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  1. I disagree. I really like the standard MLB block, but it doesn't work for all teams. Particularly, it doesn't look right when it's in single color (although it's greatly improved by teams going with the wider version, which is essentially a same-colored outline). The Dodgers need to switch to the thicker version. Anyway, I think that the standard block in single color gets lost on the Yankees jersey. Their varsity block is bolder and a much better choice, particularly with no names competing for space on the back of the jerseys.
  2. Pairing yellow pants with a white helmet takes this from being pretty good for a modern uniform to looking like a high school team.
  3. Literally every uniform they wore prior to 2007 was better than this. They finally went back to the correct color (for about 6 games a year), but let's not get carried away. These still suck.
  4. Not sure what you're arguing here, but what city do the X-Boxes play in?
  5. The Jaguars could have uniforms as simple as the Raiders provided they were actually good. The Raiders have a great design. They have helmets with stripes matching their pants. The home jersey is in in their primary color and the white jersey has a secondary color outline. The Jaguars primary jerseys are completely devoid of their primary color (or at least their former primary color which is great, unique, and which the fans have been clamoring for). They are also devoid of their tertiary color. And also any stripes other than the thick cuff which shows up on some jerseys and the nonsensical color block on the back of the legs. Same with the road jerseys - just white with black. And they don't even have helmets in the unique primary color to offset it. So, the Jags could go simpler than their classic inaugural set, sure. They could make good jerseys which incorporate all their of their colors, keeping a unique and bold combo. But instead, they said "give me Penn State, but in black."
  6. Yeah like I said, I think that jersey is wrong for the Orioles considering that's the Giants' thing. But I still think it's the best look the Orioles have had. Using that piping on the current homes and replacing the crappy Maryland patch with the bird would go a long way to improving the current set.
  7. Those Padres concepts a few pages back are bad. Stay as far away from brown pinstripes as possible. Also, adding a detached yellow outline against yellow numbers is bad. Hopefully the Padres keep things simple and as close to the 1969 jerseys as possible. My favorite Orioles' jerseys are still the '90s homes. Maybe it's because that's when I started watching baseball and that's what Ripken wore when be broke the record. But the black wordmark, the headspoon piping. Just so damn good. I realize it was wrong for them to use black outlines in orange (that's a Giants thing), but to me, it still looks the best.
  8. I disagree. Much of it is "look good, play good." In high school, we cut slits into our jersey cuffs and tied shoe laces through them so we could have tight sleeves like the pros. But it goes to the pros, too. They want to look like everybody else does. I think if Nike jerked themselves off over a new elbow-length baggy template and got a few top players to buy in, it would be the standard within a few years. It's less likely to happen because there actually is a functional reason for a football jerseys to be tight. But fashion goes in cycles. Michael Jordan started wearing long shorts, then the entire NBA (along with every college and high school kid) was soon wearing longer shorts. They kept getting longer and the jerseys kept getting baggier, reaching an apex in the early 2000s when Allen Iverson took the court in shorts past his knees with jerseys 3 sizes too big. This was in the awful era or Jncos, Fubu, carpenter jeans, and wide-legged suits with long coats. The Lakers wore lakeshow throwbacks with short shorts about a decade ago, and were so embarrassed by their legs showing that they changed to longer shorts at halftime. But in the last decade, fashion in general changed to tighter clothes for men, and Nike started pushing the fitted jerseys in college for a few years before pros started buying in. Currently, the jerseys are tighter and the shorts have gotten shorter. I don't watch the NBA anymore, but I saw the Lebron James is wearing tighter shorts that stop a few inches above the knee. So maybe in a year or two, players will be mid-thigh shorts and Nike will start pushing ball-hugger shorts John Stockton as their next advancement. Anyway, while it probably isn't likely we'll see baggy football jerseys with long sleeves again, I could absolutely see it if Nike starts pushing it and gets a start player to set a trend. Particularly with wide-receivers. I could see a star wearing long sleeves in tribute to Michael Irvin or something, leading to other receivers following suit.
  9. Those weren't the alts, at least originally. They wore them for all road games when they came out in 97, but I'm pretty sure they stopped wearing them altogether some time in 98. I'm not a Pirates fan, but got that hat as a kid. I still have it. Anyway, I really like gray (and white!) caps. They have a great old-school feel. I would like to see a team go with a white at home and gray on the road, but I don't think we will see it anytime soon. I think if teams use gray or white, it should be the fulltime hat for home/road and there must be a matching helmet.
  10. Yes, I know. I was largely being rhetorical. The team makes the ultimate decision. But 1) most teams don't care enough about details to tell Nike to shove it, as the Packers and Panther did; and 2) Nike is going to default to garbage and make the teams push them to tone it down. The above horns aren't are good as the current ones. Colorado Sate used ridged horns before, and they looked okay for them. But considering the Rams have had the same horns for the last 60 years or so, I think they should keep them. Nike is going to default to change the horns just to put their mark on the team. And I think Nike will show them Angelo State's helmet to emphasize "You don't want to do what a small college already did. Let us come up with something that has never been seen before." Hopefully the Rams have enough of a sense of identity to hold strong.
  11. Fix the collars, pair those with the current throwback pants, and swap the sleeve/shoulder colors to match the throwbacks. And go with a block font. Also, I think that we should prepare ourselves for the idea that Nike is going to screw up the horns. There will still be horns, but they will do something bad like make them look more like actual ram horns. Or they'll add white accents or outlines to the horns for no damn reason. As good as that Angelo State helmet looks, there's no way Nike lets them copy a college team which copied them.
  12. See, I was thinking they meant the horns on the helmet were sacred, as that's the one thing the team has had for something like 70 years. I really like the sleeve horns, but I would be fine if they got rid of them as long as the rest of the set was great. The actual template of the StL set would be fine for me with the right colors (and a block font). In addition to the awful new Nike font, the other great thing they'll ruin will be the pants. It'll be some crap like yellow, white and blue pants to match the jersey. with a weird truncated stripe which curls around like a horn. There's no way these turn out anywhere close to as good as the throwbacks.
  13. I assume so. They didn't wear the gold pants at home after the Buccaneers loss. The all black was the home uniform, including in the NFCCG. I disagree there. The Saints haven't had a great look for maybe 30 years, when the pants stripes last matched the helmet stripes. They have had mismatched golds since Reebok took over in 2002, when the pants looked closer to champagne colored. It was particularly apparent with the black jersey and gold numbers. Their SB win came in their best possible combo at the time, but they have looked terrible since Nike took over. They lightened the gold of the helmet to "match" the jerseys and pants, which were switched to a weird beige since Nike refused to make metallic fabrics anymore. Also a product of the Nike change, they have a really awkward number font. Instead of the bold varsity block they used before, Nike created this narrow font that is reminiscent of some of the fonts Nike used on college jerseys last decade. On the front, back and sides, the current numbers look weird and not wide enough. Basically, the whole set is a mess, and the only redeeming thing is that the new Nike template finally did away with the toilet seat collars. I agree with @oldschoolvikings that their unis could be great, but it's going to take a lot of doing.
  14. If there ever was a chance of going back to the classic look, the Brewers fans screwed themselves here. From my anecdotal evidence seeing people around Milwaukee a few times and at the Wisconsin state fair last year, Brewers fans bought a whole bunch of the crappy navy BiG hats. I saw maybe 70% royal blue and 30% navy BiG, with literally nobody wearing the official primary hat. Fans I've spoken to have confirmed that's what you see at games. The Brewers' identity is a mess, with the possibility of wearing three different sets of colors on consecutive days. But as long as fans buy the throwbacks and the alts, they have no reason to change anything.
  15. I was with you until the last sentence. The Saints would have worn black jerseys with their black yoga pants, and that's before you mention the awkwardly shrunken numbers and the washed-out beige serving as gold. That is by far the worst jersey out of those four teams, and one of the worst uniforms in football. The Patriots road set is bad, but it's the Sistine chapel compared to the Saints' home set.