IceCap

Legend, I know we've had our differences but you're my favourite poster in this thread.

You're logic is sound....except that this is Gary Bettman's NHL where teams that are trouble, but not as much trouble as the Coyotes, are sacrificed to save the Great Arizona Hockey Experiment.

People were arguing that Gary Bettman is doing a good job? Amusingly yes. Mostly at HFBoards. Which I only visit because I apparently hate myself.

So that would make three teams under league control if things don't work out for the Devils right? The Devils, Blues, and Coyotes. Four in the last year, with the Stars. The argument that Gary Bettman is doing a good job gets weaker with each passing revelation.

I don't have a problem with those people. Neither do I have a problem with people who buy counterfeits. I mean it's your money, you're an adult, do what you want. My problem is when people try justifying the purchase of counterfeits with bulls*it "relative morality" philosophy and rants against law enforcement. If you buy counterfeits just be honest about it. Just say "yeah I know they're illegally produced, but I like my jerseys cheap. It's my money don't pester me." That would be fine. It's when you start trying to justify it as a morally superior activity that I take issue.

Yeah, I do think a lot of Federal Law Enforcement is a bunch of self-righteous busybodies. A lot of times they look to make up crimes just to justify their existence. Surely you already knew this? I would hope. Sounds like someone who found himself on the wrong end of the legal system.

The Negro League stuff is a grey area. I get the need to honour the legacies of those players, many of whom were equal to or greater then their Major League counterparts, but at the same time it just seems odd to honour a league that was, essentially, a giant symbol of segregation and social injustice.

Another unpopular opinion (it seems). Unless a team actually played in the ABA NBA teams need to stop with the ABA throwbacks. In fact teams need to stop throwing back to uniforms the organization never actually wore all together.

The New Jersey Devils are the same way. The Devils, though, are completely consistent when it comes to what colours are swapped between sweaters. The Blackhawks have two different striping patterns between their sweaters. Which isn't a bad thing. Despite that they still look like they belong to the same uniform set, which is all that really matters. It's kind of a holdover from an era when making sure each individual sweater looked its best was the goal, rather then obsessing over complete consistency. The Packers had the same kind of thing going on in the 60s. The striping pattern from the green jerseys wasn't carried over and inverted for the white jerseys because the powers that be decided it didn't look as good on the whites as a simpler design did.

That wasn't vintage white on their old thirds/throwbacks. The uniforms they were based on really did use a tan colour.

I don't know why, but the Senators' home and road uniforms went from eyesores to "hey, these are pretty cool" as soon as they switched from the Edge sock pattern to a more traditional sock pattern. In fact I would say the Sens' home/road set works better then the Penguins' home/road set. Maybe it's the dullness of the Penguins' khaki, maybe the template just looks better in red and black. I'm not sure.

I'm the opposite. Lose the diagonal stripe on the front and these are perfect. That front diagonal stripe is the only thing I dislike about this uniform set.

No they aren't. Those sweaters are so bad that they can't even be used in a game, unless every game is a clash, Interesting. Considering they were exclusively worn against a team that also wore red and white, and no one seemed to have a problem telling the teams apart.

Much appreciated As for the IIHF thread, I actually did that a while back during the 2010 games. Though I'd like to revisit a few of those concepts.... You already did it? I'd like to check that out. I'll go looking for it in the concepts section (of course, a link would be nice too...) Here ya go.

Much appreciated As for the IIHF thread, I actually did that a while back during the 2010 games. Though I'd like to revisit a few of those concepts....

I'd like my neighbors to the north to go to that uniform design. It is incredibly nice. I can't really complain about American national team designs. The current Team USA soccer team kits since about 2003 are nice (though the crest could use some work). The Team USA baseball team has an awesome design. USA Hockey and USA Basketball both have crappy logos, but at least those logos have ceased appearing on the uniforms. I personally think that all Team USA teams should use a touched-up and modernized version of this logo: but that's just my (probably unpopular) opinion. I love the idea of an eagle for Team USA. It seems so obvious, yet it's never really been explored all that much. Self-promotion time!

I hate the Hockey Canada logo. It would make for a great CHL logo, but I just can't stand it as the logo of our national hockey teams. For all the problems that the 2010 Olympic logo had, at least it wasn't the Hockey Canada logo. I'd love to see them go back to this logo... ...or hopefully this one:

Not to bad. A clean, yet modern, look.

Morgo is Lights Oot. He's the Canadian Lights Out.

The problem is that the NFL uses helmets as secondary logos (and in the case of the Browns, the primary logo). The NFL wants to maintain brand consistency, so they're going to shoot down alternate helmets outside of the throwback alternate.

Wow Casey, those are unpopular. You picked the right place for them though In fact there are two that I agree with. I'd love to see hockey go with primary/clash sweaters rather then with home/road. That doesn't necessarily mean colour vs colour. The Maple Leafs and Red Wings, for example, would probably use their whites as their primaries and their darks as their clashes, but I agree in principal. There's no reason a Canadiens/Bruins game can't be red vs black. Also, I like the Phoenix Coyotes' uniforms. I prefer the pre-Edge set, but I don't mind the Edge set either. The old Picasso Coyote/southwestern look was unique, yes, but it just didn't work for me. To many colours. Were they a black team? A brick team? A green team? An orange team? It was an experiment worth doing, but ultimately the team made the right choice going traditional. Which they managed to do right, unlike a certain team on the west coast of Florida. The Coyotes went with a very traditional striping pattern, but it was one that, at the time, wasn't in us anywhere else in the league. They also went a simplified two colour scheme, but rather then ape one used elsewhere they used a unique colour that ties into the region. Classic with a modern/regional twist, as it were. If they would just bring back the waist stripes they would look perfect.

Sweet! But can we get them with a receipt?

Eh, I like the Illionois helmets but I really don't like those GIANTS helmets. I really like New York teams using just a variation of the initials NY as their logo.

AW MAN NOT AGAIN YOU GUYS I eagerly await Nordiques nation descending on the Jobberdome.

I think both Kansas City and Houston are terrible ideas, for what it's worth. Someone's still advocating that the Coyotes stay in Glendale?