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  1. 1 hour ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

     

    By the way, in case you didn't know it, I'll mention that fans storming the field after a championship was the norm at that time.

     

    [1969 World Series clinching video]

     

    [1973 NLCS clinching video]

     

    I've seen the Mets 1969 World Series winning video before, but if you're gonna do a compare and contrast of Yankees and Mets fans, the argument would be a little bit stronger if we didn't have videos of Yankees and Mets fans doing the exact same thing in response to a championship (World Series or LCS). It's not lost on me that, for Yankee fans of that generation, a 12-year stretch of no success at all could culminate with that kind of ecstasy after winning a back-and-forth series in the 9th inning of the decisive game...you don't need to explain Yankee history to me, I'm extremely familiar with it...but if you lament the Yankee fanbase as having more loutish people today compared to in the '60s and '70s..."norm at the time" to describe massive field storming doesn't really cut it for me. It's one thing you never see today, probably due to far more advanced security measures but I'm also going to assume "security measures" existed in 1976 too.

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  2. 9 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

    I retired from following current baseball after 1996, when the Yankees were nice enough to play me out with a championship. So I watched the Yankees' resurgence after that as an outsider. And what became clear to me was that the nature of Yankee fans had altered radically. While Yankee fans of my generation were arrogantly haughty, the Yankee fans of the latter generation were just loutish.

     

     

     

    Definitely the reaction of cultured students of baseball to storm the field and make running the bases to finish a pennant-winning walk off home run completely impossible.

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  3. LA Chargers vs. Las Vegas (f--k you Chargers)

     

    Minnesota vs. Cincinnati

    Pittsburgh vs. Indianapolis

    Denver vs. Detroit

     

    NY Giants vs. New Orleans

    Chicago vs. Cleveland

    Atlanta vs. Carolina

    Tampa Bay vs. Green Bay

    NY Jets vs. Miami

    Kansas City vs. New England

    Houston vs. Tennessee

    San Francisco vs. Arizona

    Washington vs. LA Rams

    Dallas vs. Buffalo

    Baltimore vs. Jacksonville

     

    Philadelphia vs. Seattle

  4. 1 hour ago, Sport said:

     

    It would've given Ben Roethlisberger an off-screen death, which is what he deserved, but getting his head kicked in in his last game was good too. 

     

    I wanted the tie for that reason, but mostly because it was such an unlikely outcome and the whole prisoner's dilemma thing was discussed all week that it would've been a fun historical curio. Whenever they do playoff scenario discussions there's always the scenario like "Team X will make it if Team A wins unless Teams B and C tie" and in the back of everyone's minds we always go "psh they're not gonna tie", but in this case it came so close to happening! It would've been cool for a game to end with both teams celebrating. 

     

    There was also the aspect where the Chargers kept doing things to keep the tie alive to begin with. They were down 15 points late in the 4th quarter. Get one touchdown - get a stop - convert countless 4th downs including (if I'm not mistaken) a 4th down to score the second touchdown as regulation expired, and then converting the 2PC after that, then both teams trading field goals in OT (Chargers again converting at least one 4th down in the process, IIRC), before culminating the way it did...like, that game could've ended earlier if the Raiders made any number of 4th down stops previously, including some 4th-and-very-longs, and they couldn't do it. It was patently absurd.

  5. Week 14 results:

     

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    Week 14 winner: @infrared41 the only person able to reach double digits this week.

     

    Week 15 schedule:

     

    LA Chargers vs. Las Vegas

     

    Minnesota vs. Cincinnati

    Pittsburgh vs. Indianapolis

    Denver vs. Detroit

     

    NY Giants vs. New Orleans

    Chicago vs. Cleveland

    Atlanta vs. Carolina

    Tampa Bay vs. Green Bay

    NY Jets vs. Miami

    Kansas City vs. New England

    Houston vs. Tennessee

    San Francisco vs. Arizona

    Washington vs. LA Rams

    Dallas vs. Buffalo

    Baltimore vs. Jacksonville

     

    Philadelphia vs. Seattle

  6. 24 minutes ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

    Did defenders punch at the ball as much in like the 90s and before? I feel like DBs punching away at the ball in a receiver or RBs hands is something you see on nearly every possession, but I don't remember it being as much of a thing when I was growing up.

     

    It's probably called the Peanut Punch for a reason...I dunno if Charles Tillman created it, but he definitely perfected the art of it and brought it into the mainstream.

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  7. 2 hours ago, Cujo said:

    I've never understood Atlanta's decision to suck the life out of their identity in 1990

     

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    That reason is Jerry Glanville. He became the Falcons head coach in 1990 and, well, type his name into Google Images and find a picture where he's not wearing a black shirt. 

     

    Falcons another team that tragically plays indoors...there are way too many indoor NFL teams today and unfortunately that number is really only growing. Indoor football is artificial crap compared to outdoor football.

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  8. New England vs. Pittsburgh

     

    Houston vs. NY Jets

    LA Rams vs. Baltimore

    Carolina vs. New Orleans

    Indianapolis vs. Cincinnati

    Tampa Bay vs. Atlanta

    Jacksonville vs. Cleveland

    Detroit vs. Chicago

    Seattle vs. San Francisco

    Minnesota vs. Las Vegas

    Denver vs. LA Chargers

    Buffalo vs. Kansas City

    Philadelphia vs. Dallas

     

    Green Bay vs. NY Giants

    Tennessee vs. Miami

  9. On 12/5/2023 at 2:36 PM, DG_ThenNowForever said:

     

    Reffing has been bad forever, but I feel like the quality of everything took a nosedive in the COVID years.

     

    Our expectations of professionalism are down across the board everywhere, and it doesn't seem to matter that much.

     

    (I am now a boomer)

     

    Let me put it like this:

     

    The head commentator for CBS on officiating matters is Gene Steratore. For NBC, it's Terry McAuley, and for ESPN it's John Parry.

     

    All those hires happened before the 2018 or 2019 seasons. Three of the more highly thought of referees in the NFL, and they left in that space of time for television, and that's not including other long-time referees who retired towards the end of the 2010s (a list which includes Ed Hochuli and Walt Anderson). Consider that there are 17 referees (and their crew, of course), it's a pretty exclusive club to be in at a given time, and there was massive turnover during that time.

     

    Let me put it another way...

     

    Here's your 2017 NFL officiating crews.

     

    Here's your 2023 officiating crews.

     

    Common names on both lists: Brad Allen, John Hussey, Clete Blakeman, Carl Cheffers, Ron Torbert, Bill Vinovich, Craig Wrolstad

     

    I don't know how this compares to more historical standards, I don't have that amount of time or interest to research it, but that's only seven (7) referees from 2017 who are still referees in 2023. In the six seasons since 2017, 58% of referees have left the position.

     

    Now, obviously referees aren't the only on-field officials, and often times referees get blamed for flags that they have nothing to do with...the areas of the field referees are chiefly responsible for are anything behind the line of scrimmage and up to it, and maybe a few yards beyond it depending on where the flow of the play goes. Referees rarely have responsibility towards calling pass interference, for example, and I also don't know how the turnover rate of other officials compares during this time period or the impact it's had. In any case, referees do have the responsibility of managing the game and the players, staying on top of the operations, and all that kind of stuff, there's a lot of leadership involved in handling such a capacity, and having 58% turnover in the last six years seems like a lot of turnover to handle.

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  10. Week 13 results:

     

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    Week 13 winner: @logo-maker

     

    Week 14 schedule:

     

    New England vs. Pittsburgh

     

    Houston vs. NY Jets

    LA Rams vs. Baltimore

    Carolina vs. New Orleans

    Indianapolis vs. Cincinnati

    Tampa Bay vs. Atlanta

    Jacksonville vs. Cleveland

    Detroit vs. Chicago

    Seattle vs. San Francisco

    Minnesota vs. Las Vegas

    Denver vs. LA Chargers

    Buffalo vs. Kansas City

    Philadelphia vs. Dallas

     

    Green Bay vs. NY Giants

    Tennessee vs. Miami

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  11. 39 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

     

    More proof that Cox was a better central character to the show than J.D. ever was. He was funnier, had more character development, and could carry a dramatic scene far better.

     

    The three best characters on that show were Dr. Cox, Dr. Kelso, and Dr. Jan Itor. You can rank them in any order you want from there, but that's the top three.

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  12. 9 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

    It sucks that Florida State got screwed but I can't lie, I'm looking forward to Alabama curb stomping Michigan.

     

    There is something extremely amusing about Michigan, the #1 seed, being "rewarded" by facing Ala-fricken'-bama as their first opponent. 

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  13. Seattle vs. Dallas

     

    Indianapolis vs. Tennessee

    Atlanta vs. NY Jets

    Detroit vs. New Orleans

    Denver vs. Houston

    LA Chargers vs. New England

    Arizona vs. Pittsburgh

    Miami vs. Washington

    Carolina vs. Tampa Bay

    San Francisco vs. Philadelphia

    Cleveland vs. LA Rams

    Kansas City vs. Green Bay

     

    Cincinnati vs. Jacksonville

  14. 16 hours ago, Cujo said:

    The Hunt family seeing headdress black/redface boy getting a full week of media attention and massive far-right support

     

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    I mean, I'm relatively certain the Hunt family - like most ownership groups in North American sports - are right wing, so they probably don't mind that.

     

    But it does get to an annoyance I have in situations like this where SJW's and self-important progressives get so far ahead of themselves that they jump the gun on a story, run a hit piece without all the facts, and then look like absolute morons once the whole story emerges. "Boy who cried wolf" and all that crap. It's going to make it that much harder to legitimately fight this stuff the next time when something potentially more legitimate happens because people will just point back to this story.

     

    When I saw Deadspin had published this article, I figured there were two possible people behind it, one being Julie DiCaro, or maybe the other person being the guy who tweeted something like "only white people can get away with this" about the Charissa Thompson story a couple weeks ago...it turned it I was right and it was the second person who did this story. People like that have no idea how much they themselves are racist. And, because this is the United States, we can't have a story like this be met with proper condemnation across non-political lines; this story's backlash must be a win for far right nutters and a failure for the radical left...Christ I hate this :censored:ing country.

  15. Week 12 results:

     

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    Week 12 winner(s): @DustDevil61 and @Maroon with lucky #13 wins.

     

    Week 13:

     

    Seattle vs. Dallas

     

    Indianapolis vs. Tennessee

    Atlanta vs. NY Jets

    Detroit vs. New Orleans

    Denver vs. Houston

    LA Chargers vs. New England

    Arizona vs. Pittsburgh

    Miami vs. Washington

    Carolina vs. Tampa Bay

    San Francisco vs. Philadelphia

    Cleveland vs. LA Rams

    Kansas City vs. Green Bay

     

    Cincinnati vs. Jacksonville

  16. 1 hour ago, Dynasty said:

    CBS is using the Eagles' throwback logo for their scorebug, just like how it was on NBC. Weird, it seems like Philadelphia has been the only team getting that treatment, as others have worn throwbacks, but have not had their throwback logos used by networks.

     

    I wonder if any chance that can be attributed to being a 4:25 national game for the Eagles today (and obviously a SNF game previously) and getting a little more attention to detail than a 1:00/4:05 regional game would get. For one quick example, when the Dolphins wore Week 8 throwbacks, CBS used the regular Dolphins logo.

     

     

    My thought is only applicable to CBS, because NBC used the Eagles throwback logo earlier this season but didn't do the same when the Patriots wore throwbacks during a SNF game in Week 2 (also didn't use the throwback Giants logo when they wore throwbacks either). I'll have to take a look at the CBS schedule to see if they've had any other 4:25 games this year where the featured game involved one of the teams wearing throwbacks.

  17. Green Bay vs. Detroit

    Washington vs. Dallas

    San Francisco vs. Seattle

     

    Miami vs. NY Jets

     

    Tampa Bay vs. Indianapolis

    New England vs. NY Giants

    Pittsburgh vs. Cincinnati

    Carolina vs. Tennessee

    Jacksonville vs. Houston

    New Orleans vs. Atlanta

    LA Rams vs. Arizona

    Cleveland vs. Denver

    Buffalo vs. Philadelphia

    Kansas City vs. Las Vegas

    Baltimore vs. LA Chargers

     

    Chicago vs. Minnesota

  18. 19 minutes ago, See Red said:

    Hard to believe how talent-poor, undisciplined, and terribly-coached this Florida team was.  I was hopeful when Napier was hired because he seemed to get it, and he does seem to with recruiting (except the recruiting can't overcome the losing anymore).  It's just the on-field product is so terrible.  This was a winnable game that we pissed away with poor discipline and lousy coaching, just like the last three games.  Now we just play the waiting game until he's fired after next season and do it all over again.  Please dear god fire Stricklin first, though.

     

    This post couldn't be more accurate if you tried. Florida hired a Mississippi State-level AD and that AD turned the football program into a Mississippi State-level program. Napier is a dead man walking, he's absolutely incompetent and overmatched trying to coach in the SEC. Stricklin's gotten two head coaching hires with the football program, and in terms of getting the program back where it's expected to be on a consistent basis, he's 0/2 with those hires. To say nothing about the collapse of the basketball program or the women's sports scandals. Firing Napier does nothing if you let someone who's proven to be incompetent at hiring head coaches get the chance to make another hire. It has to be a package deal. There's no good argument for Stricklin to wake up tomorrow still employed as the Florida AD. He's the AD who's seen the program have three consecutive 7-loss seasons under his watch. 

     

    Fire Stricklin, fire Napier, fire everybody involved with University of Florida football in general. The entire program needs a deep pressure washing if there's any chance of getting rid of the rancid stench that has overwhelmed it. 

  19. I would simplify the arm striping pattern moving forward, but the more I see the Bruins road uniforms for this year, the more I'm actually liking them. Definitely would've said they looked plain to be originally and they may not be as good as their usual road uniform, but on their own these are perfectly good.

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