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  1. For those that are debating buying a $30-$40 knock off or the $100 replica jersey I will put it to you like this.

    The quality of the material on the knock offs are just as good if not better than the replica. Nike makes all of their products in third world countries just like the bootleggers but unlike the bootleggers they have a high overhead to cover with licensing, advertising, and endorsement deals. Also, while you can tell a knock off from an authentic upon close inspection you can spot the "cheap" replica a mile away.

    I LOL'd

    If I'm not mistaken I'm thinking this guy is on here just to promote that site that he is likely employed by, or runs himself. If they are of higher quality than the licensed ones then why on earth not charge more? It is better product after all no? I'm also pretty sure you don't need close inspection to see that the colour of a jersey is incorrect, or that the logo is 10 times to big.

    first, i'm discussing about the topic here with everybody .second, i didnt refer that the knockoffs are of higher quality than the licened ones , i mean they are nearly the same if you check my message carefully .

    Then you have zero knowledge about quality or IP theft.

    I'm really starting to believe that this guy is Loooooooooooooooooooooooooogodude.

    That would make sense given the timing and the devotion to this issue. But I am getting a different vibe. This guy almost seems to have a vested interest, whereas Logodude just had to keep talking about it and bringing up silly side arguments.

    What about the fact that this guy's account was opened the day after looooooooogodud was banned?

  2. For those that are debating buying a $30-$40 knock off or the $100 replica jersey I will put it to you like this.

    The quality of the material on the knock offs are just as good if not better than the replica. Nike makes all of their products in third world countries just like the bootleggers but unlike the bootleggers they have a high overhead to cover with licensing, advertising, and endorsement deals. Also, while you can tell a knock off from an authentic upon close inspection you can spot the "cheap" replica a mile away.

    I LOL'd

    If I'm not mistaken I'm thinking this guy is on here just to promote that site that he is likely employed by, or runs himself. If they are of higher quality than the licensed ones then why on earth not charge more? It is better product after all no? I'm also pretty sure you don't need close inspection to see that the colour of a jersey is incorrect, or that the logo is 10 times to big.

    first, i'm discussing about the topic here with everybody .second, i didnt refer that the knockoffs are of higher quality than the licened ones , i mean they are nearly the same if you check my message carefully .

    Then you have zero knowledge about quality or IP theft.

  3. And a fantastic article about knockoffs by Jeff at LeafsHQ

    http://leafshq.com/2012/06/29/your-fake-jersey-is-awful/

    Best part of that article:

    But I cant afford a real jersey!

    This is an awful argument.

    First off nobodys forcing you to buy a jersey. Owning hockey jerseys is an optional additional support of your team, not a requirement.

    Secondarily, if you look around, its not hard to get a deal. I have a collection that would have people questioning my sanity, yet the most expensive item in my collection cost me $90. Sites like eBay and Craigslist are gold mines if you dont mind buying used. Stores have clearance sales all the time, especially in the summer. Dont mind getting a traded player? Youre golden! Those hit fire sales. The Schenn jersey used in this article was purchased for less than a fake, brand new, at RealSports Apparel after the trade.

    Even if youre too good to wear used or a former player, or hunt for sales, theres still better options. By a t-shirt or a sweater for ~$30 and still support the team on the front, the player on the back, and not do it in a way that looks ugly and supports uglier business.

    Besides, almost anybody I know who uses this argument (anecdotal evidence, I know), tends to have stacks of these knockoffs. Wouldnt having 1 or 2 legitimate jerseys be better? The idea of having a collection of them is a new concept anyway, its not like youll be wearing them on a daily basis (if youre most people).

    Lastly, buying a fake is far from a frugal option, seeing as they have absolutely zero resale value. While you lose a ton of value on a new jersey just by wearing it, youll still get a solid chunk back throwing it on eBay. If you buy one used and sell it again later, odds are youll get your money back. A fake? Good luck selling it.

    Im not harming anyone by buying these fakes!

    Not quite. Knockoff jerseys are usually made in your stereotypical horror-story, near-zero wage sweatshops, right next to your fake shoes and other counterfeit goods. Adding more fun to the equation, the ones making these jerseys and often the ones selling them are frequently involved in organized crime. Thats never fun.

    Youre also directly siphoning money from the league by not getting licensed gear. This isnt a big deal if youre buying Leafs stuff, because heaven knows the Leafs have enough money, but you see people wearing knockoff Coyotes, Devils, Islanders, and other suffering teams gear and it suddenly makes sense why these teams are in bad shape. They could at least be slightly better without it.

    You also take away from local business by importing these straight from China but thats a different can of worms all together.

    In Conclusion?

    When push comes to shove, a $50 jersey thats just like the real thing seems like a deal thats too good to be true. Thats because it is when you look at the small details, the quality of the gear youre purchasing is several steps down from a legitimate product even if youre getting the replica instead of the pro authentic. In fact, the replica is usually the smarter option for the average consumer, not needing the on ice hockey technology that the authentic adds. The fakes, though? Theyre shoddy, cheap, and lazy efforts by shady people trying to make a buck off of others success. If you cant afford a new, in store jersey, youre best suited either waiting for a sale, going second hand, or getting other merchandise all together. Or perhaps just sticking it out with what you have doesnt everyone in the city already have a drawer of this stuff?

    At the end of the day, I must admit that it doesnt matter that much. Youre still showing off your fandom of your team. But the concept of it being a pro authentic at full retail or a knockoff, with no middle ground, cheaper way, or alternative to a jersey is more than a little odd, and the thought that what youre getting is spot on is even more so. By all means, if you still feel knockoffs to make sense, all power to you. But its not as cut and dry as its made out to be.

    A special thank you to Real Sports Apparel for supplying the Clarke MacArthur pro authentic jersey used in this comparison. Check them out for your Leafs gear needs located outside of the Air Canada Centre in Maple Leaf Square, or their website at RealSports.ca

  4. So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

    I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

    Just give it a few pages. Soon we'll have the Coyotes faithful in here demanding proof for our "ludicrous" claims that Glendale is literally selling itself to keep this team.

    This will be because they would not have read the past ten pages (that contain such proof) because they "couldn't bring themselves to read pages of totally not fact-based Coyotes bashing." :rolleyes:

    You're just jealous that the Coyotes had a better season than the Leafs! :P

    or

    Why do you hate Shane Doan? :P

    or

    Its a Phoenix thing, you wouldn't understand! :P

  5. A question.. what would happen if the NHL decide all of a sudden to let the Coyotes move to Quebec City before this coming NHL Draft?? Will the Nordiques names and jersey (practice jersey of the old Nords logo??) be used asap? or is it too damn late to get all set up fast? That i wonder.. got an odd feeling it might happen soon (but I could be mistaken on this... )

    Probably what they did with Winnipeg last year:

    Mark+Scheifele+2011+NHL+Entry+Draft+Round+Q549HhukVzgl.jpg

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