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2 hours ago, dont care said:

What is “gunmetal blue?” They wore sea foam blue which looked nothing like any kind of gunmetal I’ve ever seen.

It was gunmetal-ish, gray-ish and de-saturated for sure

Not even remotely close to any kind of sea foam green/blue

7 hours ago, BBTV said:

That's nothing at all like the "reverse retro" concept.

It's kind of what the Flames and Rangers did though. Similar in spirit, lazyness and/or a middle finger to the league for forcing them to wear a RR, either way, there was nothing Reverse about their Retros. Leafs and Wings too, to a lesser extent

4 hours ago, TBGKon said:

Wait, did they ditch the chrome domes or are the lighting skewing the images?

7 minutes ago, TheLAKnight said:

 

I'm guessing they're going to be used for certain games, like when Nashville originally wore gold helmets only on Saturdays, because those are definitely dark gray. 

Maybe they're just not ready yet?

33 minutes ago, dont care said:

So what exactly is wrong with the oilers logo other than “I don’t like it”?

The font, makes the logo look extremely dated. You can immediately tell the logo was created in the 70s just by looking at it. And beyond the logo, the white jersey looks good and is well balanced but the blue jersey is way too loud and has too much orange on it. And every orange jersey they've worn has been an eyesore. Could still use a tweak or two, like making the oil drop bigger and having less drip on the letters and switching to a sans serif font , for example

But yeah granted, it mostly amounts to "I don't like it". Pic related, the Oilers jersey if it were a living room

9 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

So did I, and I think the logo looks perfectly fine. Do the Islanders need to change their logo just because it's old and I have no context for their dynasty since I grew up seeing them as a punchline? No, because that's the logo that's associated with 4 straight Stanley Cups and some of the best players to ever skate at that time, like Bossy, Trottier, Goring and the like. Same with the Oilers; that logo saw 5 Cups, and probably would've saw a sixth had Roloson not gotten injured in 2006.

 

The Oilers' logo has remained virtually the same for 47 years and counting. It's been worn by legends like Gretzky, Kurri, Coffey, Fuhr, Messier and Anderson to nearly-unparalleled success, and I'd much rather they stick to that tradition than redesign into some kind of silly oil worker logo or go minimalist and completely botch it. We don't need the Oilers going down the road of the Bengals by massively oversimplifying their logo.

 

There's value in tradition. The Flyers have never changed their logo, do we need them to make some dumb modernized version of their logo as the new primary just to say they're "in the 21st century now"?

Yeah and my point is, it's looked awful for 47 years and counting. The Flyers don't need to change their logo, it doesn't look dated. But they did anyway like the poster after me said, and it didn't stick because their logo is already pretty much perfect. They're one of the rare teams that got it right the first time

If every single O6 team has tweaked their logo several times to keep things fresh, the Oilers can afford to tweak theirs. No O6 team has gone down the "Bengals road". They can modernize the logo without dumbing it down

35 minutes ago, IceCap said:

 It's the same bad argument of "everyone would hate the Yankees' uniforms if they were unveiled today."

I'm not a baseball fan, so I can't say anything about the Yankees in particular. Wouldn't say that's a bad argument. A lot of old uniforms are super quirky and just cause something is old, doesn't mean it's good or that it's timeless. Some old stuff is just bad and dated. I get that it's all very subjective, but some things are more subjective than others lol. Like the Bruins wearing yellow socks with their black jerseys, if they came out today, some people would hate it and some would say it balances colors better on the uniform because of the yellow shoulder yokes. If the Oilers logo came out today, people would absolutely hate the font used in the logo, and for good reason. Not sure why that's a "bad" argument. Old things are exempt from criticism?

40 minutes ago, IceCap said:

You can't separate a logo or uniform from the context it exists in

AKSHULLY, I sure can. I'm not an Oilers fan and I've never seen Gretzky, Messier or Kurri play in those jerseys. This uniform has no meaning for me, no context. I grew up watching hockey when the Oilers were navy and copper. I feel like my opinion is as unbiased as it gets, even though my own personal tastes may get in the way

46 minutes ago, IceCap said:

So if things were different they'd be different. Great, gotcha.

As in, all that success in the 80s has made people view this dated logo with rose tinted glasses. Nostalgia is a very real thing. That logo should have stayed in the 80s though. Success can make a crappy logo tolerable sometimes, and in this case, that logo is mostly associated with greatness, not with being a good logo

On 1/26/2021 at 12:10 AM, Bmac said:

The Edmonton Oilers identity is bad. It's so painfully stuck in the past. At least the current color combo is sharp and interesting, and the orange jersey is bold and fun. But the rest is garbage. The identity was born out of an era in which hockey uniforms were just random stripes and blocks of color. The trend of colored shoulders was overdone, and the striping patterns were way off when it came to sizing and color balance. Hell, they didn't even leave room for sleeve numbers at first (the Oilers originally used shoulder numbers was a member of the WHA). And don't even get me started on the outdated groovy logo...

 

 

The Oilers jerseys from the 80's look like they're counterfeit. I know that's more about the production style and quality of hockey uniforms at that time, but that's kind of my point. The whole era looked awful, and the Oilers are the poster child for the awfulness.

 

It's too bad they were so damn successful during that era...

Couldn't agree more. Without Gretzky and the Cups, they would have changed the logo and jerseys a long time ago

3 hours ago, M4One said:

 

Wayne Gretzky played for 4 teams, too, but are you going to argue that him in a Blues uniform isn't wrong.  It's not like Chara is going to play another 10 years as a Capital.  He's probably done after this season or at the very least, within the next couple of seasons.

I dunno buddy, I don't think those two players/situations are comparable at all so let's just respectfully agree to disagree. Too many factors involved, it's all very subjective

4 hours ago, DNAsports said:

Couldn't have said it better myself

5 hours ago, charger77 said:

 

Yeah, because we remeber that Norris victory with the Islanders and captianing the Senators to the Cup.

He was a big part of the Battle of Ontario in the early 2000s as a Senator. Maybe you're too young to remember? Either way, he played 8 (EIGHT) seasons with those two teams and he has always been the tallest player in the NHL so it's not like he was a complete unknown on those teams, and by the time he got to Ottawa he was a very solid D-man. He doesn't really belong in this thread, sorry.

13 hours ago, charger77 said:

(Chara in a Caps jersey)

Nah, he's on his 4th team. It's not that weird