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What is CFB’s concussion protocol because Rodemaker played last week after the head injury that’s keeping him out this week. And LSU tried to put Daniels back in after his head injury a few weeks ago.

edit: College football has reached peak absurdity with this game having playoff implications. 

If it's four best teams, it's 1. Michigan 2. Washington 3. Texas 4. Alabama but I don't see how an undefeated ACC team gets left out, even with how weak the conference is.  If Travis wasn't hurt for Florida State, it wouldn't be a discussion but he is hurt and personally, I don't think they're one of the four best teams with him.  They're certainly not without him.

43 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

I bet Harbaugh picks up that phone if he gets the call, seeing as he called the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry manufactured today.

 https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38992162/jim-harbaugh-michigan-ohio-state-rivalry-hatred-very-manufactured

I agree with Harbaugh on that one.

Yeah, but they’re not 6-5. I think their luck will run out eventually, but they’re still very good.

Also, *adjusts tin foil hat* the league wants another Kelce brothers Super Bowl with Taylor Swift in attendance so they’re going to keep benefiting from the most one-sided officiating I’ve ever seen. 

2 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

I go for the idea that Brady/Belichick was an equal partnership at first, but Brady overtook his coach in significance somewhere around 2007-10.

The first three Super Bowls were more Belichick than Brady.  After that it gets foggier but the league changed and Belichick let Brady cook.  Even then, though, the defense was always competent and won them Super Bowl LIII.  Somewhere along the way Belichick became the worst personnel guy in the league, but I feel like that was pretty late in the partnership.  If I remember correctly, they were always kicking the can down the road with regards to the cap and it finally caught up to them around the time Brady left.  Then Belichick went mad or stopped caring or whatever it was and made Matt Patricia his offensive coordinator.  Worth noting Brady's last season in New England was Belichick's otherworldly defense carrying Brady's lifeless offense to a 12-4 record.

3 hours ago, Unocal said:

Buffalo might as well tank.

 

Trade Josh Allen in the offseason for a QB who actually PROTECTS THE BALL

For as much as he turns the ball over, which is way too much, I think Josh Allen is the only reason the Bills are even relevant.  And frankly, he deserves zero blame today.  If Gabe Davis makes the correct read on an option route, they win that game in OT.

Broncos looked like the worst team in the league when they lost to Miami by a thousand points but now they’re sitting at 6-5 and right on the edge of the playoffs. Offense is still iffy but that defense is legit. 

6 minutes ago, Kramerica Industries said:

 

This post couldn't be more accurate if you tried. Florida hired a Mississippi State-level AD and that AD turned the football program into a Mississippi State-level program. Napier is a dead man walking, he's absolutely incompetent and overmatched trying to coach in the SEC. Stricklin's gotten two head coaching hires with the football program, and in terms of getting the program back where it's expected to be on a consistent basis, he's 0/2 with those hires. To say nothing about the collapse of the basketball program or the women's sports scandals. Firing Napier does nothing if you let someone who's proven to be incompetent at hiring head coaches get the chance to make another hire. It has to be a package deal. There's no good argument for Stricklin to wake up tomorrow still employed as the Florida AD. He's the AD who's seen the program have three consecutive 7-loss seasons under his watch. 

 

Fire Stricklin, fire Napier, fire everybody involved with University of Florida football in general. The entire program needs a deep pressure washing if there's any chance of getting rid of the rancid stench that has overwhelmed it. 

The entire UAA needs the pressure washing.  The whole thing just becomes more of a bummer when you realize they're not going to fire Stricklin because they don't care enough to.  That's why we were late to the facilities race, that's why we weren't serious about NIL, etc.  They'd rather be great in a bunch of sports that nobody actually cares about than commit to becoming a championship-contending football program again.  If Georgia possibly winning three straight national championships while we suffer three straight losing seasons doesn't light a fire in the boosters/UAA, nothing will.  They just are not serious about sports that matter.

Hard to believe how talent-poor, undisciplined, and terribly-coached this Florida team was.  I was hopeful when Napier was hired because he seemed to get it, and he does seem to with recruiting (except the recruiting can't overcome the losing anymore).  It's just the on-field product is so terrible.  This was a winnable game that we pissed away with poor discipline and lousy coaching, just like the last three games were winnable games that we pissed away with poor discipline and lousy coaching.  Now we just play the waiting game until he's fired after next season and do it all over again.  Please dear god fire Stricklin first, though.

I like Ryan Day and the idea of Ohio State firing him is ludicrous to me but Jim Harbaugh was right that he was born on third base.  I'm not sure anybody has taken over a better situation than him.  There's only two teams in that conference that can really compete with Ohio State -- one of them makes a habit of crapping the bed in big games and the other has beaten him three straight games.  Neither really recruits at the same level as Ohio State.

I don't know much about Michigan's roster but I'd assume they, like FSU, are benefitting from the covid year and kids that should have already graduated by now?  This little run they're on may  not be sustainable.

6 minutes ago, AnPheitseog said:

Also holy, the Lions almost came back.

Eh, not really. They only cut it to one score with 40 seconds left. Never really felt like the Packers were in any danger after they went up. 

9 minutes ago, throwuascenario said:

 

As I've said countless times, it does not matter how difficult it is to prove. If it can't be proven, he is presumed innocent. This is an extremely basic, easy-to-grasp concept in this country. I do not understand where the confusion is coming from.

The confusion is clearly on your end. His presumption of innocence means he is not in jail. It is not relevant towards anything else. 

9 minutes ago, throwuascenario said:

Where are you getting the numbers 2%-10%? If we knew with absolute certainty which ones were false and which ones weren't, this entire conversation would be pointless. Pretending that you know exactly what percentage of accusations are false is laughable.

There are a number of peer-reviewed studies on this. You can prove they’re incorrect if you’d like. 

9 minutes ago, throwuascenario said:

And finding 20+ women in a metro of 7M people who are willing to grab a payday of hundreds of thousands of dollars at minimum in exchange for accusing him would be literally the easiest thing ever. Imagine walking the streets of Houston, handing out thousand dollar bills. It would literally be that easy.

There’s not a pool of 7m people here. The pool is not everybody in the Houston area. The pool is women who have given Deshaun Watson a massage.  It’s significantly smaller. This isn’t that difficult. 

33 minutes ago, throwuascenario said:

 

I'm done going in circles. You win. He definitely did it because a lawyer rounded up a bunch of women and sued him with 0 evidence. Happy?

 

By the way, the "not guilty" vs "innocent" thing doesn't even apply here. This case didn't even make it to criminal trial because their evidence was so weak.

 

The only reason he wasn't found innocent is because the case literally didn't even have enough evidence to go to trial.

As you’ve been told countless times now, sexually assault is incredibly difficult to prove.  How would you go about proving somebody pushed your mouth or hand to their privates or forced you to give them oral sex?  Keep in mind that in this scenario, you’re a 110 pound woman and he’s a professional athlete.

Ignoring the sketchiness of seeing that many message therapists to begin with…the percentage of false accusations are somewhere between 2% and 10%. What do you think is the likelihood of finding 20+ women willing to falsely accuse him of sexual assault?  Pretty low. Now what’s the likelihood of finding 20+ Houston area massage therapists who can prove they’ve given him massages that are willing to falsely accuse him?  It’s impossibly low.

This guy doesn’t deserve to be defended. 

12 minutes ago, throwuascenario said:

 

If you make hundreds of millions of dollars at work, yes.

 

 

Let me make it as simple as possible: 

 

Guilty = Guilty

 

Anything else = Innocent

 

What about the phrase " innocent until proven guilty" do you not understand?

 

You literally need to ask yourself one question. Was he proven guilty? If not - as per the beginning of the phrase - he is innocent.

For one, innocent until proven guilty applies to the justice system, not to HR departments.

Second, there’s a reason people are declared “not guilty” rather than innocent.

Innocent = person did not commit the crime

 Not Guilty = could not be proven without a reasonable doubt that they did commit the crime

 Those are not the same thing.

23 minutes ago, MJWalker45 said:

With many schools cutting down schedules and losing players week by week to illness, the Covid exemption made sense. To me, in the Rising case this is the same as the Mormons that go on missions for 2 years then come back to school for their last two years. Bo Nix is going to get a better paycheck next year because of the stats he put up this year because of the extra reps he got at Oregon, as opposed to playing in the USFL or XFL. 

It’s not even the age thing to me. Rising’s been in QB rooms receiving coaching for six years already (unlike kids who go on missions and are away from CFB for two or whatever). It’s just such a massive competitive advantage. He’s going to be 25. Time to move onto whatever NFL practice squad he’s going to end up on.

The Covid year has had such a massive impact on college football and has impacted kids down the line since the scholarship limit hasn’t increased.  Florida State played nine games in 2020 and wasn’t bowl eligible, Wake played nine.  Just seems like huge overreactions to give kids like Jordan Travis and Sam Hartman full extra seasons because of it.

5 hours ago, TrueYankee26 said:

We will see Cam Rising in the Big 12 next year 

 

Ugh... will be the guys seventh year.  Maybe I'm just an old man yelling at clouds but medical redshirt or not, I don't think this should be allowed.  I'd be in favor of a five year max, personally.  We've seen this year what a huge advantage having one of these sixth year QBs is.  I also think the extra covid year of eligibility was a mistake.

I can’t imagine he has much of an NFL future. I’m not just saying this as a rival fan since I’m on the record saying he’s a great college player, but his athleticism won’t be as big of a weapon in the NFL as it is against the future pros in something other than sports he currently plays against and his passing skillset is pretty much just throwing up jump balls to Wilson and Coleman.  And frankly, a lot of his success is probably just from having six years of experience in CFB, four of them starting games in the same system. 

4 hours ago, Dynasty said:

I know they're not any good this season, but there's something funny about Auburn losing to a subdivision team (New Mexico State) that they, like everyone in their conference, schedule in an attempt to get an extra win.

 

Screw the ACC and SEC for doing that. Play nine conference games like everyone else.

I'm not going to defend the ACC because that conference is a joke, but as a fan of a team that consistently plays one of the toughest schedules in the country and that, next season, plays the most difficult schedule I've ever seen, it gets a little old seeing this argument.  I'd say the average SEC team plays a more difficult schedule than the average non-SEC team.  Go after the Michigan's and Oregon's of the world for their joke non-conference schedules.

My team, Florida, is pretty mediocre and likely won't be bowl eligible and would probably be a nine or ten win team with Michigan's schedule or Penn State’s. 

4 hours ago, WestCoastBias said:

Universities shouldn't value education first??

The benefit of having high-performing athletic departments to universities is clear enough and, frankly, there's a large enough separation between athletic departments and actual universities, that yes, schools would be wise to hire athletic directors with an eye on actually be as good as possible at sports, in my opinion.

edit: I guess I can't speak specifically about Arizona State's situation but for Florida, for instance, it would absolutely benefit the university to get serious about their academic programs.

What a game. An ugly ass game… but what a game. 

Lucky ASU.  I wish Florida’s AD would resign. 

From what I could tell, he went the smash mouth football route when he should have just handled the defense and hired some air raid guy to continue running some semblance of Leach’s offense. 

1 hour ago, MJWalker45 said:

If there was any game Franklin needed to trust his players more, this and Ohio State this year were the games. Franklin is Jimbo Fisher (the Texas A&M version) without a national title. He'll get a "program defining" bowl win and only win the games they're supposed to win. 

The problem is Miami is better than their record, same for Clemson, but coaching has hurt them more than bad play this year.

I mean... not really.  Miami needed OT to beat Virginia.  Looked like hot garbage against NC State.  They're playing a true freshman QB that wasn't even highly regarded out of high school.  Clemson is maybe better than their record but it still took Clemson missing a chip shot FG and repeatedly punching themselves in the nuts for FSU to beat them.  I'd maybe buy that Clemson is more talented than their record, but not better.  Then there's the BC game, they were losing to Duke with a hobbled Riley Leonard until they took him out of the game on an illegal hit, struggling against Pitt. 

I don’t see how any of these talking heads can say Ohio State hasn’t passed the eye test and then praise Florida State.

1 hour ago, Cujo said:

 

He's a pro QB, should be more aware and throw a better pass then. Flag was warranted.

Feel like you’re being intentionally obtuse here to, for god knows what reason, defend overzealous officiating.  For one, it was clearly a miscommunication on an option route.  The WR was still in a full sprint when the throw was made.  Second, the penalty requires the QB to be throwing the ball away to avoid an imminent loss of yardage.  He was not.   Allen had already completed his throwing motion by the time any defender comes unblocked.

2 hours ago, tBBP said:

And speaking of upsets...Clemson just upset Notre Dame and somehow 2-6 Arkansas just took down Florida in the swamp!

Florida was only a 3pt favorite at home, so not much of an upset. Unfortunately an already young defense with no depth lost it’s best player after an injury last week and two other important DL were out. That said, Florida’s biggest problem is they may be the worst coached team in the country.  Napier outdoes himself every week.  This week it was the FG unit running onto the field to kick a game winner after converting a first down on what should have been a routine spike to stop the clock, getting bailed out by the refs not letting Arkansas sub, and taking a procedural penalty for an illegal substitution.  He's recruiting well and will get at least next year's brutal schedule, but he's a dead man walking, imo.

Also, completely unrelated to Florida since this program hasn't been relevant enough to begin with, I become more and more convinced this is rigged every week. It’s always the same teams benefiting from the trash officiating… the ones that stand to potentially lose their conference millions with a loss.

Yeah, tried watching the Nuggets game and it’s unwatchable.