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43 minutes ago, Sodboy13 said:

 

 

Is there any reason to not pay players on time?

53 minutes ago, Maroon said:

 

I guess something I've learned here from you and @BringBackTheVet is that far fewer people are just aware of Scottish clans. I guess as someone with Scottish heritage I just naturally associate the word with Scotland. I would have never imagined that other people's first thought would be to think of the KKK when they just hear the word "Clan" rather than assuming it referred to actual clans.  white supremacists ruining perfectly good words.

Don't forget me and my limited awareness of Scottish clans.

As for the last part, it mirrors what happened to the R-word. People who claimed to be 'Native American' try to take this slur as a badge of honour. Well, it would have been if not for the newspapers back in the mid-19th century! What it's supposed to be a simple identification of Natives in general is now turned into a pejorative word used to refer to them doing bad things.

And sure, 90% of them won't give a single damn about it. But you'll still see other people who think the nickname is now an outdated, racial slur. Yet, when you look at the comments on Youtube about this issue, you won't know if the commenters in the comment sections are really Native American (or at least have ancestral blood to any Native tribes). At any point, it's probably racist white gammons pretending to be part of an ethnic group when they shouldn't be.

The difference between the Clan and the R-word is that the former has more than one meaning, while the latter just refers to one group of people. In a horrible way.

8 hours ago, sportsfan7 said:

But would you associate clan with the KKK automatically? For example, I myself learned a bit about the Khmer Rouge in school, but my first thought upon seeing rouge isn't the Khmer Rouge (Maybe not the best example, but it was the first one I thought of).

Well, with the possible nickname being 'Clansmen', I'd probably imagine black athletes getting lynched in front every spectator in the seats. The word 'Clan' is pretty much ruined thanks to deep association with racism in general.

As for me, when I look at the word itself, in historical terms I think of Scottish families being clan-based. However, you and me know that 'clan' also refers to you-know-who. It's not just one meaning because there is historical context between Scottish history and American history.

1 hour ago, sportsfan7 said:

I'm not Canadian, but is the KKK a big thing up there? Like, would an average Canadian understand the negatives connotations of clan/klan, or is the KKK just an American thing?

Malaysian here, I've been taught about the KKK a bit when I did Year 11 history.

Now that I think about it, the name 'clan' didn't fit well like I initially thought. Especially the Glasgow Clan of the UK's EIHL.

In before an ass ton of gammons came in to :censored: on this decision.

14 hours ago, O.C.D said:

At best I think it's a shallow PR move and at worst it's a heavy handed attempt to erase a time in history because it makes people uncomfortable.

What the :censored: tub of :censored: logic is this?

Can I make a suggestion?

How about holding a naming contest for a new rivalry game?

Winner gets seasons tickets to see the Oregon-Oregon State games?

3 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said:

 

Boom.

 

 

As a practice jersey, yes. 

As an ACTUAL jersey, no. 

2 hours ago, Silence of the Rams said:

Tbf the fire don't use that logo anymore so the statue of limitations has expired so he should be fine

It is still Chicago's logo, though. He may as well remove the Florian cross altogether.

On 6/30/2019 at 3:51 PM, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Actually, there should be no player names on any jersey. If every player on a team has a unique number, then names on the uniform are redundant.

 

Announcers and on-screen graphics keep the viewers informed about players' identities. And the crowds at the games can consult the scoreboard or the trusty scorecard. Thus player names on uniforms serve absolutely no useful purpose.

I'm more of a person who identifies the players by their name rather than their numbers. It's much easier with words at least for me.

On 6/9/2019 at 1:21 AM, Magic Dynasty said:

Nope. That kills the uniform for me. I really like the chevron design, and I think they should make it their primary design (with, you know, the TEAM AND CITY NAME AND NOT A VAGUE IDENTIFIER), but the shorts chevron is just awful. Since it would look terrible on both sides of the shorts, just remove it and have the claw logo on both sides. The chevron on the front is bold enough that you don’t need anything else.

 

To add to the topic, and slightly related, I hate when teams put wordmarks on the front that aren’t the city or team name. You’re not “Buzz City”, you’re the Charlotte Hornets. You’re not “North”, you’re the Toronto Raptors. Even nicknames like “Cavs” irk me, but I’ll let that slide.

I'm not a basketball fan to begin with, but if the wordmark not derived from the city or team name HAS SOMETHING to do with the city that they played in that's fine by my standards.

Just for the record, I wonder how the Raptors' city edition jersey would look if it said 'TORONTO' instead of 'NORTH'.

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