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TheOldRoman

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  1. In a quest to use every color combination possible, the White Sox wore royal blue and white in 1969 and 1970. They missed the red the Cubs use, but it was still horribly inappropriate to take a primary color associated with an in-town rival, without at very least using a noticeably different secondary color.
  2. I hope so, but I fear that died with George. In the past few years, we've seen the Yankees wear BP caps during games, wearing red hats with stars and stripes on the logo and wearing jerseys with camouflage numbers. George would have told the league to blow it out their asses and paid whatever fine they gave him.
  3. The UA chest logo is bad. It's HORRIBLE. There's no excusing it. It doesn't matter if they do it at college. It looks bad and it's awful for the major leagues. The fact that "it happens elsewhere" is not reason enough to pretend it looks decent. The NFL, which has effectively whored itself out better than any other league, has refused to allow manufacturer logos on the fronts. And it would at least be a more natural place on a football jersey, by a seam instead of just awkwardly placed in the middle of the chest. Also, you'll notice that the single color logo gets lost against the Yankees pinstripes. I'm guessing that against pinstripes, the logo will have a colored outline to make it stand out. It'll probably just be a white outline on the Yankees jersey, maybe silver on the White Sox'.
  4. The marketing team is a bunch of dopes. They said they want to emphasize "the Sox brand." Apparently, they felt that people would see a Chicago jersey in black and gray, with a white sock on the sleeve, and assume it was a Cubs jersey. "Our primary logo doesn't appear anywhere on the road jersey." So? The only team with an iconic look who features their primary mark on the roads is the Cardinals, and that's dumb of them. Basically, their marketing team is a bunch of George Constanzas, and every two or three years the high-ups catch them tossing pencils into the drop ceiling and ask, "What the hell have you guys been doing for the last year?" So, they did something like this, backed by no sound reasoning or evidence it would improve the brand. Just as stupid, the next year they suddenly changed the road pants to piping after 20 seasons, despite the fact that it drops a unique element (in which the team won a world championship) and creates an awful mismatch with the jersey.
  5. I agree, and at the risk of being attacked by a mob, I don't particularly care for either the Yankees or Tigers home uniforms. Bother are iconic and should never be changed, but if either were an expansion team starting fresh, I'd consider the designs and the lack of a tertiary color underwhelming.
  6. Yep. When the Jays switched to the neoclassic set, I wished they moved the patch to the sleeve. It would probably work well on the sleeve and be more natural on the sleeve. However, it works on the body specifically because it's the Blue Jays and it's what they did for several years in which they were great, including two titles. If any other team tried to do it, it would look awful.
  7. I don't think it's really that popular on this board. I made that mistake a while back, commenting on how there were so many people who inexplicably loved that set. Then, after talking it through with others, we determined that like 99% of the posts in favor of that set were from Infrared.
  8. Had anybody seen this year's 5950s (without the NE logo) go on clearance yet online? I want to buy a few Sox hats as back ups and just wear these until I die. I won't be too enthused about buying caps with the manufacturer logo, and even with the Sox slowly chipping away at and destroying their aesthetics, they haven't messed with the hat yet. If the Sox can give me another 40-50 years out of the current logo, I'll be good.
  9. The purple Ravens pants were incredible, and would look great with the white jerseys. The gold stripe *made* them, and they would have looked worse with just black stripes. I really liked the look of the gold numbers, also, but I don't think they should change to those because it wouldn't look right paired with the white pants.
  10. The Red Sox were the first team to add gold for opening day in 2005 (and again in '08, I think). The Cardinals did it in 2007. Prototype jerseys were made for the White Sox in 2006 with gold replacing the silver outlines, but they were never worn.
  11. No, the pitch of the upper deck is the same as before. It's also no more steep than any of the other parks built in the '90s. There are two key reasons it looked or seemed so steep. First, in pretty much all the new parks, you enter the upper deck somewhere in the middle of the section vertically. You come out of the tunnel, then you either go up or down to the seats. For whatever reason, they built the concourse at the bottom of the UD, so you have to walk up to every seat. Also, the lower deck is smaller than in other parks of the '90s, and those extra seats were moved to the upper deck (reportedly to move the suites closer to the field). The original park had roughly the same capacity as OPCY had those seats in the lower deck instead of the gigantic upper deck. It was quite daunting coming out of the tunnel and looking up at something like 45 rows of seats, and it made it seem a lot steeper than it actually was. Regardless, I agree that the new roof is like night-and-day from the original one. It's a nice park. They've done all they could have with the original park. It's not PNC, but it's a nice place to see a ballgame.
  12. The outfield walls at US Cellular were switched to black with blue and designs in 2003 for the All Star Game. Then in 2004, they switched them to green and showed the retired numbers in on the wall in left center. They started replacing the blue seats in 2005, when they redid the entire upper deck and mezzanine deck. The lower deck seats weren't replaced until 2006. The rumor for why the park was blue is that team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf grew up a Dodgers fan in Brooklyn. However, it seems like parks back then just had ugly, random colors for the seats. That was the time where Kauffman stadium had cardinal red seats. Either way, one of the changes Oriole Park brought was to make everybody realize that the parks look better with seats in more natural colors. Everybody went green in the decade afterwards, and I think PNC was the first park to use dark blue seats.
  13. Yes, but those were the thick, woven stripes like the Yankees use, if I'm not mistaken.
  14. No. I'm in favor of the Padres going brown and yellow, but you have to use brown *very* delicately to avoid it bein garish. Pinstripes are fine in black, navy, or royal blue. Brown pinstripes are taking it too far. Plus, with modern printing of thin stripes instead of thick, knit stripes like the Yankees use, they'd look black from any distance.
  15. Thought - was this the first time that two alternate jerseys were worn in the same World Series game? Not counting the Marlins wearing their sleeveless alternates in 1997. I'm thinking it is, baring maybe some Pirates foolishness in '79.
  16. So, the Cubs are wearing their horrendous alternates against the Indians' navy alternates. The :censored:ing World Series is looking like a spring training game. Good job, you guys.
  17. The Cubs' blue alts are some of the worst in baseball. Like you said, they look like BP jerseys (and are basically the exact BP jersey the team has worn for the last 20 year). My biggest issue is that the logo is so, so awful. It's an absolute garbage logo, and it's used in place of their iconic primary. There's nothing wrong with their primary logo. They need to use it more. It's akin to the Red Sox coming out with an alternate jersey with the socks on the chest, taking the place of other iconic marks, except their sock logo is merely underwhelming and not awful. Put the primary logo on the chest and throw some kind of striping/piping on it. And they really should replace the alt logo with something more similar to the ones they wore in the '60s though '95. And yes, the road grays are bad, but not "I can't believe a franchise that's 140 years old is wearing this crap" bad. Go to something similar to what they wore in the '60s, make a blue alt with the primary logo, and wear it no more than once a week. As for the Indians, their uniforms were perfect in the '90s. Thanks to the admiral, I now notice that the C in Cleveland was too small, and I can't unsee that. However, the set was great other than that. The Indians, like the Marlins, should turn the clocks back to 1995 and take the batteries out. It's good that the Indians found their way back to a respectable look after the awful silver era and the slightly less bad era which followed. But their homes and alts are still worse versions of the '90s set. Just go back to that and admit you made a mistake.
  18. I don't know if the pants are made by Ripon or not. The Packers normal game pants have had the sublimated stripe insert amidst the dazzle material since at least the second year of Nike. The Cowboy do the same thing - sublimated insert with the rest shiny.
  19. Speaking of Next Level Talk, has a message board taken its place? I was on Jersey Talk (or something like that), then followed the mass to NLT when that shut down, but then I forgot about that site and it was gone when I visited again.
  20. Maybe not that season, but their jerseys had Wilson logos the season before. So I would assume the Wilson-produced jerseys originally had Wilson branding, but it was taken off and covered with Reebok logos.
  21. That makes sense, but at least from the pictures posted, the players with the thicker font are all wearing Reebok. I wonder if they ripped off the Wilson logos and sewed the Reebok logos on.
  22. I remember noticing it at the time. In retrospect, one of the first signs I'd end up on this board. I have no idea why it happened, but it's a shame they switched from the thick font, which the Jaguars used up until their Nike-gasm. Like the great Champion font, this isn't for every team. But it's a great, unique way to do a standard block font. I wish one or two teams would have used that over the last decade instead of coming up with an awful, contrived custom font. And I also wish the Bengals and Bills could bring back the Champion font and wear it forever.
  23. Maybe, but the pants also look 1,000x better with white, making braiser stripes. Literally 1,000x better. So, since no team would return 100% to an old look in this day and age, they might as well find a way to work white into the blue jerseys. I think they'd look great either 1) keeping their current shoulder slash things, in white and yellow, in lieu of the horns; or 2) keep the horns yellow and make the numbers white.
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