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I remember when I was a kid how I had to settle for buying team t-shirts with my lawn cutting money before I could afford to buy jerseys.

I'm pretty confident that if legit jersey cost only $50, that the $25-$30 fakes would still sell.

Yep, just as good as the real deal

i've also downloaded a few albums in my life, and downloaded a movie that i just as well could have rented...

I've thought about this a couple times before. Does it make someone a hypocrite to download music while chastising someone for buying a knockoff jerseys?

Short answer: No!

Long answer: Musician, both on major and independent levels, make the vast majority of the money from things other than music sales. They get so little money from stuff sold in stores or online. Merchandise sales, record sales at shows, and shows themselves bring in far more money. Hell, I know of several musicians/bands that tell their fans to download and if they want to help out the band, buy merch/tickets.

Do designers have the ability to go on tour and sell merch/tickets to make money? No.

I have a question. Do designers make royalties for the number of jerseys sold? And I so does it vary from company to company?

Designers are paid for their work. From that point, the team owns all the rights to the logo/jersey/wordmark.

So because the designer doesn't make royalties so it's ok to buy knockoffs?

Uhh, when did he say that?

And to contribute to the thread, I'm not really sure how I feel about fakes. I mean I personally wouldn't wear one but i also don't wear jerseys anyways, that's just me. If people want to walk around looking ridiculous then more power to them. I always laugh when I see a fake because they look so bad, I don't even have to be familiar with the team or even the sport for that matter to be able to spot a fake jersey from a mile away.

I lean towards the belief that the people who buy fakes for the most part wouldn't pay 250 for a real one if the option to buy a fake didn't exist at all, so the NFL isn't losing out on too much profit. I mean the people who search google for "cheap nfl jersey website" probably wouldn't in a million years fork out hundreds for a jersey if that was their only option for a jersey.

Possibly, but they could have used the money the spent on a fake to by a licensed t-shirt, sweatshirt, etc... from nfl.com or any licensed retailer.

So are the Coyotes finally dead, or is the NHL going to do this again?

Regardless of how you rationalize it, you are still participating in IP theft.

In what sense are you "collecting jerseys" if you're buying knockoffs? It's not a collection... it's a facsimile. It would be a like my showing off my awesome baseball card collection by printing:

Would it be dumb of me to spend $100K of my hard earned money for a piece of ink and cardboard? Yeah, you could make that argument... and it would be perfectly reasonable. Collecting as a hobby is a bit ridiculous when you think about it logically. The value of collecting, though, is in getting something that is difficult to find. If you have a stockpile of fake jerseys (or self-printed baseball cards) you're not a collector... you're a poser.

Sweet Mantle card! I looks just like the real thing and I bet it was cheaper too!

Central Michigan's 2007 MAC Champions Ring

I'll be in the People's Republic next Sunday, and I'm kinda looking forward to seeing how much fake gear is for sale near popular tourist destinations, and how much (if any) is being worn by the native Chinese, since in a lot of areas the younger generation tends to lean toward western fashions.

Pictures please!

Word on le twitteur that Colisee management just cleared out every event from September through December.

Keep in mind what day this is.

-but I hope its a good sign-

That stung bro

Though I think WCW's failure is more associated with the version in the thread's first post. This one, to me anyway, is associated more with the company's rise then fall.

I know, I know, I was a WCW guy during the Monday Night Wars.

Fat Lindros in a Flyers jersey he never wore at a charity alumni game.

Just noticed the Dallas helmet.

Also the material on the Bruins' crest and the Captian's C looks off.

Has anyone posted Gretzky on the racers?

Legend in the wrong helmet!

Also, it looks like his Jackets jersey has they crappy patches too.

Still doesnt explain the missing jock tag

He could have removed it, as I do with all of mine.

It's also possible his stash of Isles jerseys comes from NHL Shop's one-day $13 glitch last season.

Thats what I was thinking. I took advantage of that sale too and removed the jock tags, however my Isles jersey do not have the R on them.

I saw a guy walking around my school wearing a Penguins Crosby jersey. The yellow on the arm was a different shade then the yellow on the sides. How do people not notice this crap?

They notice. But they obviously don't care.

My biggest issue is when people use the excuse "well players move around so much these days I can't justify forking over $150 (replica) for a player who won't be here next year." That may be true, but that is why they sell blanks...and there are deals to be had on those! On amazon I got a premier CBJ third jersey for $60 and a premier CBJ away jersey for $40 during the lockout. They are both old stock with the old Reebok symbol, but are straight from Reebok and legit.

And it wasn't just because of the lockout, two days ago Winnipeg Jets premiers were on sale on amazon for $60.

I just bought a BNWT Wayne Simmonds home black Kings jersey on ebay for $10! I indend to spend 20 minutes on it with a thread ripper and have a jersey identical to the ones sold at NHL.com.

It is very easy to get a jersey (legally) on the cheap.

I did the same thing with a Carter Flyers jersey and easily turned a Carter Jackets jersey into a Jack Johnson jersey.

Seems legit

Nope!

The striping is way off, the name and number is way too big and even from that crappy pick you can see that its not the proper twill material on the wavy back numbers. Also, the fonts are off.

Here is a real one for comparison:

Jesus, look at what FansEdge is selling for $500.

From what I've read about Modano (and his tweets) if you see a fake with his signature, the signature is a fake too (Same for Gretzky).

Apparently, athletes are being educated on how to spot fakes and are being told the financial ramifications about signing them.

LOL and what are those ramifications ? nothing will happen to anyone about anything

They don't get paid their royalties on non-licensed products

So assuming $45 in 2001 (which seems a bit low), 11 years of inflation it's about $60 which isn't that far from the $74.99 they were before last year.

I think thats low cause Champion replica NBA jerseys were $40 in the early 90s cause I remember buying Shaq's rookie jersey for that in 1993.

What items outside of electronics are the same prive they wete 12 years ago? Things can't stay the same price forever, inflection alone drives the price up but so does gas prices which have doubled since 2001, the cost of materials (cotton, poly, etc) which has gone up astronomically in the last couple years, the cost of doing business with the NFL has gone up too. Should companies just eat those increases?

Many people don't think about the added costs of production over the last 15 years, and many that do, don't care (or don't like it/don't understand it) and want companies to eat the cost.

Wow I stand corrected. I got a direct tweet from Mike Modano saying he signed that piece of crap.

I tweeted him a pic of the jersey and here is the response:

I responded by asking "Why its an obvious counterfeit" I'll let you guys know what response (if any) I get.

Jesus, look at what FansEdge is selling for $500.

From what I've read about Modano (and his tweets) if you see a fake with his signature, the signature is a fake too (Same for Gretzky).

Apparently, athletes are being educated on how to spot fakes and are being told the financial ramifications about signing them.

Patches are a bit of a nebulous area as far as fakery goes, right? Because it's pretty obvious that these patches for uniforms worn 10 or 20 years ago are "unlicensed reproductions", but at the same time, it's not like the NHL or any other league is in the standalone retro patch business.

I got my patches form river city sports in Winnipeg.

The Penguins jersey and the patches can be bought individually. That is how I got mine.

Modano wore #39 for his first few games with Minnesota