charger77

I doubt that's a counterfeit. Just looks like a misprinted fashion jersey, to me. The NHL has sold that generic jersey in previous years.

Actually, if the logo was right side up, it would look like the ones they sell at Target or Meijer.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Looks good to me!

Soon:

I was at Sabres/Wings last week and I would say at least 60% of all Reebok jerseys there (Buffalo and Detroit) were highly noticable fakes, some I had my doubts about (could have been bad customization jobs. I did not notice a single CCM or Koho fake FWIW (Buffalo and Detroit).

What apparently happened to get him in the gold and green is hardly what it appears to be. An oldtimers game in Minnesota had been set up, a few years after Orr retired from hockey. It featured former North Stars players versus NHL alumni, and as the story goes, the Minnesota side was short a few players, so Orr decided to don the Minny colours to even the teams up.

(far left)

I'll raise you Brett Hull on the Flames

I see your Flames and call:

Wayne Gretzky, Phoenix Roadrunners (IHL)

Whats the story on this one?

Your prize for winning the Wayne Gretzky Fantasy Camp Tournament:

Any images of Maverick rings?

One guy was wearing a Ryne Sandberg jersey and it looked pretty good, the only way you could tell I was a fake was the MLB logo on the back was off, and also they don't sell current jerseys with retired players' names.

Maybe I'm wrong on this, but couldn't he have gotten a custom current jersey with SANDBERG on it? I mean I'm not saying it wasn't a fake, but I don't think that's evidence of it being a fake.

True, there are a lot of fans here in Michigan with RBK Edge Wings jersey with Howe #9 on it.

For the record, I believe it costs RBK $8 to produce NFL replicas, which they sell for ~$35 to the retailers.

Not to be a dick but so?

I'm sure the NFL Alumni Association would complain.

I know the point of the thread is anti-counterfeit jerseys, but let's be real: is a player really going to refuse to sign a jersey just because the letters are not in the correct font, or the word mark is crooked, or there are some loose strings?

Many players will not sign fakes. Also, many of them have licensing agreements with companies that will not allow them to do so either.

I've seen an interview with Wayne Gretzky where he said if you ever saw a fake with his sig on it that the sig is fake too.

So a comparison that may not have been the best one over the course of 73 pages justifies IP theft?

I'm sure these Chinese sweat shops are paying the exact same wages and benefits that the legit companies use and they're also using union labor and creating American jobs right?

I remember they days when I wanted something I couldn't afford... I'd either save up for it or not buy it. Different times I guess.

I am positive that the wavy material used on the 35 is the wrong material.

That's the easiest way to spot counterfeits. If they have shiny numbering/lettering, they're fake. The actual twill material used for jerseys is expensive, so they counterfeiters can't use it and sell them for so cheap, that's why they use a lesser quality material, which is usually shiny.

Also the fakes rarely if ever use the zig zag stitching.

I am positive that the wavy material used on the 35 is the wrong material.

Way, way back I promised to post pictures of my Durant China counterfeit. After a long wait, here they are. They main reason that I bought this China counterfeit is because I can't find any Kevin Durant Sonics gear from any legitimate sales.

Sure, there are some obvious flaws, most notably the orange piping around the neck instead of yellow, but for $28, I'm happy with what I got.

Yeah, that's not bad at all. First of all that orange looks more goldish to me, and I wouldn't have even noticed much of a color difference if you didn't say anything.

I think that jersey looks great. For $28, you surely came out on top here.

The wavy material on the 35 is a giveaway too.

That ain't one of em.

Both, that is not a Montreal road jersey.

For reference:

Then it sounds like the fakes must be pretty good to get past the leagues' own watchdogs.

I actually know an eBay employees that does it. He told me that for every counterfit posting they remove 3 more pop up in its place. Also, a large percentage of the fakes on eBay are so bad that they go unsold and the leaguse focus on the source as opposed to individual postings of items.

EDIT: It's also standard practice to warn people they're clicking on a PDF.

Not to be a smart ass but why? I have never heard that before, are they prone to viruses?

And yes, if the NFL wants to protect its IP, it should actually protect its IP. It's what major corporations do, and it seems like hiring eBay monitors would be well within the scope of the NFL's or Reebok's normal IP protection processes. But I don't know; I don't work in IP protection.

Actually, the Main 4 leagues, plus NASCAR and the NCAA do this. eBay has people that do this as well.

I like the use of "its an economic issue" to justify IP theft, especially in an on-line community populated by designers and logo/uniform fans.

For me its a legal issue, first off its the duty of the Federal government to:

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Also "At this point, I think it's incumbent on the NFL to react to the secondhand market"? Why is it the duty of the person or party that is the victim in this situation to prevent the wrong doing? (Should iPhones and Plasma TVs be cheaper because people want to steal them.) As a similiar example, many people think that NFL tickets are too expensive, however at the first sight of a fake ticket a person is not getting into a game why is that practice not tolerated, but fake jereys etc... are?

Creative America

Petition to Congress on this matter