quantum Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 30 catches... 21 first downs. You guys make it sound like he doesn't contribute at all. Those numbers sound better than most 3rd or 4th WR's.Besides, what do you lose by keeping him on the team? A special teams player? A RB, who, outside of injury, won't touch the field and is playing a position where any mid-season free agent pickup they take is capable of being successful in their system?Is Rice really worse than Darius Watts, who drops countless passes thrown right to his hands?Is their no benefit towards having one of the hardest working players ever on your team when you have another WR, Ashley Lelie, who has all the talent in the world but once admitted that he tried getting by doing the bare minimum?Quantum, who are you to say he's tarnishing his legacy? Will he not be remembered as the best ever because he decided to keep playing? He loves to play the game and feels he can contribute... who are you to say he's wrong for continuing to play?The fact is legends are made by the perception of others. I have nothing against Rice. He simply is the greatest receiver to have ever played the game. Everyone harps about the love of the game. My argument is that for these players, it's more than that. Legacy equals immortality. How sad is it for a great guy like Rice to have his legacy tarnished because he was too afraid to quit? If Rice doesn't retire, he will be the #4 WR. How much playing time is he really going to get, considering that the position is usually a returner on special teams? And to answer your question, Rice is worse than Darius Watts at this stage of his life.Sometimes I think you guys want people like Rice to stick around because leaving would remind you you're not a kid anymore. "One of my concerns is shysters show up and take advantage of people's good will and generosity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 I dunno why Rice would publicly comtemplate retirement and then say "the hell with it" and just play on when his team knows he's all but given up on playing the game.If you ask me, I say he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 30 catches... 21 first downs. You guys make it sound like he doesn't contribute at all. Those numbers sound better than most 3rd or 4th WR's.Besides, what do you lose by keeping him on the team? A special teams player? A RB, who, outside of injury, won't touch the field and is playing a position where any mid-season free agent pickup they take is capable of being successful in their system?Is Rice really worse than Darius Watts, who drops countless passes thrown right to his hands?Is their no benefit towards having one of the hardest working players ever on your team when you have another WR, Ashley Lelie, who has all the talent in the world but once admitted that he tried getting by doing the bare minimum?Quantum, who are you to say he's tarnishing his legacy? Will he not be remembered as the best ever because he decided to keep playing? He loves to play the game and feels he can contribute... who are you to say he's wrong for continuing to play? You make a couple of good points, but again, it's the NFL, it's not charity. No one owes Jerry Rice anything. NFL coaches don't give roster spots to players to be an influence on the younger guys. They give roster spots to players that make plays, make the team better, and fill a specific role for the team. What role does Rice fill? 4th and 5th receivers by rule are supposed to play special teams, Jerry wouldn't. The only thing Jerry would contribute to are his own stats. Regarding RBs, ask Minnesota how important it is to have a stable of running backs. Another thing we don't realize is that it is as much for practice as it is for taking snaps in the game. You say a running back can be successful in an offense as a midseason pickup? What about a receiver? It's like the routes change.According to Mike Shanahan, Rice is worse than Darius Watts. Watts may drop passes, but he can at least get open. In the NFL, if a receiver can't get open he doesn't get the ball. You can quote statistics all you want and 30 catches for 21 first downs looks great and all, but how many catches could he have had if he could separate from corners. Remember when the Raiders wouldn't throw him the ball? The Raiders! A team with no running game last year. Jerry had the dropsies in Seattle too by the way. He's the greatest ever, but it does not mean that he can play the game at the NFL level anymore. He's the hardest worker ever, but hard work doesn't make up for a lack of skills. On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantum Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 ESPN is reporting Rice will retire at 1:30 EST today. "One of my concerns is shysters show up and take advantage of people's good will and generosity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 ESPN is reporting Rice will retire at 1:30 EST today. Called it! However, Rice had a damn good career. He will for sure go down as the best wide reciever of all-time and one of the best players to ever play the game. First-ballot HOFer all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigga Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 To Jerry Rice, the best ever... On January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, NJTank said: Btw this is old hat for Notre Dame. Knits Rockne made up George Tip's death bed speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc49erfan15 Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Here's to Jerry Rice, the greatest reciever ever to play in the NFL.21 NFL seasons.207 total touchdowns, all time leader. 2nd? Emmitt Smith, 175.197 receiving touchdowns, all time leader. 2nd? Cris Carter, 130.1,549 receptions, all time leader. 2nd? Cris Carter, 1101.22,859 recieving yards, all time leader. 2nd? Tim Brown, 14934.23,540 yards from scrimmage, all time leader. 2nd? Emmitt Smith, 21579.14 straight 1,000 yard receiving seasons, 11 straight from 1986-1996.274 consecutive games with a reception, NFL record. 1,848 receiving yards in 1995, NFL record.22 receiving touchdowns in 1987...IN 12 GAMES! NFL record.74 games with 100+ receiving yards. NFL record.41 games with multiple TDs. NFL record.13 consecutive games with a TD. NFL record.12 consecutive 50-catch seasons. NFL record.21 NFL seasons, 0 lost fumbles. NFL record.Not to mention postseason, Super Bowl, and Pro Bowl records.1985 NFL Rookie of the Year.SI NFL Player of the Year, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1993.1987 NFL MVP.Super Bowl XXIII MVP.1994 NFC MVP.1995 Pro Bowl MVP.Just simply the greatest ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlands, CA Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 To Jerry Rice, the best ever... Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 257 consecutive games with a reception, NFL record. Let's go ahead and make that 274 consecutive games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantum Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 ESPN's Outside the Lines will be discussing at 6:40 ET tonight how former superstars chose what terms to end their careers. "One of my concerns is shysters show up and take advantage of people's good will and generosity". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 257 consecutive games with a reception, NFL record. Let's go ahead and make that 274 consecutive games. That streak ended last year. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 257 consecutive games with a reception, NFL record. Let's go ahead and make that 274 consecutive games. That streak ended last year. Indeed it did, while he was a member of the Raiders before being dealt to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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