Once again, I don't understand this comparison to Hofstra. Pride, although not a great name I will admit, at least has a concrete connection to the university's history. Spirit doesn't. They're really two completely different things you're comparing. How does "Pride" have a concrete connection to North Dakota any more so than it does for Hofstra, Kentucky, USC, or Michigan? I'd argue that UND's recent "Spirit Campaign" gives that more of a connection to the school than "Pride" does. Both are horribly abstract, however, although I guess some folks like that.I actually hope the school goes with "Pride" though. For years we've been told how offensive it is when other fans chant "Sioux suck" and that's part of the reason why the former name needed to go. Then we can sit back and enjoy the popcorn while opponents have fun with the new nickname. I won't hold my breath for people demanding a change though when the first gay slur chant starts rolling thru an opponent's student section during a game... You misunderstood what I was saying. The comparison that had been made was that "Spirit" for UND reminded him of "Pride" for Hofstra. When I said "Pride" has a concrete connection to the university's history, I was referring to Hofstra, not UND. The school's logo has featured lions for a good amount of time now, and when they changed from Flying Dutchmen to Pride, they did not want to completely shed any reference to their tradition/history. You wouldn't have been hard pressed to find lion imagery on the campus prior to the name change. There is not a strong piece of imagery you can point to that makes "Spirit" a sensible name for UND athletics. It's fine if they want to go in another direction and make Spirit a new thing. I just don't want people to think Hofstra's name is as lame as it is. Pride actually made some modicum of sense for Hofstra, not to mention the use of the word in other contexts during the Flying Dutchmen era.