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Conference-less NBA, 5 divisions of 6.

 

ATLANTIC:

Boston

Toronto

Brooklyn

New York

Philadelphia

Washington

 

CENTRAL:

Detroit

Cleveland

Chicago

Milwaukee

Minnesota

Indiana

 

SOUTHEAST:

Charlotte

Atlanta

Miami

Orlando

New Orleans

Memphis

 

MOUNTAIN:

Utah

Dallas

San Antonio

Houston

Oklahoma City

Denver

 

PACIFIC:

Portland

Sacramento

Golden State

LA Lakers

LA Clippers

Phoenix

 

Top 16 teams make the playoffs.

8 minutes ago, burgundy said:

 

Unless they change uniform designations, they'd only be able to wear it with the blue jersey, saving us from mono-black at least. Not sure how I feel about black/blue/black, or black/blue/white though. Could look okay, could be garbage.

 

I do like the possibility of black/blue/black/blue, but the blue socks are a necessity. Black socks with black pants looks terrible, every time.

Sigh. We're only one year away from the Panthers in a black helmet. I was all for removing the one-helmet rule so long as it meant throwbacks only. With it being used for alternates as well we will see absolute garbage very, very soon.

6 minutes ago, PERRIN said:

Not to mention very similar face shading. I'm never a fan of the NFL copywrite claiming smaller leagues on such small matters like these, but this instance in particular was a bit more justified. The more you look at each logos defining features, the more and more similar the two logos become. I can see why the NFL thought they were similar, but filing a copywriter claim after the league had already died (plus the logo was never really used to begin with) is just a jerk move.

Jerk move or not, the NFL does have a very important interest in protecting their trademarks. It's the same thing as the Roughnecks' derrick logo, if the NFL wants to protect its trademark for certain logos (the most successful modern team and an incredibly popular throwback team) then they have to go after every logo that looks even somewhat similar.

 

I hate the NFL's business practices as much as the next guy but they are in the right to do this, in fact, they pretty much have to do this so that the trademark stays.

Big fan of the two updates you've made! New Shamrocks logo is an upgrade and I really like how the silver fades into the white. Great work!

JAX - Love the new set! The new colors are nice, I get a bit of a Detroit Lions vibe from the white set because of those numbers. The flag pattern is a bit tough to see now with the new colors but that's a minor issue.

 

NY - The logo is just too vertical to work well on a helmet. Not the biggest fan of the wide font you've used either, it doesn't seem to fit well. Perhaps a more art deco style would work?

 

CIN - There wasn't anything wrong with the old logo but this one is great as well! I like the new C but I have to wonder if the whole roundel is too busy. Think Bears-style, just the C and shamrock would work wonders as a primary.

 

ARZ - Love this set. Great pattern, excellent usage of the flag, the new colors pop nicely. No complaints!

 

CHI - I think I'd rather see the flag striping on the sleeves instead of the patch, especially when everything else has the flag style. Everything else looks great!

 

WPG - Big fan, no complaints!

 

VAN - I love how the purple and black fade into each other, but the purple into white doesn't work nearly as well. Not sure how to resolve the issue but you may have to remove the feather yoke on the away.

 

Overall great work yet again, only a few suggestions here. Keep it up!

20 minutes ago, dont care said:

Stadiums still wouldn’t be down town, there is a reason why new stadiums aren’t built down town and it isn’t because of “car culture” it’s because they the amount of real estate they take up it’s not worth it.

Plenty of brand-new arenas are downtown. Just recently, the Warriors opened a brand-new arena in San Francisco, Atlanta's massive soccer and football stadium is very close to downtown (though not exactly), and teams generally recognize that the closer a stadium is to a population center, the better it will draw.

 

Car culture has directly led to the absurd suburban sprawl that America faces, which enables the placement of stadiums so far away from urban centers.

If American cities weren't so aggressively anti-pedestrian this wouldn't be an issue. Stadia should be located in downtown locations, and if not, the teams should be on the hook for connecting them to public transportation. Car culture has made things so unnecessarily difficult to traverse without taking on the burden of owning a car.

 

Teams having public transportation connected to their stadiums makes it easier for people to go and also reduces the pollution created by the massive amount of cars traveling to the arena. Public transportation is always a worthwhile investment.

9 minutes ago, DukeofChutney said:

Do the Rays have as clear a path to relocation as the A's ? (OK, so its not certain, but its likely they'd move to Vegas.)

 

I'm thinking that Nashville was already mentioned for the Athletics, and theres been talk of Montreal but do either of them have things in place for such a move?

 

The Rays have already begun exploring a split-season format where they spend half their time in Tampa Bay and the other half in Montreal. Thus, most people tie them to Montreal. The only issue is the team's lease runs through 2027, so they have 6 years to find a new stadium or a new city.

This may seem like I'm trying to kick the market while it's down, given that I stand to benefit from the Rays moving, but I truly do wish that Tampa Bay had worked out. I just think that the well has been thoroughly poisoned for baseball in Florida, through the Marlins' firesale clownery and Tampa Bay's concrete disaster.  My ideal solution would be moving (or contracting!) the Marlins, moving the Rays organization to Miami, and possibly having them play several home series throughout the year in Tampa Bay.

 

I'm one of those people that somewhat believes in "if you build it, they will come", but it's been 20 years, and people still won't come. Maybe a new stadium fixes those issues, maybe it won't. Do the Rays and their jerk owner have enough political pull to make a new stadium happen in Tampa? I personally doubt it. If the Rays had started with a better stadium or were in a better place after the '08 run then you could certainly say that they're worth keeping, but their abysmal lease at the Trop, brought on by political ridiculousness by both the MLB and St. Pete's officials have kind of ruined it for Tampa Bay.

20 minutes ago, TaylorMade said:

So is this ANOTHER new set? Meaning teams will have a minimum of 5 and up to 7?

Best case scenario, it replaces the "City" or "Statements" for this year and then go away. Of course, that wouldn't add a new revenue stream, so it won't happen.

I'm split on keeping the name - on the one hand, it's a legacy team and the name is literally applicable to any city, but on the other hand, a Montreal baseball not named the Expos is heresy. I also generally prefer city-specific branding, but the A's, like the Raiders, are waaaaay past the point of changing the name being a consideration (with the exception of Montreal).

38 minutes ago, colortv said:

Does anyone know why the Lakers gold jersey has Nike branding and the purple statement jersey has Jordan branding?

Because before this season all Statement jerseys were switched to Jordan brand.

Very quick update: It seems like my issue has been fixed (or was never a problem and I misremembered something). Anyway, it's all good now!

3 minutes ago, Jer15 said:

I actually prefer going to the newest post. 

Usually I go to the newest post, but if I'm trying to get to the first post of a thread, it feels like the title is the most obvious place for that. Besides, the circle next to unread threads did that anyway, so there were both options.

Not sure if this is something you can adjust, but I dislike how clicking on the title of a thread brings you to the newest post instead of the first one. I preferred when clicking the circle next to it would do that.

 

I don't think this is right haha

I like script helmets when the script is actually a script and when it curves with the helmet. A straight wordmark isn't as good. It'd be better if the helmet included an actual jet and not a football.

If the Jets got rid of black and made sure that their pants and socks contrasted they'd have a great set. As it stands, they're good, better than their previous set, but could be much better with a couple tweaks.

16 minutes ago, GDAWG said:

So who has the territorial rights to San Antonio and Austin?

I would assume it's shared between Texas and Houston.

9 minutes ago, NormMacdonald said:

Los Angeles Athletics would be a special kind of messed up

The LA's

1 hour ago, Walk-Off said:

 

 While Charlotte has been rumored for years as a potential home of an MLB team -- thanks largely to both a metro area with steady population growth and the continued financial pull of the city's banking industry (especially the national juggernaut that is Bank of America) -- I am not aware of any serious, clearly organized movement for an MLB franchise in or near the South's Queen City.  In fact, I dare say that Raleigh has currently the most substantive and most tangible campaign for an MLB club anywhere in North Carolina (replete with a #RaleighOnDeck hashtag) ... even if most of the boosters of that project seem to be local hipsters whose individual and collective net worths are middle-class at best.

 

The real Queen City, thank you

 

Raleigh is much more organized right now, but they kind of have to be to combat Charlotte. The Raleigh metro isn't particularly conducive to a team, with three large, distinct populations spread out over about 113 square miles. Durham to Raleigh is about half an hour, and you can't rely on half of your population to drive half an hour or more see the team. Diehard fans sure, but you're going to be drawing mostly from the city proper. The Research Triangle, Raleigh's CSA, is about 700,000 people smaller than Charlotte's, and the TV market is also smaller, though not by much here. The corporate money is also much more prevalent here as well as we have 9 Fortune 500 companies with headquarters here while Raleigh has... 2, not to mention other companies with regional headquarters in the city. 

 

Both cities are held back by the fact that neither of them have a stadium. Raleigh loses to Charlotte in just about every metric - the only reasonable argument for the Triangle over the Queen City is that Raleigh only has the Hurricanes to compete with. But in the MLB Raleigh site you mentioned, while they reference the Hornets' attendance struggles, they fail to mention that the Hurricanes also don't draw well, in fact, they've draw worse than the Hornets recently. If the MLB announced real expansion or it was seriously under consideration for a franchise to move, I guarantee you somebody in Charlotte would step up, whether that's David Tepper or another one of the rich guys that make the area home.

If they do move (which they shouldn't), Portland should be their first choice (it won't be), followed by San Jose (whoops, shouldn't have given up that territory), then pretty much anything else, then Vegas. But of course, Vegas will jump the line and somehow end up with an original AL team then muck up the brand. Fun times!

Since you're doing cities with two teams, you could do CFL teams for the Canadian cities.That would give you (with MLS included):

 

Toronto - Blue Jays, Raptors, Maple Leafs, Argonauts, Toronto FC

Montreal - Canadiens, Alouettes, CF Montreal

Ottawa - Senators, RedBlacks

Winnipeg - Jets, Blue Bombers

Calgary - Flames, Stampeders

Edmonton - Oilers, EE Football Team

Vancouver - Canucks, BC Lions, Whitecaps

I can promise you that is not an unpopular opinion.