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2 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

You're a moderator on a sports logo website. More people would think you're ****ing nuts than anyone attending a high school game. 

Yes I am and if people like you who live and die with 16 year olds playing football think I'm ing nuts, I'm fine with it. What would concern me more is if you weirdos didn't think I'm ing nuts.

10 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

If the USFL MO is that they are relying g on their historical identities, what's the logic behind a team named the Canton Anythings?

Name them the Canton Bulls, use the Jacksonville Bulls  uniforms and logos, hire Brian Sipe to walk around the sidelines or something so there's a "local connection" and call it a day.

9 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

So you just choose to ignore it then. So be it. But don't act like it isn't a thing. Would fans in Hilliard fans cheer for a team named the Wolverines?

Yes, I choose to ignore it because it's really ing weird. Something being "a thing" doesn't legitimize it or make it any less crazy. Outside of parents and maybe relatives who have kids on the team, people who live and die with the performance of 16 year olds have serious issues.

With regard to Hilliard fans cheering for a team called the Wolverines, the only ones who would give a flying about the name of a high school team are the lunatics you seem to be defending. The type of person who goes that far with sports has way bigger issues than some high school team that shares its name with a college rival. Seriously, does this stuff make sense in your head before you post it? I ask because out here in reality, it sounds pretty silly.

9 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

Canton is a very small city. The fact it's even discussed as having a team is because USFL was desperate and didn't even give them their own team. This talk of them naming the team "Canton" or "Ohio" is probably not happening. They play there because it's cheap and it's available.

So your argument is putting a team where a stadium is cheap, available, and actually draws a crowd once in a while is a desperate move. Yeah, it makes much more sense for a team called the New jersey Generals to play their home games in Canton, Ohio. That aside, I couldn't care less about Canton getting its own USFL team. All I said was "if this happens they have to call them the Bulldogs" and I was 96% joking when I said it.

9 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

Small cities identify much more to their schools identity than a big city where most major pro teams reside.

No, they really don't. I live in a small city. The most popular football team in this city isn't either of the High School teams (one public, one parochial), the most popular football team here is by far and away the Cleveland Browns, followed by the Ohio State Buckeyes, Pittsburgh Steelers, and as much as it pains me to say it, Michigan Wolverines. The Catholic school here is a perennial Division VI powerhouse. People are happy for them, but that's about as far as it goes. In fact, the crowds for their games are usually around 60% capacity. Sometimes less. And capacity is around 2900.

9 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

I've been on the field for USFL games there this past season. You think throwing that out there legitimized your point or something?

Nope. You mentioned the stadium like it would be some foreign concept to me. I simply pointed out that I'd been there. I mentioned the games because I wanted to point out that I've never been to a High School game there. That's it.

Did you think throwing out that you've been on the field for a USFL game legitimized your point or something? I've been on the field or in the press box for MLB games, NFL Games, NCAA football games, the NCAA Basketball Tournament, Minor League Baseball and Hockey, and more high school games than I can remember.  I've seen more adults act like ass-holes at High School games than anyone should ever be subjected to which leads me to my final point.

I still stand by what I said about High School football.

50 minutes ago, Sykotyk said:

Welcome to Ohio. Canton-Massillon is probably the most notable rivalry in high school football in the country.

 

https://massillontigers.com/history/massillon-vs-canton-mckinley/history-of-the-rivalry/

 

Also, the fact that the Maulers are playing where McKinley plays their games, and have for many decades, which is right next to the high school.

Dude, I live in Ohio. Paul Brown was born in the town where I lived until I was 16. I lived down the street from two of his nephews. Trust me, I know all about the Canton-Massillon rivalry. I've been to the stadium.*  I saw Go Tigers! and everything. I stand by what I said about high school football.

*I went to the USFL Championship Game last year and I've been to two HOF games there. I live about 90 minutes from Canton

1 minute ago, Sykotyk said:

As mentioned, Canton McKinley High School, the only public high school now in Canton (Timken combined with McKinley a few years ago), are nicknamed the Bulldogs. And honestlly, though Cantonites might enjoy the team having that nickname, good luck getting Massillon, North Canton, Plains Twp, Jackson Twp, or Perry Twp fans to show up and cheer for 'Bulldogs'.

 

Edit: Also, the high school team started in 1894.

If people are that into high school football, they have much bigger problems than the name of a USFL team.

On 7/14/2023 at 8:51 AM, dont care said:

Alittle late this year aren’t we?

Had to account for the 90 minutes we had hope back in April.

BREAKING: The Cleveland Browns have been eliminated from the race for the playoffs.

1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

Because if they are the Bulldogs and aren't wearing marron and white, it won't be the Bulldogs to most fans in Canton. 

The Canton Bulldogs ceased to exist in 1927. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say there probably aren't many Bulldogs fans left in Canton.

On 7/9/2023 at 2:46 PM, GDAWG said:

does Canton finally get a team of their own?

 

If this happens, they have to be the Canton Bulldogs, right?

2 hours ago, Marcos Flamengo said:

And those who were fired from the NYT's sports department will be integrated into the Athletic?

Probably not.

9 hours ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

They must immediately get that stuff right out of their bodies, right?

4 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

I definitely have thoughts, none of which I can share by means of language that is appropriate for this forum.

Try it in Esperanto.

8 hours ago, LMU said:

due to a contract dispute with Major League Eating

Please tell me there's a Walmart Electric Cart Division in Major League Eating.

2 hours ago, tigers said:

Nice deflection.

Deflection from what? Which part of what I said wasn't true?

13 hours ago, tigers said:

 

Hence my he could make a motza.
You don't have to be a one horse pony on an oval track to make money in NASCAR, ask Marcus Ambrose.

 

How well have Will Power and the other Southern Hemisphere drivers done in Indy and on ovals as well.

Sam Hornish made money in NASCAR. Ain't no one out there saying he was a great Cup driver.

11 hours ago, tigers said:

 

He aint no one horse show.
Loads of talent, he could make a motza in the US driving NASCAR.

Let's see how he does at Atlanta this week before we declare him to be the next Dale Earnhardt. Wait, that's right, he's not running Atlanta this week. Look, I'm as impressed as anyone by SVG's performance in Chicago. It was really fun to watch, but we need to tap the brakes on this guy being the next big thing. Ask Marcos Ambrose about the differences between winning on road courses in a Cup car and winning on an oval track. Wait, that's right, he never won on an oval track.

I'd love to see SVG take a shot at running Cup full time, but until then, he's just a road course ringer who kicked everyone's ass on a road course.

29 minutes ago, Marcos Flamengo said:

I think no one would be scared if this one happen

Didn't you say don't be scared?

On 7/1/2023 at 6:12 PM, Marcos Flamengo said:

Don't be surprised much less be scared if DAZN makes an aggressive move to take over Canadian national NHL broadcasting rights from Rogers starting in the 2026/2027 season.

1 hour ago, CDCLT said:

As for "disregarding their old fanbase" - yes, NASCAR is trying to branch out. But this time, it seems to be working, at least, better than their attempts in the 90s and 2000s.

Is it really working this time? How many of these "new fans" from yesterday do you think will be tuning in for Atlanta next week? Even if some of them do, they won't last 20 minutes watching actual NASCAR instead of F1: Sedan Circuit.

1 hour ago, gosioux76 said:

As much as some of you might want NASCAR to stick to what it's good at, what was once America's fastest-growing sport feels like it's regressing. Recognizing that, it makes sense to try to latch onto to some of the appeal of F1 — which, with Netflix's help, has succeeded in attracting non-motorsports fans like myself onto racing. 

Assuming you're referring to the boom of the 90's, it was unsustainable because it was way more of a fad than actual growth. Ideally, NASCAR would have realized that retaining 25% of those new fans would been a huge win and used it to continue growing the sport at a sustainable pace.  Instead, when the bubble inevitably burst, NASCAR panicked and started desperately chasing gimmicks in hopes of getting back to the level of the 90's boom. Each failure has resulted in more desperation and here we are. Had the sport stuck to what it's good at, it wouldn't be in the position it's currently in - which is not gaining many new fans while simultaneously losing core fans. F1: Sedan Circuit is not the solution to that problem. NASCAR's best bet going forward is to be NASCAR. The culture of the sport is what caused the 90's boom in the first place. Lean into that culture. Rednecks, while not fashionable, are still plentiful and their dollars are worth the same amount that David and Karen's from Barrington Hills dollars are. Maybe it's time to stop driving the rednecks away.

4 minutes ago, Glover said:

Yesterday's race wasn't great, but I generally love the road course races. They're some of the tracks I look forward to most each season. But I am a Chris Buescher fan, so that definitely helps since he is usually competitive in these races. 

So you're the one.

On 7/1/2023 at 6:12 PM, Marcos Flamengo said:

Don't be surprised much less be scared if DAZN makes an aggressive move to take over Canadian national NHL broadcasting rights from Rogers starting in the 2026/2027 season.

Why would anyone be scared of this?

53 minutes ago, dont care said:

I will say he was the only one that could pass today. He is incredibly talented. Still was a wreck fest

The moves he made were impressive as hell. Dude made Haley look like a rookie when he passed him for first. This cat can flat out drive. It was really cool to see, but I don't think it's exactly the flex NASCAR social media is making it out to be. He made full time Cup drivers look like fools. I can't imagine anyone in F1 would be celebrating like this  if Kyle Busch won in his first ever attempt at one of their races. Great story and fun to watch, but I also think it made NASCAR look a little silly.

And a ringer wins the race. Perfect.

On 7/1/2023 at 12:00 AM, See Red said:

I used to be a big proponent of more road courses in NASCAR until it actually happened and now they make a giant mess of every one I've watched since then. 

Every time a new road course is added to the schedule, my reaction is "I'll be free all day on that Sunday."  Just my opinion, but NASCAR on road courses sucks. I honestly think the only reason NASCAR fans still tolerate Watkins Glen and Sonoma is because they've been on the schedule for so long. Earlier in the thread, someone said that the Chicago gimmick aimed at trying to get suburban elitists to watch a redneck sport street race has gotten the most interest in NASCAR since Indianapolis in '94.  Sure, maybe as a sideshow, but once they've seen the sideshow, they're done. The reality is that the race with the most interest among actual NASCAR fans was easily the return of North Wilkesboro - a mile and a third oval track. And it's not even close. NASCAR needs to stick to what it's good at and it's good at four left turns.

8 hours ago, dont care said:

Why nascar was so hell bent on this when you have a legitimate track where you can actually race on an hour out of the city. 

Because when people who don't give a flying about NASCAR say that more road courses would make them more interested in the sport, NASCAR actually believes them.  All the years of racing at the Chicagoland didn't make Chicago a NASCAR hot bed, but now a gimmicky street race is going to do the trick? Please. This is entire thing has been an exercise in stupidity.