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  1. I had always heard that the finalists were Titans, Pioneers, Wolves, Blitz, and Copperheads, although I think that Copperheads may have just been a fan movement and not an actual consideration from within ownership. 


    Side note, I can't believe that they're allowed to post like a thirty-word fun fact and call it an article, but that's sorta Bleacher Report's thing I guess.

  2. 1 hour ago, Brave-Bird 08 said:

    "I also feel like the chrome facemask, while maybe not entirely original, fits really well with the Falcons' shiny chrome stadium and giant titanium bird. That said, it would look infinitely better with a silver pants option to balance it out more. "


    Spot on.


    My bad, I must have missed that portion 🤦‍♂️




  3. On 5/10/2020 at 8:44 AM, Shumway said:

    Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't think this is a top 10 jersey in the NBA right now (even with the font upgrade), let alone 27th all-time. But I guess if the team is good, they must have classic uniforms, right?




    I really like the way that the bridge is abstracted through the side panels and shorts, and the colors are great as well. Still, the team's success undoubtably pushed them higher up the list. 

  4. 3 minutes ago, Brave-Bird 08 said:

    I created a photo thread on Twitter that breaks down how many tired and failed Nike elements are in these uniforms, for those here who I know are more interested than my Twitter followers lol




    I think that the idea on "recycling" elements is a pretty interesting observation and definitely a valid one when looking at the bigger wordmark, number style, and leotard style combos, but I feel like it's a bit of a stretch to claim things like a gradient or a angular forms as reused. That'd be like saying that any team using stripes is copying them from somebody else. 


    I also feel like the chrome facemask, while maybe not entirely original, fits really well with the Falcons' shiny chrome stadium and giant titanium bird. That said, it would look infinitely better with a silver pants option to balance it out more. 

  5. 2 hours ago, Hat Boy said:

    For reasons I can't understand, Boston City Hall is the darling of the architectural set.



    I don't know anything about architecture, so the only way I judge a building is "does it look good?"  With City Hall, the answer is, "No.  No it does not."


    Brutalism is probably the most divisive style of architecture there is. Personally, I think that buildings in this style have a wide range from really cool in a science fiction sort of way to very prison-like and ugly. Boston's City Hall is probably closer to the former for me.

  6. 14 minutes ago, tron1013 said:




    It's interesting that they specifically point out all of the colors utilized for shading in these logos, it's very LA Rams-esque in the case. I wonder if they'll really use those in any other places?

  7. On 4/23/2020 at 7:49 AM, JayMac said:

    This is a genuine question in which I'd like to hear the answer:


    How can someone rank the Patriots update below the Falcons update?


    The Patriots are only a C at best. It is looking like they will have a monochrome home set and there is a another flaw or two but the Falcons set has so many gimmicks including the same monochrome problem. IMO, the Falcons worst offense (besides the gradient mess) is the large wordmark. The only redeeming quality that the new uniforms have is that there is no piping anymore. The Falcons are a D/D+ at the very best.


    I think it just depends on how much you prioritize certain elements as well as different sorts of aesthetic choices working for different teams. For example, I think that the monochrome look for the Patriots is a mistake, but I think it can work in the Falcons' case because they've adopted a more futuristic identity. 


    I mean besides...the more I look at the Falcons' new set, the more that I think that simply reducing the size of "ATL" and reworking the numerals could make elevate their set from flawed to great. The Patriots are less radical, but there are lots of little mistakes (one pair of pants, weird numbers, striping inconsistencies) that add up. I still don't know if I'd rate them lower than the Falcons, but a case could be made. 

  8. 1 hour ago, IceCap said:

    Say you have a room of five people. And you show those five people a painting. 

    Four of them dislike it. One person likes it. 


    Is the one guy who likes it getting "ganged up on"?


    Say you have a room of people, hosting some sort of Art Appreciation Club. Excited about the prospect of discussing your passion for art with others, you decide to go to a meeting. It's a bit intimidating since the group has already built a clear long-standing rapport with one another, but you're still eager to put yourself out there in the hopes of joining a community of people with similar interests. Getting the chance to contribute to the conversation, you begin to discuss a new exhibition you enjoy full of modern art, only to be quickly shot down with comments that lack in good-will or even offer a chance for response: "That's not real art", "That's thoughtless trash","Everything created past the Impressionist period is terrible", etc.  Upon being thoroughly dismissed by the group at-large, you feel isolated and unheard, eventually losing the motivation to come to any more meetings. The Art Appreciation Club loses a new voice that could contribute to a greater representation of the opinions that exist in the world, leading to the preferences of the group becoming more internally codified and the conversations growing less nuanced. Everybody loses in the end as the group's original mission of providing a common ground for all to appreciate art is lost.


    It's a difference in tone and general understanding between people, which your original metaphor neglects to mention. 

  9. 39 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

    This is exactly what I’m talking about. When you like a modern look, it feels

    like you’re fighting an uphill battle here. “Esteemed” members and mods will mock and belittle you, try to make you put to be a “swooshketeer” or a dunderhead. Look at how we treat BMA and Andrew Harrington, or anybody who has worked in the industry and tries to provide reasonings and advocate for the modern designs. This is not a good development. 


    You're getting pushback on this, but you're right.


    I am not trying to invalidate the traditionalist viewpoints by any means, but in my experience this is the perspective that is exceedingly popular amongst the board's regulars/veterans, and they often gang up on others who disagree whether it be intentional or not. Even something as simple as conceding the occasional point would make the conversations here so much more open, but that's extremely rare in my experience and it makes discussion not even feel worth the effort. Hell, it's noticeable enough to me that I often find myself going to bat for modern designs simply to try and avoid this website from feeling like a Groundhog Day version of opinions and discussion. Believe me, I don't bow down to everything SWOOSH™ 😎


    This board feels more like a sports standardization board than a sports aesthetics board a lot of the time. It didn't always feel like that. I don't think that merely suggesting that vibe being present is such a crime. That's just my opinion though.

  10. TV Numbers shouldn't be a requirement at all, as cases like the Panthers prove that they've grown obsolete. If there is ample space then use them by all means, but teams like the Patriots shouldn't be forced to choose between a logo or stripes for their sleeves just to incorporate an element like this. 

  11. 43 minutes ago, TornadoGTS said:


    While I agree with you guys, this high school is in Indianapolis so you would think someone in the organization (not necessarily the designer) would've at least recognized it and said something. Though I'm almost surprised they didn't twist it into some Nike-speak kind of thing, "This logo is inspired by our local schools, the roots of our community #RootsGrowDeep"


    4 minutes ago, DPHF said:


    I agree that it's probably just parallel thinking. It's a simple enough concept. But it's not exactly just a random high school. Cathedral is a football powerhouse in Indy. If nobody associated with the Colts had seen it, maybe they should have. 


    That's a good point, I saw that it was Indiana but didn't realize that it was within Indianapolis proper. I'd guess that the design team (who was probably based in Oregon) never saw this before since they're unfamiliar with the area, so somebody in the organization probably should've pointed it out. At the end of the day, the two can coexist fine.

  12. 1 hour ago, shaydre1019 said:

    This has been annoying me, tbh. 

    Cathedral High School didn't invent negative space logos. 

    Anyone who's ever designed logos has used negative space in some capacity.

    Are they similar? Sure, but It's not like they reinvented the wheel, also the detailed squigglies look terrible.

    I don't love the Colts alt, but it's definitely rendered better. 


    Perfectly put. I hate the term "stolen" in a case like this, because I guarantee that no designer for this project had even seen this random high school's logo before. Parallel thinking is a common phenomenon in this field, and I guarantee that's what happened here.

  13. I'm pretty confident that it's just a fun icon, the simplified heavy line-weight illustration style is pretty common in a lot of icon design. I doubt that it's an accurate representation of the new jerseys. I'd bet the only thing it really indicates for the future is a powder blue jersey with the presence of bolts in some form or another, which we all really knew before anyways. 

  14. 5 hours ago, Ridleylash said:

    I think we'd have seen the logo by now if they were that dead-set on "Krāken" as the team name. Makes me think that the holdup on the reveal is something legal...perhaps they're in negotiations for the name "Sockeyes"? 😜


    Who owns the rights to Sockeyes right now? The only thing I could see when looking into it was a fiction author in Washington.