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  1. I mean sure, if you take away all of the significant Arizona Cardinals history that I mentioned, you would be left with the stuff that you like. Specifically, stuff that represented a team that played a lot more years of their years far away from Arizona than in it. I care. Context and history are important things that organizations have to understand in order to make an effective brand for their football team. For example, the Cardinals being the oldest team in the league means absolutely nothing for the people of Arizona. It's a piece of trivia, not something that should trump all else in determining a good art direction for them. Not to mention, the Falcons were founded in 1966. Not as old as the Cardinals but not newer by any means. Yet, that doesn't define your perception of them due to a lot of factors similar to the ones I laid out for the Cardinals. That's essentially what things like the stadium comment are pointing out, not a literal rule that teams in modern stadiums have to wear modern uniforms.
  2. I don't really see the appeal in giving the Cardinals a traditional look again. Despite being the oldest team in the league, there really isn't this rich iconic history that they would be referencing. I could get on board with the direction more if there was this great brand recognition with the Cardinals of old and everybody associated their uniforms with iconic football moments, but outside of Pat Tillman that's far from the reality. In reality, they're a modern team with legends like Larry Fitzgerald and Kurt Warner that helped really put them on the map over the past decade. Going forward, they're running what is probably the most cutting edge offense in the NFL lead by Kliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. They play games in a super futuristic (spaceship-like) stadium. None of these things make me think that returning to a super old school look makes much sense. Outside of those considerations and without having the ability to even lean on things like nostalgia or rich tradition, you're ultimately left with a really dull uniform that is just not aesthetically-pleasing enough to justify bringing back from the dead IMO. Side note, if a team tried to tack a giant state flag on their sleeves in 2020, this board would be coming for their head.
  3. I would love the return of those throwbacks as alternates, not full-time replacements. The current Seahawks look is still superior and embodies the team now.
  4. They're definitely kind of weird with the gradient treatment that reminds you more of a tech logo than a sports logo, but they're not as bad as social media would lead you to believe. Comparisons to things like the Chargers and Angelo State of all things are nothing more than lazy cheap shots that aren't all that accurate, especially considering that ASU was just appropriating the Rams helmet logo in the first place. Looking at the positives, they nailed the color scheme and the updated ram head has a nice classic feel to it that feels much more like the LA Rams. It could potentially use more refinement in the face to better match the primary, but it still looks nice enough. Outside of that, I've been looking at the primary for what feels like two whole days now and I still can't decide if I like it or not. I think that I really enjoy the way that the horn is incorporated into the "A", but the "L" feels much less intentional with how it's just sitting on top of it. Then again, I'm not sure of how else you could make it work, so it just keeps making me feel conflicted feelings.
  5. The Bucs' current uniforms (and logos) are riddled with problems, but I actually think that the big logo looks great on the helmets. It's unique and it allows the important part of their logo to stand out. I guess I could understand the complaints about the chinstrap/facemask sometimes obscuring the sword, but it doesn't bother me that much. I mean, I just think that these look awesome. Being able to see both flags from the front creates a cool visual as well.
  6. For real, I would't take any uniform mockups based on another person's memory as gospel. I remember everybody panicking online because somebody who got a sneak peak of the Dolphins (at-one-point) new uniforms was mistaking the number outline as black instead of navy.
  7. I love how you take the time to completely flesh out every project you do, it makes them feel all the more exciting and real. I also feel like one of the few people who's on your side in the whole "Seattle Kraken" situation, but I don't know how you can see work like this and not understand the potential that nickname has.
  8. I would guess so. The logo itself is pretty nice although the horn treatment makes me nervous. The current version is one of those things that has already been pretty much perfected.
  9. It's nice as an accompanying element, but it wouldn't be a good main crest simply for how detailed it is. It would lose all readability when shrunken down, which is really the primary way it would be seen (on a kit).
  10. These are pretty cool, the Lakers and Pistons are my favorites. The airbrush lightning bolts for Detroit are a cool touch.
  11. The Indiana State Sycamores going for an edgy, modern look is just misguided. Embrace something fun and vintage.
  12. You just made me realize how low-key strange it is that the Buccaneers logo features crossed swords, on a flag being carried by a sword. It's totally unnecessary, and your solution makes so much more sense. I really can't believe that I've never thought about that before.
  13. I think that certain colors (like Midnight Green as you mentioned) worked well in both fabrics, but matte still holds the edge for me in pretty much every case except for teams with metallic colors. Certain teams in particular really did not benefit from the shiny finish- However, since being corrected that Pewter is not actually a metallic color, I think that one serves as an exception to my rule.
  14. Any hostility you're feeling is one-sided. The only point that I'm making is that whether you like the design or not, it will have nothing to do with that phrase. Really, what would you have them say instead? It's just a people-pleasing expression to try and bridge two demographics together, nothing more.