29texan

Not sure if it's been done (or if I already asked?) but you think you guys can remodel this 1994 Fort Worth Cavalry logo? Just curious to see what it would look like if the old Arena Football team was still around.

The colors were actually Navy and Vegas Gold, not what you see here.

Thanks.

I don't see the Yankees uniform you are referring to, but my pick would have to be this:

I actually like these to be honest.

The Stars could make a modernized version of that with their logo/colors as their third.

Basket Racing?

Europe.

I'm sure someone can accomplish this better than I did but I wanted to give it a shot anyway.

*sigh*

If only they were allowed to bring it back...

Good job!

No really, I wanna see what someone can do with this one:

You do realize that TCU would absolutely dominate the AAC with little to no competition...

You know... I don't get it.

TCU already spent about 15 years outside of a "major conference" and was pretty much dominant in the WAC, C-USA, and Mountain West. The program has been built to prove that they belong to be on a bigger stage. In just the 3rd year of being in the Big XII (which we were denied when the conference originally formed back in the mid 90s) we've already won at least a share of the conference title and just this close to being one of the final four.

Putting TCU back in those kinds of conferences would be a huge step BACKWARDS, so what's up with this?

^^^^^

The problem is no team can pull chrome off right.

You sure about that...?

I think the Saints actually pull off the "toilet seat" collars.

Maybe because it's New Orleans and all...

Hey man. Awesome job on these fields and I know how you feel about Photobucket (I can't update my signature since that website corrupts my images).

Anyway, I've found over the last couple of years fan-made Super Bowl logos in response to the current, corporate logo system the NFL actually has. I have fan-made ones for Super Bowls 45, 48 and 49 (I had one of 46 but the flash drive containing it got corrupted and I never encountered a good 47 logo).

Could you please superimpose this logo I found for SB XLV in place of the actual logo, just to see what could have been? Thanks!

Sure. I've seen this logo before and I'm using it somewhere on my computer, not sure where though.

Speaking of other logos, one of the best alternate logos I've seen has come from logoroy on this site on this thread: http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/97090-super-bowl-xlix-logo-concept/

This would be a great actual logo for the game, and I was going to use it in one of my XLIX fields for what I would like to see for the game.

*sigh*

This is just way too creative, thoughtful, and even fun for Goodell.

The first Super Bowl that WE hosted... and they give us this lazy ass field and start the corporate cookie-cutter logo with us.

smh.

Not to mention the damn seating debacle and that freak-ass winter storm the week of the game. That was a disaster for Dallas, but they'll get another chance to host one; the NFL would be foolish not to at least give AT&T Stadium another shot.

And having everything spread out might have been an issue as well.

Just Dallas and Fort Worth should have everything (with the game in Arlington, of course).

Dallas gets the NFC with half the events and Ft. Worth gets the AFC with the other half of the events.

Super Bowl XLV: February 6, 2011 - Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, Texas

Pittsburgh Steelers - 25 Green Bay Packers - 31

The first of the fields with the templated logos. They were too lazy to change the paint around the numbers, and the Super Bowl logo just looked washed out. Also, for the first time since Super Bowl VI, the home endzone was on the right side of the field. I'm guessing this is because in this stadium that is where the home endzone normally is, but in later years they just began alternating the endzones again regardless of which endzone was the home endzone for the stadium.

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The first Super Bowl that WE hosted... and they give us this lazy ass field and start the corporate cookie-cutter logo with us.

smh.

I'm kinda surprised no one has asked for this one yet...

Super Bowl XXXVIII: February 1, 2004 - Reliant Stadium, Houston, Texas

Carolina Panthers - 29 New England Patriots - 32

This Super Bowl to me fells like the beginning of the end for good looking fields. From this point on the fields begin to degrade, as the helmets go, then at least some interesting endzone designs go after Super Bowl XLI, then of course we get to Super Bowl XLV, which puts the fields on life support, and finally the field for Super Bowl XLVIII just kills it.

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The Super Bowl logo for this was pretty cool, giving the whole space vibe since the Super Bowl was in Houston.

It's a shame the Astrodome never got a Super Bowl, because I think it could've supported at least one Super Bowl since it was, at one point deemed the "8th Wonder of the World".

... you know, I never really thought of that before. The Astrodome was around the first time Houston hosted.

Why was it at Rice?

It's laughable ideas like this that ruin this thread for the rest if us.

Oh, I'm sorry then.

Perhaps I should ask permission next time before I post anything here....

Biloxi will never have a major sports team. Ever. But ditto with Fort Worth. Not a chance. North Texas is not a 2-team market.

Why have the Jazz moved to Las Vegas yet the A's and Rays remain when they're in markets or situations of uncertainty and the Jazz are just fine where they're at? Did you really put any thought into any of this? And an NBA team in St. Louis, if that were to even happen, would use "St. Louis", not "Missouri".

... you put waaaay too much thought into a POINTLESS Realignment thread.

Damn.

Again, this is just personal preference, not some definitive statement on what each of those leagues WILL look like in 2024.

You REALLY think that a Fort Worth NBA team is even feasible? Dallas hardly even supported the Mavericks until Cuban came along.

I knew this was coming...

First off, do you really think THIS is the thread, titled "The Pointless Realignment Thread", for that question?

Second, I said "according to simply what I would want to see...

Third, you know what, yeah, I do one day see Fort Worth with at least an NBA team. It wont be any time soon. It more than likely wont even be a decade from now. But maybe one day if this city. DFW isn't that far away from the entire Bay Area in terms of market size, you know.

Big Four leagues by 2024 (according to simply what I would want to see...)

* = expansion team

NFL

(32 teams)

NFC

- North

• Chicago Bears
• Detroit Lions
• Green Bay Packers
• Minnesota Vikings

- East

• Dallas Cowboys
• New York Giants
• Philadelphia Eagles
• Washington ["p.c. friendly" nickname]

- South

• Atlanta Falcons
• Carolina Panthers
• New Orleans Saints
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers

- West

• Arizona Cardinals
• Los Angeles Rams
• San Francisco 49ers
• Seattle Seahawks

AFC

- North

• Baltimore Ravens
• Cincinnati Bengals
• Cleveland Browns
• Pittsburgh Steelers

- East

• Buffalo Bills
• Indianapolis Colts
• New England Patriots
• New York Jets

- South

• Houston Texans
• Miami Dolphins
• San Antonio Defenders (formerly Jacksonville Jaguars)
• Tennessee Titans

- West

• Denver Broncos
• Kansas City Chiefs
• Oakland Raiders
• San Diego Chargers

NBA

(32 teams)

Eastern

- Atlantic

• Boston Celtics
• Brooklyn Nets
• Charlotte Hornets
• Miami Heat
• New York Knicks
• Orlando Magic
• Philadelphia 76ers
• Washington Federals

- Central

• Atlanta Hawks
• Chicago Bulls
• Cleveland Cavaliers
• Detroit Pistons
• Indiana Pacers
• Memphis Grizzlies
• Milwaukee Bucks
• Toronto Huskies

Western

- Midwest

• Dallas Mavericks
• Denver Nuggets
• Fort Worth Outlaws (formerly New Orleans Pelicans)
• Houston Rockets
• Minnesota Timberwolves
• *Missouri Flyers (St. Louis)
• Oklahoma City Thunder
• San Antonio Spurs

- Pacific

• Las Vegas Jazz
• Los Angeles Clippers
• Los Angeles Lakers
• Portland Trail Blazers
• Phoenix Suns
• Sacramento Kings
• San Francisco Warriors
• *Seattle Supersonics

MLB

(32 teams)

A.L.

- North

• Chicago White Sox
• Cleveland Indians
• Detroit Tigers
• Minnesota Twins

- East

• Baltimore Oriels
• Boston Red Sox
• New York Yankees
• Toronto Blue Jays

- South

• *Carolina Cougars
• Kansas City Royals
• Tampa Bay Rays
• Texas Rangers

- West

• Los Angeles Angels
• Oakland A's
• San Diego Padres
• Seattle Mariners

N.L.

- North

• Chicago Cups
• Cincinnati Reds
• Milwaukee Brewers
• St. Louis Cardinals

- East

• *Montreal Expos
• New York Mets
• Philadelphia Phillies
• Pittsburgh Pirates

- South

• Atlanta Braves
• Houston Astros
• Miami Marlins
• Washington Nationals

- West

• Arizona Diamondbacks
• Colorado Rockies
• Los Angeles Dodgers
• San Francisco Giants

NHL

(32 teams)

Atlantic

• Boston Bruins
• Buffalo Sabres
• Detroit Red Wings
• Montreal Canadiens
• Ottawa Senators
• Quebec Nordiques (formerly Florida Panthers)
• Tampa Bay Lightning
• Toronto Maple Leafs

Metro

• Brooklyn Islanders
• Carolina Hurricanes
• Columbus Blue Jackets
• New Jersey Devils
• New York Rangers
• Philadelphia Flyers
• Pittsburgh Penguins
• Washington Capitals

Central

• Chicago Blackhawks
• Dallas Stars
• Houston Coyotes
• *Kansas City Scouts
• Minnesota Wild
• Nashville Predators
• St. Louis Blues
• Winnipeg Jets

Pacific

• Anaheim Ducks
• Calgary Flames
• Colorado Avalanche
• Edmonton Oilers
• Los Angeles Kings
• San Jose Sharks
• *Seattle Emeralds
• Vancouver Canucks

Super Bowl XXX: January 28, 1996. Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, Arizona

Dallas Cowboys - 27 Pittsburgh Steelers - 17

I've got Super Bowl XXX on VHS (it was painful to watch) so I was able to perfect the helmets.

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*sigh*

Greetings everyone. I was wondering. I just created my "dream conference" style of "super-conferences". For instance:

ACC (16)

ACC North: Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Louisville, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech

ACC South: Duke, North Carolina, North Carolina St., Wake Forest, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida St., Miami

B1G (16)

B1G East: Penn St., Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern

B1G West: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas St., Iowa St., Missouri

SEC (16)

SEC East: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, West Virginia, Cincinnati

SEC West: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi St., Arkansas, Texas A&M, Baylor

Pac-16 (16)

Pac-16 Northwest: Washington, Washington St., Oregon, Oregon St., California, Stanford, UCLA, USC

Pac-16 Southeast: Arizona, Arizona St., Colorado, Utah, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St.

AAC (16)

AAC East: UConn, East Carolina, South Florida, Temple, Central Florida, Army, Navy, UMass

AAC West: Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, UAB, Southern Miss, Rice

MAC (16)

MAC East: Buffalo, Akron, Kent St., Ohio, Miami (Oh.), Marshall, Old Dominion, UNC-Charlotte

MAC West: Toledo, Ball St., Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Bowling Green, Western Kentucky

C-USA (16)

C-USA East: FAU, FIU, Middle Tennessee, Appalachian St., Georgia Southern, Georgia St., Arkansas St.

C-USA West: Louisiana Tech, North Texas, UTSA, ULL, ULM, Texas St., Troy, South Alabama

MW (16)

MW East: UTEP, New Mexico, New Mexico St., Air Force, Colorado St., Wyoming, Utah St., BYU

MW West: Idaho, Boise St., Nevada, UNLV, Fresno St., San Diego St., San Jose St., Hawaii.

Your thoughts guys?

I had something similar to this last year:

• The PAC 16, B1G, SEC, and ACC are the "Big Four", each with 16 schools. The remaining schools in the other conferences see this and know that they'd have to do something to try to compete. So the C-USA, American, MAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and the Independents all form 4 conferences of 16 teams themselves.
• The American Athletic Conference decides to become somewhat of a mini-NFL, creating one 2 conference league with 16 teams and 4 divisions. Of course, the NCAA rejected the idea, so instead, the AAC split into two conferences to represent the east and west. This would spawn the U.S. Athletic Conferences (E.U.S.A.C & W.U.S.A.C.) taking what is in the AAC and some of the remaining schools. The Mountain West basically becomes the W.U.S.A.C. and C-USA mostly making up the E.U.S.A.C.
• With a few FCS schools moving up, it made it possible for the Sun Belt and MAC to have 16 schools in the conference as well. The MAC became the "Rust Belt Conference", as an opposite to the Sun Belt.
• At the time, the College Football Playoff was expanded to 6 schools with consideration of making it an 8-team playoff. Seeing how there were now 8 "Super Conferences", it made sense to have 8 teams in a playoff, but the NCAA and the conference presidents knew instantly that there would be some deserving teams left out, so instead of 8, the powers that be decided to bite the bullet and make it a full 16 team playoff. No more, no less. There are no more independent schools and each conference has a title game.
• The playoffs are set to where the conference winner will play one of the selected 8 teams in the first round (technically the playoffs start with the conference championship games, but I digress) and it's still set up to where one side of the bracket features the #1 seed while the other side features #2.
• The First Round takes place at the home field of the top seed. The 2nd round takes place in 2 selected neutral fields, both sites hosting 2 games each. The Final Four would take place in 2 of the rotating bowl games that is now being used for the current format. The playoffs begin the 2nd week of December.

B1G

- West // Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Kansas, Kansas St.

- East // Purdue, Indiana, Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St., Rutgers, Maryland

SEC

- West // Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St., Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, TCU

- East // Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mizzou, UCF

ACC

- Atlantic // Clemson, FSU., N.C. State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Wake Forest, WVU

- Coastal // B.C., V-Tech, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pitt

PAC 16

- West // Cal, Stanford, Washington, Washington St., Oregon, Oregon St., UCLA, USC

- East // Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Ok. St., Utah

E.U.S.A.C

- Eastern // UConn, ECU, WKU, Navy, Ohio, USF, Cincinatti, Army

- Central // Iowa St., Rice, Houston, SMU, Tulane, LTU, Tulsa, Memphis

W.U.S.A.C.

- Mountain // Baylor, UTEP, UTSA, Utah St., Wyomming, Colorado St., Air Force, BYU

- Pacific // Boise St., Idaho, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno St, SDSU, Hawaii, SJSU

Sun Belt

- East // Charlotte, Mid Tenn St., FIU, FAU, Georgia St., Troy, USA, Southern Miss.

- West // New Mexico, Texas St., Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas St., N. Texas, NMSU, Sam Houston St.

Rust Belt

- East // ODU, UMass, Temple, Buffalo, Appalachian St., Marshal, Kent St., Akron

- West // NDSU, NIU, Ball St., EMU, CMU, WMU, Toledo, Bowling Green

With a 16 team playoff:

OR, two different 8 team playoffs

With the Bowl games associated with it:

And how this all works:

- For the first 5 years of this system, the 7th bowl game would just be another neutral 2nd/3rd round site.

- The second time that particular bowl is used for a playoff spot, it would be the site for the National Championship game. It would continue that way for 5 years and after that, the NCG would go back to the regular bowls used for it.

- for example:

• 2015: NCG - Cotton / 7th Bowl - Indy
• 2016: NCG - Rose / 7th Bowl - Outback
• 2017: NCG - Sugar / 7th Bowl - Capital One
• 2018: NCG - Fiesta / 7th Bowl - Texas
• 2019: NCG - Orange / 7th Bowl - Holiday
• 2020: NCG - Indy
• 2021: NCG - Outback
• 2022: NCG - Capital One
• 2023: NCG - Texas
• 2024: NCG - Holiday
• 2025: NCG - Chick-Fil-A / 7th Bowl - Indy
• 2026: NCG - Alamo / 7th Bowl - Outback

And so on...

Regular Season scheduling would require each school to play:

- All 7 schools in their respective division

- One school within the conference in the other division

- At least 2 (4, max) schools in other conferences (at least one from the "Major 4" and at least one from the "Minor 4")

Fort Worth had an Arena Football team.... for a year.

But still, to commemorate 20 years of their very, VERY brief existence, I'd like to see your take on the Fort Worth Cavalry's very plain, clipart like logo.

Their colors were Navy and Gold

So, whenever you can, whenever you're free, you think you could take a swing at this one? I'd appreciate it.

Army Black Knights

If I never saw this before, I'd think that would be a great NEW logo for any team.

Good job.

Ok.... FBS Realignment v2

Realignment is finished... for now. But when it picks back up, what NEEDS to happen is to just have 8 conferences with 16 teams. I know this idea has been thrown out before, but this is my interpretation. This is what I see happening:

• The Big XII breaks up... So, that leaves 10 schools up for grabs.
• Those 8 of those 10 Big XII shools are grabbed by 4 of the surviving conferences. The PAC 12 gains 16 by taking Texas, T-Tech, OU and Oklahoma St. The ACC takes West Virginia to join up with former Big East rivals, also beefing the number up to 16. The Big Ten gets their 16 by adding both Kansas schools. And the SEC, choosing one more Texas school, takes TCU. This leaves out Baylor and Iowa St.
• The PAC 16, B1G, SEC, and ACC are the "Big Four", each with 16 schools. The remaining schools in the other conferences see this and know that they'd have to do something to try to compete. So the C-USA, American, MAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and the Independents all form 4 conferences of 16 teams themselves.
• The American Athletic Conference decides to become somewhat of a mini-NFL, creating one 2 conference league with 16 teams and 4 divisions. Of course, the NCAA rejected the idea, so instead, the AAC split into two conferences to represent the east and west. This would spawn the U.S. Athletic Conferences (E.U.S.A.C & W.U.S.A.C.) taking what is in the AAC and some of the remaining schools. The Mountain West basically becomes the W.U.S.A.C. and C-USA mostly making up the E.U.S.A.C.
• With a few FCS schools moving up, it made it possible for the Sun Belt and MAC to have 16 schools in the conference as well. The MAC became the "Rust Belt Conference", as an opposite to the Sun Belt.
• At the time, the College Football Playoff was expanded to 6 schools with consideration of making it an 8-team playoff. Seeing how there were now 8 "Super Conferences", it made sense to have 8 teams in a playoff, but the NCAA and the conference presidents knew instantly that there would be some deserving teams left out, so instead of 8, the powers that be decided to bite the bullet and make it a full 16 team playoff. No more, no less. There are no more independent schools and each conference has a title game.
• The playoffs are set to where the conference winner will play one of the selected 8 teams in the first round (technically the playoffs start with the conference championship games, but I digress) and it's still set up to where one side of the bracket features the #1 seed while the other side features #2.
• The First Round takes place at the home field of the top seed. The 2nd round takes place in 2 selected neutral fields, both sites hosting 2 games each. The Final Four would take place in 2 of the rotating bowl games that is now being used for the current format. The playoffs begin the 2nd week of December.

Here are the conferences and the playoff set-up.

B1G
- West // Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Kansas, Kansas St.
- East // Purdue, Indiana, Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St., Rutgers, Maryland

SEC
- West // Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss St., Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, TCU
- East // Florida, Georgia, S. Carolina, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mizzou, UCF

ACC
- Atlantic // Clemson, FSU., N.C. State, Louisville, Notre Dame, Syracuse, Wake Forest, WVU
- Coastal // B.C., V-Tech, Duke, UNC, Miami, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Pitt

PAC 16
- North // Cal, Stanford, Washington, Washington St., Oregon, Oregon St., Utah, Colorado
- South // USC, UCLA, Arizona, ASU, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Ok. St.

E.U.S.A.C
- Eastern // UConn, ECU, WKU, Navy, Ohio, USF, Cincinatti, Army
- Central // Baylor, Rice, Houston, SMU, Tulane, LTU, Tulsa, Memphis

W.U.S.A.C.
- Mountain // Iowa St., UTEP, UTSA, New Mexico, Wyomming, Colorado St., Air Force, BYU
- Pacific // Boise St., Idaho, UNLV, Nevada, Fresno St, SDSU, Hawaii, Utah St.

Sun Belt
- East // Charlotte, Mid Tenn St., FIU, FAU, Georgia St., Troy, USA, Southern Miss.
- West // SJSU, Texas St., Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas St., N. Texas, NMSU, Sam Houston St.

Rust Belt
- East // ODU, UMass, Temple, Buffalo, Appalachian St., Marshal, Kent St., Akron
- West // NDSU, NIU, Ball St., EMU, CMU, WMU, Toledo, Bowling Green

Not sure if I had the green light to do this, but I got one of the Browns one's done

And THIS is what the Browns should do in 2015...

(but not put it on the helmet like some people think)

throwing this one out there if for any reason we can get it uploaded to the mothership in the CHL section.

better view of how the logo should look.

Damn this takes me back...