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Why not one for the one-off promotions and another for actual identity changes? Relocations, etc?

Better photos coming.

USHL Youngstown Phantoms hosting Muskegon Lumberjacks and both wearing Ohio State and Michigan inspired jerseys.

They couldve had an anthropomorphic bridge swinging a steel girder as a baseball bat. I do like how they point out which bridge it is when there's three that look almost identical.

Way, way, way too much going on with that "LOGGERS" wordmark on the log. There's black drop shadow to make it look like it's raised off the log. Then you have a dark green border. A white inner border. A gradient green to make it look like it's wrapping around the log. And THEN there's the lighter dark green to act as a bevel for the inside (only the inside) of the white outline. Wow. And the worst part is the gradient meant to make it look like the word is bending around the log fails because the log stays the same color nowhere where it's positioned. Why use shadow affects with lots of colors if the log and everything else is basically shadowless?..... Except for him and HIS FREAKING BEARD. Seriously? His right arm isn't shadowed by his head but his beard is casting a huge shadow on his arm and his arm is casting a huge shadow on the log. You know how uncomfortable a position he'd have to be in to cast those shadows on his upper arm and the log? He'd basically be laying down with his feet directly behind his head, with the arm and elbow hanging lower. And what's with every mascot having to swing stuff like a bat? C'mon people. Be creative.

The F Roundel works very well. The cowhead acting as part of the F is genius. Makes for a great cap logo. The primary, though, is a bit too cartoony, but works for kids, shirts, etc.

That's a glossing over what happened. Week 1 OBLITERATED their expectations. A 9.5 final rating. Over 3x what they were projecting. WEEK 1 (2/3 & 2/4) 9.5 — — — 3 — WEEK 2 (2/10 & 2/11) 4.6 -52% 2.4 — 2.1 -30% WEEK 3 (2/17 & 2/18) 3.1 -33% 1.2 -50% 1.5 -29% WEEK 4 (2/24 & 2/25) 2.6 -16% 1.1 -8% 1.4 -7% WEEK 5 (3/3 & 3/4) 2.4 -8% 0.9 -18% 1.2 -14% WEEK 6 (3/10 & 3/11) 2.4 0% 0.8 -11% 1.1 -8% WEEK 7 (3/17 & 3/18) 1.6 -33% 0.6 -25% 1 -9% WEEK 8 (3/24 & 3/25) 1.8 13% 0.6 0% 0.7 -30% WEEK 9 (3/31 & 4/1) 1.5 -17% 0.5 -17% 0.7 0% WEEK 10 (4/7 & 4/8) 1.5 0% 0.3 -40% 0.6 -14% WEEK 11 (4/14 & 4/15) 1.8 20% — — 0.7 17% WEEK 12 (4/21) 2.1 It was Week 4 where the ratings were below expectation. The funny thing is, even the 1.5 'record low primetime ratings' which were barely worse than the worst Stanley Cup finals aired on primetime network TV, would now be sought after, because LIVE sports means live viewers, and less likely to skip commercials a la DVR, etc. It's one of the reasons sports property rights fees are skyrocketing. They're the only thing on TV guaranteed to draw a live audience. And that's where the money is today.

In the Prospect League (collegiate summer league), Kokomo Jackrabbits is leaving for the Northwoods League. And the Butler BlueSox were trying to enter the Great Lakes League before opting to suspend operations for 2019.

Made me think of this Far Side comic:

They should kill two birds with one stone and go with Sod Scooters, and have this as their logo:

It's literally across the river from Grand Rapids. But, it's not in Grand Rapids and my guess was there was some local pressure to not give the team the Grand Rapids name. So, instead of Comstock Park, it's easier to do West Michigan. I always had thought it was further from downtown than it is. But, it's quite close. As for the problem with Grand Rapids, is that AAA isn't moving in any time soon. Plus, I'd think the stadium is too small now for it, anyways. AA, the Eastern League's western outpost is Akron and second is Erie. That's a long haul for one team. I thought NYPL having a team in Morgantown (just outside, actually), WV was bad when Mahoning Valley was already far away from the rest of the league. Aside from league size, the league they're in works well geographically. Maybe Bowling Green/Lake County were a bit of outliers moving from the South Atlantic during the last big shuffle, but it is the Midwest League of mostly Michigan, Illinois, and Iowa teams with Dayton/Lake County to the east, BG to the south, and a few teams up in Wisconsin. Plus, being A, they get to be affiliated with Detroit. Something I know from visiting GR in the past is that they're much more fans of Detroit than Chicago. Which helps that the Griffins are Red Wings affiliates, and their NBABCDEFG-League team is affiliate with the Pistons.

A lot of Eastern and Midwest leagues have 'educational' games where they start at 10am or so mid-week. Akron had two on back-to-back days. It's great for the players if it's the last game of a series before a road trip or an off day.

Interesting logo. At least the lobster isn't swinging a bat.

Was in Rochester once and had one of those monstrosities, hold the beans..... it was.... odd. As for the Buffalo Wings discussion, the wing just seems a little too thin. As for the wing diagram, I had always seen the 'wingette' called a 'flat' and the other main part a 'drummie'. At least that's how the meat market down from me sells them as.

That 'faux back' logo is heaps better than what they have. It's old-timey and has the feel of the old advertisements such as Hamburgler, etc. The current logo is just too 'cartoony'.

Yeah. Groupers is so much better than Miracle for a team name.

Yes, let's use a logo of what easily catches our team's namesake. How about a hunting rifle for the Milwaukee Bucks. Or traps for the Jumbo Shrimp.

The problem with Woodpeckers is you know within the first game people are just going to call them the Peckers. Fatbacks has a lot of real estate to play with to make the name their own.

Every time I saw this logo, it looked like the Tarpon was holding a pick ax. And I couldn't fathom why I kept seeing that. And then I realized. The bat rests on the front of his chest, slightly on his shoulder. The bat goes behind the roundel, yet his eyes/head are in front. It's clear by the length of the bat, it's nearly straight up and down. So, it shouldn't be going BEHIND the roundel if his bulging eyes are in front of it. Unless it's a ridiculously long bat. It loses the 3-D look and makes the roundel seem part of the bat, to me. And I can't unsee it. I like the logo. And think for a fish logo they did a good job and incorporated the Yankee pinstripes. Yet, that bat just keeps throwing me off.

Went to a few Hudson Valley games this past year. The old logo definitely had a 'kids club' feel to it. Really like the new primary and keeping the HV with the tail.The secondary homeplate logo is a nice logo for the area. Not liking the homeplate HV logo, though. Feels too unfinished. Like something's missing. It's blocky, and the alternating stripe effect just doesn't work across the entire background.

It's a real league.

He thinks the announcement of a team instantly creates thousands of diehard fans who will devote their lives and support to the team.

Exactly. So they're not going to pay MLB money to see a Rays game unless their team comes to town. However, getting in to a game for $10, even if not your team, might not be something to pass up.

The tickets are dirt cheap. So, I remember a Chargers game moving to Tempe getting a huge crowd when it was basically 'bring something to donate' to get in free. I forget Minnesota's game in Detroit, but remember it being something similar and had a huge crowd. True baseball fans might not be able to pass up $10 lower bowl seats.

And what's worse is that the USHL wants to start a team in Kansas City at a new arena that's to be built.