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1 hour ago, xbhaskarx said:
Not sure where this goes... they are joining the new women's first division of USL, not NWSL
Absolutely love the new crest for Dallas Trinity FC. I have no ties to Dallas or Texas, but I almost want them to succeed as a club just because of how much I love this crest and branding.
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Thank you, each of @MDGP @johnrafael @Ben5 for your feedback and advice. Based on some of the recommendations and demonstrations here alongside requests by Missouri State fans I shared this with, I tried to make a new version with some sharper corners and points, that is a bit more "modernized" while trying to maintain the retro script feeling, and that makes curves and internal shapes more consistent. I'm sure there are still improvements to be made, but I like the direction these are going!
EDIT: A Missouri State fan requested the "State" over the Missouri outline with an additional thin maroon outline around the white stroke.
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2 hours ago, Ben5 said:
Are you putting this on merchandise? Uniforms? Or just for fun? If it's just for personal use, you're good. Get yourself the practice of being able to edit and change things around until you make it your own.
I appreciate that insight. Right now it is just for personal use and for fun because I want this concept to exist in the world and share it with fellow Bears fans (and I would not be using it to make apparel myself - ever), but I do have a few people I know to contact that are at the university and I want to at least suggest that they consider something like this for the university. Even if I would expect that if they like the idea (and that is a big if) they probably would have a professional recreate it and do a better job than I did. But what I wouldn't want to do is send something that uses someone else's intellectual and creative property that could accidentally be misconstrued as theft even if (very hypothetically) any final and official version was made using a different process. Does that make sense?
1 hour ago, MDGP said:Also, I hope this advice doesn't come across overly harsh. There's definitely a lot of potential here and I think you're a few tweaks away from having a really great design.
This is incredibly helpful and not harsh at all. In fact, even showing your pen work with the paths helps me a lot, as I didn't create the "S" (or any of the letters) by creating a path that crosses over itself - I made an outline and then made another shape for the internal gaps. You make a really good point about the inner loop and outer loop. Now that you've explained your process and the need to make inner curves at least be generally the same as the outer curves, you can tell that the "S" has an inner shape is disconnected with the outer curve of the letter.
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1 hour ago, johnrafael said:
Another possible way is to trace the center line of each glyph with the Pen Tool, then defining the width of the line in a larger weight. When you have the maximum weight, you can convert the linework to outline, then you fix the details of the letters and the ligatures. The image spoilered below is a quick, shoddy try of doing this. I'm not really that close to the result, but it's a start.
Thanks! That is really good advice that I honestly did not consider. I literally just used the pen tool and manually traced the edges, which was hard with often indefinite edges. Your method would have been much clearer and resulted in more automatic consistency in stroke width.5 hours ago, Ben5 said:The best way I've found to make a script like this is to take a script font, then edit the hell out of it to make it unique.
I appreciate the suggestion. I did consider that, but I wanted to avoid violating any license requirements (and maybe I wouldn’t have, I’m just not aware enough of how those work and was afraid I would on accident). -
Absolutely beautiful. Keeping with tradition while updating stylistic sensibilities to a modern audience. The use of the resigned lion but while staying yellow (which creates a necessary contrast with the other colors of the crest) was the perfect choice.
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I initially did not want to make an individual "State" wordmark without "Missouri" or "MO" ahead of it, understanding that a maroon "State" would be more associated with Mississippi State. But on the Missouri State fan forum someone requested a design with "State" overlaying the shape of Missouri (thereby indicating that this does, in fact, refer to Missouri State). I made a few variations.
Maroon "State" against Maroon State Outline (and with yellow background to show white outline)
Smaller "State" within Missouri Outline:
Maroon "State" with Maroon Missouri:
White and Gold "State" with Maroon Missouri, with an alt color swap:
Maroon "State" with Gold outline against a solid and filled Missouri (probably my least favorite of the variations):
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Loons is probably my favorite one here as well. Love that center logo.
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Recently, notable college athletics programs have reintroduced historic script wordmarks to their brand identity, sometimes just in "retro" apparel and sometimes for the team uniforms – Bradley, Michigan State, and Mississippi State are ready examples. My alma mater, Missouri State University, also has a history of a script wordmark from 1950 to 1956 first reading “Southwest State” then later “Southwest Missouri” in two variations: a white jersey with a maroon script and a maroon jersey with a white script with an outline. It was with these uniforms that the 1952 Bears made a surprise tournament run to capture the 1952 NAIA national championship and repeat in 1953.
Thus far, Missouri State has not introduced any kid of script wordmark, so I thought I'd try my hand at recreating it using photos of the 1950s teams from digitized yearbooks. I am a complete amateur and have never done anything like this before, so I would love feedback. I tried my best to make them match the jerseys, but it was difficult because (1) when zoomed in these are very pixilated and I am unclear what the original details are such as precise curves or angles, and (2) there are variations between different jerseys from year-to-year and sometimes even within the same year so I had to sometimes choose between different styles.
I will accept any feedback, but especially covet critiques and advice on ways to make it better reflect the historic jerseys, places where curves, angles, and ligatures could be made better, and how to perhaps make something look better/cleaner/more consistent even if it doesn't follow the historic version perfectly. I created this by hand tracing with the CS5 Illustrator pen tool and absolutely believe there are areas for improvement. Thank you!
EDIT: Updating the OP to include the most current versions of the script wordmarks. Many thanks to MDGB, johnrafael, and Ben5 for their suggestions that helped this become better. I am still very open to recommendations and potential improvements!
The original versions prior to suggested edits:
Photographs that inspired this wordmark:
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I woulda picked Pittsburgh so that’s a loss for me.
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Seattle vs. Dallas
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Shoot, missed a week
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Chicago tonight
Rest to come
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Indianapolis vs. New England
Cleveland vs. Baltimore
Green Bay vs. Pittsburgh
San Francisco vs. Jacksonville
New Orleans vs. Minnesota
Houston vs. Cincinnati
Tennessee vs. Tampa Bay
Detroit vs. LA Chargers
Atlanta vs. Arizona
NY Giants vs. Dallas
Washington vs. Seattle
NY Jets vs. Las Vegas
Denver vs. Buffalo
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Tennessee vs. Pittsburgh
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Minnesota vs. Atlanta
Chicago vs. New Orleans
LA Rams vs. Green Bay
Washington vs. New England
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Indianapolis vs. Carolina
NY Giants vs. Las Vegas
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LA Chargers vs. NY Jets
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I am having a very poor prognostication season, and my fantasy football teams reflect that reality as well.
Tampa Bay vs. Buffalo
NY Jets vs. NY Giants
Jacksonville vs. Pittsburgh
Philadelphia vs. Washington
LA Rams vs. Dallas
Minnesota vs. Green Bay
Atlanta vs. Tennessee
New England vs. Miami
New Orleans vs. Indianapolis
Houston vs. Carolina
Cleveland vs. Seattle
Cincinnati vs. San Francisco
Kansas City vs. Denver
Baltimore vs. Arizona
Chicago vs. LA Chargers
Las Vegas vs. Detroit
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6 hours ago, VampyrRabbit said:
It looks like for merch the crest won't have all that s**** on the grey parts, and the name and swirly thing will be white.
Though still not great, this looks so much better. -
The absolute worst crest in all of MLS. The chrome is bad enough but at least it could be forgiven, the rainbow-adjacent gradient outline is heinous.
The primary visual on the logo also is just some abstract lines and curves that mean nothing. They fabricated four “virtues” to justify something that isn’t identifiable as anything.
And as for those “virtues” I don’t think it makes a lot of sense for one of them to be - literally - that they aren’t loud.
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New Orleans
Tampa Bay
Las Vegas
Cleveland
Washington
Detroit
Buffalo
Seattle
LA Rams
Kansas City
Green Bay
Philadelphia
San Francisco
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Kansas City wins Thursday.
Rest of picks come later
Baltimore
Atlanta
Chicago
Seattle
San Francisco
Miami
Indianapolis
New Orleans
Las Vegas
LA Rams
Philadelphia
Detroit
Buffalo
Dallas
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Chicago vs. Washington
Jacksonville vs. Buffalo
New Orleans vs. New England
Tennessee vs. Indianapolis
Baltimore vs. Pittsburgh
Carolina vs. Detroit
Houston vs. Atlanta
NY Giants vs. Miami
Cincinnati vs. Arizona
Philadelphia vs. LA Rams
NY Jets vs. Denver
Kansas City vs. Minnesota
Dallas vs. San Francisco
Green Bay vs. Las Vegas
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13 hours ago, upperV03 said:
You don’t need the name in your crest for it look good, as their Cascadian rivals have proven:
That said, I do think the Sounders’ new primary logo needs something else. As it stands, it feels a bit empty and more fitting as a secondary logo than the primary.
The Timber's crest truly is fantastic. Sometimes I forget how good it is.
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Basically, I think the Sounders successfully achieved their goal of simplifying their logo to fit current trends and scalability issues with the previous logo without butchering their brand. What they produced is straightforward, easily identifiable with their city, and includes shape/color nods to previous iterations of their brand.
But really it's the wordmark that is beautifully done.
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Detroit vs. Green Bay
Atlanta vs. Jacksonville
LA Rams vs. Indianapolis
Baltimore vs. Cleveland
Minnesota vs. Carolina
Cincinnati vs. Tennessee
Tampa Bay vs. New Orleans
Miami vs. Buffalo
Denver vs. Chicago
Washington vs. Philadelphia
Pittsburgh vs. Houston
Las Vegas vs. LA Chargers
Arizona vs. San Francisco
New England vs. Dallas
Kansas City vs. NY Jets
Seattle vs. NY Giants
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Week 3 schedule:
Missed out on picking SF
Atlanta vs. Detroit
LA Chargers vs. Minnesota
New Orleans vs. Green Bay
Houston vs. Jacksonville
Denver vs. Miami
Tennessee vs. Cleveland
Buffalo vs. Washington
Indianapolis vs. Baltimore
New England vs. NY Jets
Carolina vs. Seattle
Chicago vs. Kansas City
Dallas vs. Arizona
Pittsburgh vs. Las Vegas
Philadelphia vs. Tampa Bay
LA Rams vs. Cincinnati
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I feel like I'm in a dream. Fantasized about the Bears joining FBS for a long while.