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  1. There are a few reasons for that template fro the helmets. First off, it's a classic football helmet look. It's what helmets "should" look like, but can't anymore because of the safety regulations. But also, these new helmets are highly branded. Much like Nike designs proprietary uniform templates in part to promote Nike, helmet manufacturers come up with the designs to be unique and instantly identifiable. Kids watching want to wear helmet X because they see it's what JJ Watt wears. Youth coaches might buy helmet Y because he sees Mahomes wearing it. One of these manufacturers could easily make a helmet which looked closer to the logo template, but then they're not instantly recognizable to the brand. Regardless, it makes more sense to me to use a classic template of what a helmet should look like, rather than a dated current helmet template which maybe 1/4 of the players wear, which would have to be changed in a few years as helmets advance and that particular helmet is no longer around. But yes, get a damn primary logo. Can't say enough about how horrible this recent Nike trend of slightly modified blockish numbers is. More than looking improperly sewn on, they look like numbers you see on the worst counterfeit jerseys. You have some counterfeits that try to replicate the font, and then you have some that look like someone applied masking tape to a t-shirt to make numbers for intramural basketball. These look like the latter.
  2. Because the current logo is literally just a Brown helmet, not a logo designed to be a replacement for the primary logo. But aside from that, I'm not arguing that the helmet logo is good as the primary for an NFL team. I want them to get a real primary which doesn't suck.
  3. Regardless, it's not a particularly good or inspired logo. It's meaningless to the Cleveland Browns. It looks like it could be a team logo from an unlicensed NES game that was used for every team with the colors changed each time.
  4. This would be the worst thing they could do, Instead of using black or red, it would be using a color-shifting red which never actually matches any color on the uniforms. This is the biggest flaw with the new Jets uniforms. It might look cool as a concept or a replica helmet for fans to buy, but it looks bad as part of a uniform.
  5. The B football is a horrendous logo. Absolutely terrible. Looks like an amateur logo that every third dude on this website makes for his fantasy team. Reasons it sucks: 1. It has a B instead of a C. A team monogram should always be the letter(s) of the city. 2. The actual rendering is terrible. The white stroke around the B is very thin, compared to the thick white space on the ends of the stripe near the football. Also, the stripes being truncated on that angle looks terrible next to the football which follows the same course, but is slightly rounded. 3. That striping pattern is irrelevant to the Cleveland Browns. Yes, they used it here and there for a few awful seasons, but their traditional striping pattern is a brown stripe surrounded by orange, which stands out for them because most teams use the darker stripe on the outside. Using that pattern would actually be meaningful to them, but still wouldn't make a good logo. It would be like the Steelers designing a logo around their sleeve stripes. You could make good arguments that they should use the elf or even the mastiff logo, but the B logo is just awful. Seriously, just come up with some kind of stylized C and call it a day. Bring back the '80s uniforms and leave the logo off of them entirely.
  6. I second all of this. What's worse than the silver in-lines is that they have big bold numbers on the jersey front below them. Having thick black numbers below the wordmark draws more attention from it and makes it almost disappear. I like that the Rockies have more or less kept things the same, other than adding alts and changing the roads. But they need to clean things up. First thing - bolder font for the wordmark. Then purple hat fulltime, home wordmark/numbers changed to purple with a thick black outline. Heck, they could even do purple letters with a black inline and a silver outline at home/white on the road. It would keep the spirit of the original look, but the black would disappear from a distance. Also, maybe experiment with slightly thicker pinstripes, because they currently look black from any distance.
  7. I disagree. I really like the standard MLB block, but it doesn't work for all teams. Particularly, it doesn't look right when it's in single color (although it's greatly improved by teams going with the wider version, which is essentially a same-colored outline). The Dodgers need to switch to the thicker version. Anyway, I think that the standard block in single color gets lost on the Yankees jersey. Their varsity block is bolder and a much better choice, particularly with no names competing for space on the back of the jerseys.
  8. Pairing yellow pants with a white helmet takes this from being pretty good for a modern uniform to looking like a high school team.
  9. Literally every uniform they wore prior to 2007 was better than this. They finally went back to the correct color (for about 6 games a year), but let's not get carried away. These still suck.
  10. Not sure what you're arguing here, but what city do the X-Boxes play in?
  11. The Jaguars could have uniforms as simple as the Raiders provided they were actually good. The Raiders have a great design. They have helmets with stripes matching their pants. The home jersey is in in their primary color and the white jersey has a secondary color outline. The Jaguars primary jerseys are completely devoid of their primary color (or at least their former primary color which is great, unique, and which the fans have been clamoring for). They are also devoid of their tertiary color. And also any stripes other than the thick cuff which shows up on some jerseys and the nonsensical color block on the back of the legs. Same with the road jerseys - just white with black. And they don't even have helmets in the unique primary color to offset it. So, the Jags could go simpler than their classic inaugural set, sure. They could make good jerseys which incorporate all their of their colors, keeping a unique and bold combo. But instead, they said "give me Penn State, but in black."
  12. Yeah like I said, I think that jersey is wrong for the Orioles considering that's the Giants' thing. But I still think it's the best look the Orioles have had. Using that piping on the current homes and replacing the crappy Maryland patch with the bird would go a long way to improving the current set.
  13. Those Padres concepts a few pages back are bad. Stay as far away from brown pinstripes as possible. Also, adding a detached yellow outline against yellow numbers is bad. Hopefully the Padres keep things simple and as close to the 1969 jerseys as possible. My favorite Orioles' jerseys are still the '90s homes. Maybe it's because that's when I started watching baseball and that's what Ripken wore when be broke the record. But the black wordmark, the headspoon piping. Just so damn good. I realize it was wrong for them to use black outlines in orange (that's a Giants thing), but to me, it still looks the best.
  14. I disagree. Much of it is "look good, play good." In high school, we cut slits into our jersey cuffs and tied shoe laces through them so we could have tight sleeves like the pros. But it goes to the pros, too. They want to look like everybody else does. I think if Nike jerked themselves off over a new elbow-length baggy template and got a few top players to buy in, it would be the standard within a few years. It's less likely to happen because there actually is a functional reason for a football jerseys to be tight. But fashion goes in cycles. Michael Jordan started wearing long shorts, then the entire NBA (along with every college and high school kid) was soon wearing longer shorts. They kept getting longer and the jerseys kept getting baggier, reaching an apex in the early 2000s when Allen Iverson took the court in shorts past his knees with jerseys 3 sizes too big. This was in the awful era or Jncos, Fubu, carpenter jeans, and wide-legged suits with long coats. The Lakers wore lakeshow throwbacks with short shorts about a decade ago, and were so embarrassed by their legs showing that they changed to longer shorts at halftime. But in the last decade, fashion in general changed to tighter clothes for men, and Nike started pushing the fitted jerseys in college for a few years before pros started buying in. Currently, the jerseys are tighter and the shorts have gotten shorter. I don't watch the NBA anymore, but I saw the Lebron James is wearing tighter shorts that stop a few inches above the knee. So maybe in a year or two, players will be mid-thigh shorts and Nike will start pushing ball-hugger shorts John Stockton as their next advancement. Anyway, while it probably isn't likely we'll see baggy football jerseys with long sleeves again, I could absolutely see it if Nike starts pushing it and gets a start player to set a trend. Particularly with wide-receivers. I could see a star wearing long sleeves in tribute to Michael Irvin or something, leading to other receivers following suit.
  15. Those weren't the alts, at least originally. They wore them for all road games when they came out in 97, but I'm pretty sure they stopped wearing them altogether some time in 98. I'm not a Pirates fan, but got that hat as a kid. I still have it. Anyway, I really like gray (and white!) caps. They have a great old-school feel. I would like to see a team go with a white at home and gray on the road, but I don't think we will see it anytime soon. I think if teams use gray or white, it should be the fulltime hat for home/road and there must be a matching helmet.