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And you know, now that you say this, as many times as I've been out to UT & Salt Lake specifically, I've never thought of it that way. I know it's west, but I never thought of it as southwest. Probably because Utah's probably more well known for the Wasatch Front...or the Delicate Arch in Moab. Anyway, perhaps IF the Coyotes were to move to Utah, the nickname and likeness of a coyote could be kept...but the environmental branding could be reworked around Wasatch and Red Rock imagery. (Of course this is also just me thinking out loud, so take that for the two cents it's worth...)

I feel you, except...Fanatics also owns Mitchell & Ness now (and I believe '47 Brand, too). M&N's stuff ain't what it used to be when it was still its own little independent shop. Doggone shame, too.

We like to blame Nike for a lot of things around here...buy Nike had nothing to do with this. This is 100% on the league. I give it until the beginning of next preseason.

The NBA's Memphis Grizzlies might pitch a fit about that...

Yeeeaaahhh I think the Golden Knights might have a lil' issue with that...

UtOx??? How about *checks state law requiring "Utah" to be in the name of any team utilizing state funding* Utah Stingwingers???

I'm gonna repeat what I've probably repeated 1,946 times already around these parts. @rtrich11 had probably the best idea for a Browns primary logo... ...Pair that with @andrewharrington's Brownie Elf concept logo and you got yourself a solid enduring visual identity package. And if none of that is doable, then perhaps Fraser Davidson's helmet logo concept would be: And at the risk of grayjacking this thread, if the Browns had to switch away from brown masks, they should have went back to gray. The white sticks out a bit too much for my liking...but that's just my two rusted Lincolns. (Oh and ditto to whoever it was that suggested orange pants home and away as the primary option....)

That ain't even shade...that's a full-on eclipse.

Yeah, um...the readability of this thing is off. "City of Brotherly"?? I know that's supposed to connect (ha--"connect") to the LOVE, but the execution of this concept is...nah, man. They'd have been better off surrounding it with either 26 or 40 stars...of course then it'd look even more like the Union, but whatevs.

It's better than Colorado's... - Signed A Former South Dakotan Who's a Current Arkansan but was raised a Floridian

Alright, so... 1) Arizona 2.) Maryland 3.) New Mexico 4.) Ohio (only because it's the only swallowtail...) Everything else after that is up for debate, but none of them are cracking the top 4. This is my word...and as such is beyond contestation.* *in my Prince Edward of Wales voice*

Arizona and Maryland both raise an objection...

Think you may be confusing cyan for turquoise there...

I should probably clarify my previous post. The particular hue of blue in that concept looks to be more cyan rather than columbia blue. That may make the difference in whether the Texans could conceivably use that colorway in the future...so long as it's subordinate to red. (And the more I sit and think about it, I think the more I'd like to see that happen... )

Since we're back to Texanjacking it seems, here's this. Not a leak of any kind, just some guy's concept on Instagram. But I will say the red version is kinda...interesting: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5JfO9pR-bC/?igsh=M2RvcW96b3FkZTJo Giving me serious Delaware State vibes, but I...think I...really...like it??? (!). And now that I'm looking at this far more intensely than I should probably be legally allowed, IF the Texans were to use the light blue in this way—as a secondary to their red—I could completely see this being a potential future colorway for them. (Of course, naturally a light blue alt would pop up down the line somewhere, but still.) Funnily enough, it'd also be among the more unique looks in the league despite the individual colors themselves being quite common in pro sports.

Alright, let me bring you forward on this thing. I'd been following the Snatit since about 2013, right before I moved to Nashville [semi]permanently. In all that time I watched a/ how backwards that franchise operated even after Amy Adams Strunk took controlling interest and b/ how they constantly have played up-and-down to competition, routinely dominating the league's best teams while themselves consistently getting beat by the doormats. As a matter of fact, about the only thing thats been consistent about them has in fact been their inconsistency. It's about as backwards as a team can act on the field; thus, I christened them the "Snatit". And now you know the backstory. Now time will tell whether new GM Carthon will turn this thing—and that nickname—around, but for now, they're the Snatit and that's just what they are.

The Vegas Golden Knights would like to have a word with you... I keep seeing people say this—I see it said about the Panthers' helmets and saw it said about the Snatit's former white helmets too—and I will vehemently, wholeheartedly disagree with it every time. For one, neither the Ravens' nor Snatit's helmet logos really fit with a full braisher (or any full stripe, for that matter), and for two, tapered stripes work perfectly fine when considering the forms of a feather. Now as far as the Panthers, I do think they'd benefit from reversing the colors to match their shoulder and pants swoops (and maybe shortening the helmet swoops just a bit), but other than that, they're just fine the way they are. (I won't discuss the Snatit's helmets in this space, except to say they need new ones and when they show up they better not be navy.)

The "source" of this rumor has already been discussed, BUT...to be completely honest, I can completely see the Broncos switching over to a white primary helmet. (In fact, I bet that "snowcapped" alternate was just a test run to see how it'd be received by the public.) To be entirely honest, I wouldn't hate it; it's just that the white horsehead would dang near get lost on a white background (yeah I know it has the orange mane and navy blue keyline, but still). All that to the side, to me anyway, white/orange/white would look pretty dang snazzy for Denver. (Talking about the color order, not the details within it.) But that's just my two rusted Lincolns on the matter. Oh and if, for some reason, white primary helmets do appear, direct all blame and vitriol straight at the NFL Properties offices in New York City...they are the ones who dictate team helmet colors. I can also see "mountain-striped" sleeve caps becoming a thing just because of course can be a thing. I've never cared for the half-italic numbers, either, but I feel they had something really going with the focus on honolulu blue and silver--until they started adding plain white pants to the mix. That same uniform set, minus the white pants--except we all know some variant of those is coming with the next set because ICY--and the unnecessary darker gray, would have made for a modern classic, if they could just keep it to blue and silver. But they won't, and I'm pessimistically curious (that ain't a word; I just made it up) as to what kind of numbers they came up with. Are we sure? Seemed to work well enough for me! (Then again you may have been coming at that from a different angle that I also may have missed...) I go back and forth on this. On the one hand, I think a teal helmet would look pretty slick...well, I know it would becausre there are plenty of concept teal helmets out there already. That said, here's how it'd look with the former uniform set: As one can see, it's the flat texture here. (I'd be cool with gloss, also, as will be seen below.) Imagine that with teal pants, for a teal/black/teal look and a teal/white/teal away look. Coastal Carolina gave us an idea of how that could look a couple seasons ago: I'm all for anything that amps up the teal in Jacksonville. But they'd have to be smart about it...or at least distinctive, which their current uniform set is most certainly not. https://imgur.com/dPsUQJf

Add some chartreuse to that to really make it "pop".

I'm sure it probably happened before the ramprats loaded their baggage onto the plane that took them to spring training...but I was just super late on reporting on it this year. And this just saved me three years of further spring training/playoff elimination reports. Muchas gracias, je vous remercie, salamat po, shukriyaa, us tsuag and all that.

And by that time the Pittsburgh Pirates will have been mathematically and unilaterally eliminated from playoff contention...

Wellll....it's not exactly new for FSU. The basketball team has been doing the turquoise alt thing for years; it just finally made it to the football field last season. And even then, it was just the coaches and sideline staff. This season, though, we're likely to see the jerseys on the field. It's a one-off thing (and teal/turquoise/aquamarine is one of my favorite colors), so I'm cool wit it. Fun fact about these: it took about eight years into their existence before Bobby Bowden finally broke and admitted the only reason FSU had those alternates in the first place was because Nike wanted them to have a black uniform. Having said that, those are probably among the more inoffensive black alts in football. And at least with Florida state the black ain't eight kinds of out of place—like it is on those of, say, those swamp things that play about two and a half hours down 10 and 75...

Well last year the Cardinals managed to keep everything under lock and key until the day of their reveal (only to underwhelm just about everyone on the planet—but given the alternative, that may have been the smart play). So it is possible, and maybe the Texans and other teams learned *some* lessons from the Cardinals.

And weed. And fentanyl. And too many soccer moms rolling around in Chevrolet Tahoes. **************** ...Anyway, as for the Ravens, I'm GLAD they're keeping their primary looks as they are (though I'm not too keen on the black pants, at least not without similar braisher stripes to their other three pants sets). I see people remark often about how they should change their number font and such...for what? Beyond maybe the drop shadow, they just just as good now as they did 24 years ago. They're not unnecessary custom hackjobs; they—and the team wordmarks—are slightly modified from an actual real typeface (Matrix, for those not in the know) Nothing wrong with them at all. Now I WILL say they could use an updated birdhead logo (I dunno, maybe something like...THIS?), but beyond all that, kudos to Baltimore for actually maintaining consistency in their set for as long as they have—and being one of just two teams to have done so since the wave of mid-90s rebrands (the other being the Eagles; the Buccaneers eventually figured out their error and went back to their '97 refresh.)

Total and complete speculation on my part, but I'm also willing to bet on white *ahem* snowcapped helmets (which last year was a trial run for)—I'm not yet ready to bet on them being primary helmets, but I've been wrong before. The mountain stripes on the sleeve caps seems like a no-brainer...and in the grand scheme of things really isn't the worst thing in the world. The thing I'm most concerned about is that this BRONCOS uniforms set turns into a COLORADO/CITY CONNECT uniform moreso than a Broncos uniform update...especially if the rumored "ice blue" is actually a thing (which i hope it won't be). But I guess we'll wait and see....