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  1. 13 minutes ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

     

    Happy to oblige.

     

    The Astros did nothing that is not done by every single other team — including the crybaby Yankees.  Stealing signs is absolutely part of the game. The 1951 Giants used high-powered binoculars.

     

     

     

    Here is where this mindset gets dangerously divorced from reality. Armstrong mainly used his own blood. Even people who get squeamish about steroids should be able to acknowledge that using one's own blood is unobjectionable.

     

     

     

    No blowing-off is taking place. When the question is whether those players are good people, those facts form the basis to conclude that they are not. Those bad acts have nothing to do with the question of whether the players in question were amongst the greatest players ever — the answer to which is an unequivocal "yes". The essential point here is that ranking those players where they belong amongst the greatest ever neither ignores nor excuses those players' bad behaviour.

     

     

     

    It's an unreasonable rule, as it plays "let's pretend" with the facts of history. 

     

    As I mentioned earlier, banning Pete Rose from working in baseball on account of his gambling was appropriate. But acting as though he does not have a playing record but deserves recognition is a crime against history — especially considering that the gambling that got Rose banned from baseball happened after his playing career was over.

     

     

     

    Straw man alert! 

     

    To say that a substance should not be illegal is not the same thing as promoting its use. (But you knew that.) Note that there are legal things that are best avoided, most notably tobacco.

     

    I do not speak hypothetically; the person whom I loved most died at age 39 from the ravages on her body caused by the abuse of heroin and cocaine (as well as tobacco), substances which I would recommend to nobody.

     

    Indeed, I wouldn't even recommend the use of steroids, on account of the risk of cancer, as happened to Lyle Alzado.

     

    Still, a person has a fundamental right to put into his or her own body that which he or she chooses to put there. This acknowledgment of one's sovereignty over one's own body provides the incontrovertible moral basis for opposing prohibition of even the most dangerous substances.

     

     

     

    Well, the players from the 1960s would definitely disagree with you about amphetamines. Those players were convinced that "greenies" helped them recover from injuries and deal with fatigue. Jim Bouton wrote about this.

     

    While I have not used cocaine, plenty of people whom I know have used it. And they say that that drug gave them the ability to overlook certain types of pain. So it is safe to say that the use of that drug allowed ballplayers to play when they otherwise would not have been able to play.

     

     

    Bonds taking a steaming dump on two of the most important records in sports is a bigger crime against baseball history than Cooperstown not bestowing their highest honor on a guy who bet on his teams to lose.

     

    6 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

    They could absolutely include these guys in some way, shape, or form, while also doing the work to explain some of the context of that particular era or issue. But the thing is, that would take a little bit of work on their parts, and it would severely diminish the time they have to be old cranky codgers whining about the “sanctity” of a child’s game where you hit a cow skin ball with a wooden stick. 
     

     

    The Hall of Fame is more than plaques of inductees. The museum has plenty of stuff from Bonds and Rose. They just don't get to have a bust in there.

     

    Also the idea that the BBWAA is a bunch of elderly guys sitting around a fireplace conspiring on who to keep out is laughable. The last balloting had 385 voters. Old, middle aged, and young, and they didn't put Barry in because he's a cheater.

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    7 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

    To ban him from working in baseball from that point on is appreciate. But what is inappropriate is to ignore his brilliant playing career by keeping him out of the Hall of Fame, as all of the substantiated gambling accusations are from after he had retired as a player.

     

    The HOF doesn't allow people banned from baseball to be inducted. Pretty reasonable rule

     

     

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  3. 9 hours ago, Sykotyk said:

    Browns fan here, so permit me to be a bit bias about the Steelers...

     

    They greatly improved their QB squad. However, it's going to be a sheet-show no matter what. Wilson went there thinking he was a shoe-in for the starting position. Steelers went with him because Denver ate the rest of the contract. They boot Pickett to make it obvious who is starting. And now they get Fields?

     

    Wilson is not going to be happy. Fields won't be happy either. Sure, both think they're going to or should be the starter. But how well will they work together in the lockerroom instead of creating factions to support them starting over the other guy. Browns had many times two above average but flawed QBs at the same time where the team as a whole couldn't function because half wanted QBA and other half wanted QBB to start.

     

    You wind up with basically nothing. Players dog it when their guy isn't starting, in-fighting, etc. You need a clear starter. I know you say you are going to have a competition and no one's job is guaranteed, but you have to at least know that's just to avoid complacency by the starter. If you don't know today when trading for Fields whether he's QB1 or QB2 or if the future starter is still in the draft... then you're just throwing spaghetti at the wall and hoping something sticks.

     

    In the end, this feels like a Tommy Maddox situation. Remember him? Good, serviceable. Wins some games as long as he's not the weapon needed to win the game. But he can lose some games if you put them in his hands. But he played long enough to get them to Roethlisberger and the rest is history.

     

    Fields isn't their answer. But he might make them get over the hump enough, long enough, that they can work for QB1 in the 2025 or 2026 draft while assembling the rest of the roster around Fields/Wilson and and just plug in the future franchise QB later the way Roethlisberger was installed with the likes of that D, Bettis, Ward, Randle El, etc.

     

     

     

    Fields is not an above average QB and the Steelers aren't holding a QB competition. Wilson is the starter

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    The medical director at the Grossman Burn Center at Research Medical Center says 70% of patients referred for frostbite injuries suffered during the bitter cold in January are now being advised to schedule amputations.

     

    Majority of them are Chiefs fans who attended the team’s frigid playoff game.

     

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    Garcia told FOX4 in January she’d already seen dozens of frostbite patients. Many of those were Chiefs fans who attended the playoff game against the Miami Dolphins where it was -4 degrees with a wind chill of -27 degrees at kickoff.

     

    Note that this 70% does not refer specifically to patients who were at the game. Just a "majority" and "many" were at the game. The article also never states the actual number of patients suffering from frostbite. Just 70% of some unknown total.

    You'll also notice the URL says "70% of Chiefs fan" yet the actual title in the article is "Many Chiefs fans who suffered frostbite at bitter cold playoff game need amputations". Wonder why there's a difference 🤔

     

    From another article on the subject:

    https://www.npr.org/2024/01/17/1225209300/chiefs-dolphins-hypothermia-cold?darkschemeovr=1

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    The Kansas City Fire Department said a total of 69 people called from the stadium — about half with weather-related conditions — before and during the game. Fifteen were transported to the hospital for further evaluation.

    "Seven of those were for hypothermia symptoms, three were for frostbite symptoms, and five were for various other medical issues," said KCFD Battalion Chief Michael Hopkins.

     

    Out of a stated attendance of 71,492 people, at most 3 had something (a foot? a little off the end of the pinkie toe?) amputated. Not quite as sensational a number as "70%"

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  5. 3 hours ago, Luigi74 said:

    The Pirates should be in the East, the Phillies, Nats, and Mets are all in the same time zone, geographically closer and there was a stretch when the Buccos and Phillies were one of the fiercest rivalries in baseball. It was malpractice by the Pirates ownership at the time to allow them to be moved to the Central.

     

    Didn't the Braves throw a fit about not wanting to be in the Central? I may have imagined that because of how much I disliked them in the 90s

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    Florio notes that this could potentially involve measures such as regulating that no player can play more than 17 of the 18 regular-season games (with possible exceptions for quarterbacks, kickers, punters, and long snappers).

     

    Teams deciding which bottom feeder they're going to sit their stars against would make for comedy gold

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  7. 7 minutes ago, PurpleHayes said:

    If the planned obsolescence strategy is indeed true then fans would sniff that out and probably not buy the new, crappy jerseys at all and instead wait 5 years for a better one to come along

     

    You put too much trust in the average consumer

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