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The ad discussion is tiresome if only because I feel confident in saying that they will never go away or be reduced. Once a new stream of revenue has been opened like that, there is no closing it. However, I'm also sure that if you asked everybody here, "Would you like to tack a random corporate logo on to your team's favorite jersey?", that the answer would be a unanimous "NO". My point being, there is nothing to discuss regarding the aesthetics of corporate advertisements on sports uniforms because nobody on this board actually prefers it to the cleaner alternative. Still, I can understand those saying that they can overlook it to an extent as a pragmatic response.

Not to play mod here, but I also feel like the off-topic discussion that is beginning here on on everybody's favorite economic philosophy should probably be shut down or moved elsewhere. 

The current Texans uniforms are fine and good, and I even understand labeling them as modern classics in the vein of the Panthers, but they lean far more into boring and generic territory for me than anything else. Will these new uniforms they roll out next season be a strong overcorrection? Almost certainly, but I hardly think this current identity is untouchable. 

Man I like the all black look in baseball, but it's really starting to feel like Nike's one idea for all of these teams. These just don't do anything for me.

1 hour ago, Sec19Row53 said:

I understand what you're saying, but the jersey itself should be an indication of who it belongs to. 

17 minutes ago, IceCap said:

You know, aside from the Cardinals logos above the nameplates. 

Yes you're both right, there's the primary logo on the back above the name and the helmets will give them the necessary context on the field. That said, I really don't think it's that crazy of an idea that these jerseys are incredibly plain and would be harder to identify without the wordmark at the very least from a retail perspective. Why it couldn't have gone in the traditional location above the number on the front is hard to say for sure, but the neckline looks a bit more cramped then it did before with this new template.

2 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

I agree. While both are stupid, the Lions wordmark is more vertical and less letters. This means it’s much larger and obvious. The Cardinals wordmark is very wide and is rendered on a smaller scale. Both stupid, but the Cardinals seems relatively harmless in comparison.

 

 

After sitting on these for a few days, it occured to me that the wordmarks were practically required for the Away and Alternate jerseys because without them, there's nothing that would indicate that they're for the Arizona Cardinals. Placing it on the sleeve makes what is an otherwise very common striping pattern somewhat proprietary and provides some greater visibility I suppose.

14 minutes ago, aawagner011 said:

 

Overall these are fine. Much better than what they are coming from. I like the inclusion of silver. It allows them to retain a silver face mask which fits well within their history of gray masks. Speaking of the silver masks, as I’ve already seen it addressed numerous times by other posters, they are NOT in fact chrome. They are silver. Check the photos.

 

I can see what they’re trying to do with the cardinal jersey. Since they have a history of wearing plain cardinal tops, it makes sense and the discrepancy in style from the white and black doesn’t bother me. This feels more akin to the Giants difference. Whereas a team like the Commanders were bumbling fools and couldn’t decide on a style at all and decided to just use three different ones. At least with these there does appear to be a rationale behind the decision. The word mark is big.

 

My main issues stem from the lack of contrasting socks and inconsistencies in the logos. It’s bizarre to see a monochrome logo on the cardinal jersey with the full color logo sitting just above it on the helmet. To me, that feels like Louisville who uses that stupid monochrome logo on their primary helmet. It feels very minor league.

 

If Arizona mixes and matches and can get their socks right (not hopeful), then I’d say this is one of the better redesigns of late. But again, the design loses a few points with the little details.

 

Edit - I’d probably prefer the white uniform’s striped to have thin black with a thick cardinal stripe. The silver stripe makes it less noticeable.

You can't say the the black alternates are not near matches of each other

I know it's not their signature look, but it was the very first thing that came to mind when the unis were unveiled

They could have added like 4 other colors to the Red and Black that would have been way cooler than Silver, really shocked they went with that

Laaaaaame

He just mentioned " who do we want wearing the red, white, and black?" and then referred to the new unis.

5 hours ago, EJ_Barlik said:

I'll believe that when I see it on the field.....

4 hours ago, tBBP said:

 

This hasn't been officially confirmed yet, but I do know Ms. Adams Strunk has been pushing for it for a good while now. Chances are pretty good we'll see the 1960 sets next season (and then of course we'll have folk all up and down the chain clamoring for Tennessee to make those the primaries, which they won't nor should they.)

 

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2022/04/02/titans-actively-working-oilers-throwbacks-2023/

Fair, they haven't made the officially official announcement yet, but it is definitely happening. 

On 1/7/2023 at 9:14 AM, DCarp1231 said:

Same deal as it is every year, one stop shop for everything uniform related in the calendar year. This time it is for 2023

 

Confirmed changes-

 

Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Philly all getting throwbacks with the recent addition of two helmet rule

 

Up in the air-

 

Lions and Jaguars

 

Potential Changes for future impending seasons-

 

Texans and Broncos

The Titans will also be adding Oilers throwback uniforms next season

Say what you will about the Canes and their incessant fiddling with their identity, but dark helmets on the road are awesome. I would love to see the league allow teams to do that full time. 

These are fantastic, I love it all- A great example of a subtle, yet needed refresh.

Just an FYI, I wouldn't read too much into teams not having any ads at this point in time. A lot of these deals won't be finalized until right before the regular season begins, exactly like what happened with helmet ads for many teams in the past two seasons.

The action green with blue pants would actually be an awesome, well-balanced look, but the monochrome is obviously just too much. Definitely wouldn't mind seeing the bottom stripe on the Seahawk be changed to green as well.

I'm sorry, but that's a really dumb angle to criticize a logo from. Logos aren't meant to be detailed field illustrations and measuring the worth of a mark by how accurately it captures every biological subtlety of what it is meant to represent is not ever going to be productive. She might as well note that owls aren't actually purple and silver either.

The Avs are just a mess generally and have one of the worst logos in all of major sports. The shift to blue over black has been a step in the right direction, but it's still super unbalanced in part due to how they use it with the uniform, but mainly because the blue is too dark and the black and silver feel unnecessary and create inconsistencies. If they could eliminate at least one of those accents, brighten the blue, and go back to the drawing board for a logo that isn't so hopelessly 90's, they could have a cool look. I just think that those steps would be a lot more effective then continuing to try and tinker with what feels like a hopelessly dated look.

New Orleans has no idea how they should look. Their slow chipping away of all the traditional striping paired with the continued insistence on monochrome looks is so wrong for them. A black Saints helmet with proper striping could look really cool, it's a shame this is what they're going with.

I'd rather Green Bay change then Georgia tbh, the logo suits them better

They could have at least called it the Crypto Center or something, that feels much more natural than what they chose.

47 minutes ago, IceCap said:

In what way does the 90s logo look cartoony? Especially compared to the current one? The current logo is an anime character. 

I think that every Sharks logo has been cartoon-y, just in different styles. The current does feel very anime-inspired and the old one feels like it's from an old comic strip. The new one is undeniably much more dynamic and has better proportions overall, but I would definitely like an update that reduces the bad aspects of it.

Yeah, I'm not sure that I understand what's supposed to be weird about the Rams' number font aside from maybe the shiny outline texture. It's one of the most legible typefaces in the league and is only slightly stylized. I think that was one of the things that they got right with the update.

Kind of annoying that everybody knew this was coming, and yet they waited until the deadline passed for uniforms to be planned next season. Oh well, still a long overdue change that will lead to some beloved looks returning along with some chances for more cohesive and interesting alternates. Consider me intrigued for what will come from this.

1 hour ago, aaa333bbb said:

Sorry but its still crazy to me how much the white facemasks make the blue pop on the jersey. Really clean look glad they made the switch full time. 

These uniforms are about as close to perfect as you can get now, instantly a contender for top uniform set in the NFL.