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No Problem. I do have my "resources" form time to time! ;-)
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Yes the black border is there! Along with the smaller fed outline on the letters. The word "Atlanta" in not the endzone. The border looks to be about half as thick as the example in your post.
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Yea "Fisheye" lenses on cameras are a bit tricky! ;-)
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I can't believe old school double-bar facemasks lasted until the year 1995 in Super Bowl field designs! Since the Super Bowl is the NFL's biggest stage you'd think they would have made sure to use more common / modern facemasks before then. I mean, the double-bar facemask became rare for non-kickers and punters in the late 70's and early 80's. The only non-kicker I can think of who wore it when no one else did was Dolphins WR Mark Duper.
When I first looked at the field design for Super Bowl 29 I assumed the double-bar facemasks were used as a throwback reference since 1994 was the 75th anniversary of the league and all the teams wore throwback uniforms. But I was wrong, the league had just always used the double-bar design! Wow!
One more thing: the more modern facemasks that first appeared in the field design of Super Bowl XXX: the way they appear in your rendering, is that how they really looked on TV and in real life? There's just something odd about them in your drawing. I'm not dissing your drawing or anything, I'm just pointing out that they look unusual. If it is accurate to how they looked in real life / on TV I'm just curious why they look odd and not like any facemasks I've ever seen on a real football helmet.
i can answer this one question myself. I am a resident of Phoenix, and have volunteered at both SB XXX and XLII, and will do so again at SB XLIX. The design was the first to use the "Modern" facemasks, and it was right about then the "official" helmet logos transistioned from the "2 bar" to the "Cage" mask. This one design only showed up in this Super Bowl as in SB XXXI and beyond the helmets where on the field area, or completely changed in size altogether. And from SBXL no longer present on the field at all!
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Super Bowl XXX: January 28, 1996. Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, Arizona
Dallas Cowboys - 27 Pittsburgh Steelers - 17
I've got Super Bowl XXX on VHS (it was painful to watch) so I was able to perfect the helmets.
Neil O'Donnell threw the ball right to Larry Brown, not once; but twice.
Ugh, to know now this was Dallas's latest Super Bowl it frustrates me to no end. I was not even 4 years old when Dallas won Super Bowl XXX. My dad has the 3 Super Bowl wins in the 90s for Dallas on VHS, but yeah. I was too young to remember any of Dallas's Super Bowl wins in the early 90s.
Its not easy to see your favorite team not make it to a championship. I was fortunate to see both the Detroit Tigers, and Red Wings win (and with the Wings many times) I saw my Second Favorite NFL team, the Arizona Cardinals get to SB XLIII and if it was not for a frantic last minute drive by "Big Ben". But that is for "What if's" and other paltitudes. But my Favorite NFL team (Lions) have never been to the Super Bowl, and most likely never will. Closest was back in 91-92 when Barry Sanders was at the peak of his prowess. Be happy you have the tapes and can go back and see your team in greatness. As for long suffering Lions fans. That is something they might never have. Just food for thought! ;-)
Corrected for correct SB the Cardinals palyed in, Thats what I get for working on my SB XLII and SB XLIX template! ;-)
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Super Bowl XXX: January 28, 1996. Sun Devil Stadium, Tempe, Arizona
Dallas Cowboys - 27 Pittsburgh Steelers - 17
I've got Super Bowl XXX on VHS (it was painful to watch) so I was able to perfect the helmets.
Awesome, looks just like the field at Sun Devil Stadium! ;-)
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Yea you got it right. A video I have seen on you tube for SB XXX, has the on helmet bar a bit closer to the edge, But the cage looks spot on! :-D
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You got it about right. Pics I have on the net show the facemask to be a much thinner version of what the "modern" cage mask is for more current helmets (pre-edge and newer models) I am tring to get a pic off the NFL films video about SB XXX that gives a tighter look at the helmets!
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After all the work I had to do for this field, I think I will be taking a little break. I should definitely have XXX done before I head back to school, and my goal is to get through XXXII by then.
Yea SB XXIX was a nightmare. A mismashed set of "goof's" and a poor design due to the 75 season. I would have done the NFL shield, and the SB logos at mid field and the 75th Season logo in the endzone. I think that would have been better!
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the last of the "classic" Super Bowl fields
I always think of XXX the last of the "Classic" fields. Although they changed the helmets to a modern 4 bar face mask, the general look was the same as many of the past fields, unlike the many changes that took place for XXXI. Plus XXX had a classic match-up between the Steelers and Cowboys.
Yep. That the only super bowl I ever was close to getting into. I had litterly just got back from the US Army a year or so earlier, and had worked part time hawking at Sun Devil Stadium. I did not last long as I got my first post Army job at a local Frys Grocery store as a cashier and was attending Glendale (AZ) Community College, and just began my carrer umpiring High School sports. Though I did get involved volunteering for the NFL Experience. And continued with SB XLII at Universtity of Phoeinx Stadium, and plan to continue to do so this year for SB XLiX.
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Sterling Sharpe's first Packers press conference in 1988. He wore 2 in college, so no idea why they gave him 43.
The NFL had a cut and dry numbering system by posistion. Unlike the NCAA which was more "fexable". The NFL adoped the "Exception Rule" about a decade or so ago. So Sterling never got the chance to wear the number he wore in college.
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if I recall correctly Super Bowl 27 was supposed to be in Tempe AZ, but the NFL moved it due to a lack of Arizona celebrating MLK day at the time.
Correct. though I wonder if that was the reason the logos had rhat blue field around them. Or a possible mis painted or repainted area.
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i live in Glendale (actualy a small slice of Phoenix that butts up to Glendale) and I can actually see UofP stadium from my subdivision. The roof is usualy closed most of the time, but I would have to say from October through the end of the season the roof is usally open. Depends on the Cardinals wishes. Though the stadium is much louder with the roof closed (and it is more like a "sun roof" than a full roof anyway!)
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Super Bowl XXIV: January 28, 1990. Louisiana Super Dome, New Orleans, Louisiana
San Francisco 49ers - 55 Denver Broncos - 10
There was a slight modification to the Super Bowl logo for this field, being the removal of the white within the numerals. Also the AFC and NFC logos where changed slightly.
I always wondered why they made that change with the AFC and NFC logos. It looked odd, but I guess they wanted the logo to be "Distintive" from the helmet.
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This was the first SB I saw via AFN (Armed Forces Network) while stationed in Germany. A great game, a great rematch between teams. And a thrilling ending.
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Unfortunately that picture never existed. I made the cake for a SB party (Just the endzones and NFL logo) at the Hospitality House operated by a Christian organization, to give Soldiers an option on the weekends, other than the barracks. And then ended up pulling duty (Batallion driver) as every other authorized driver in my Unit got massively drunk (read as absolutely "Sloberknockered" or other "Colorful Metafores!") that weekend (happens when your a Corporal and a Chaplains Assistant). And because of my chapel duties I did not drink. I ended doing a lot a lot of extra weekend "duty" though being a Corporal. So, sadly I never got a piece of the cake or a picture of it.
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Ironicaly I started getting interested in the design of NFL fields and the Super Bowl. As I was making a Super Bowl Cake for SB XXII (as I was stationed in Schweinfut Germany with the US Army) I got a book called "The Illistrated Rules of the NFL" which had the first copy of the NFL field diagram I ever saw. The cake did not turn out so hot, but I used grass green crape paper, colored pencils, and a very good mechanical draftsman ruller to make a really good copy of the fields for SB XXII and SB XIII. And thus a hobby was born!
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Yea, Same here. I remember this SB as I was staioned at Fort Ord (Monterey, CA). I actualy worked (Moonlighted) at an Official Jersey and Sports store in Carmel, CA It was nuts! And yes the original bid was for "The Stick" and the stadium was very sub-standard. Though they did play SB XXX at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, AZ. Though about comperable to the Rose Bowl and Stanford Stadium at the time. It was a much location than the stadiums of today (like Sun Devil Stadium's replacement for the Cardinals. The University of Phoeninx Stadium, Home to SB XLII and XLIX).
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Yeah, the old Pats workmark was a tremendus mess of lines colors and wield shading. All in all a "Classic" logo from the past!
I just finished it up and I think its looking nice, so I figured I'd give a preview of what I got. This ended up being a pain to clean up and took me a few attempts but in the end I think it turned out real nice.
Patriots normal wordmark for the era
Patriots modified wordmark for Super Bowl XX
AWESOME! :-D
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Yeah, the old Pats workmark was a tremendus mess of lines colors and wield shading. All in all a "Classic" logo from the past!
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I just noticed on the SB XVIII field. There was a darker green "box" around the NFL shield on the 50 yard line.
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Well as far as the Redskins Super Bowl history. The NFL has always used the "Secondary" ggold/yellow color, as the "primary" maroon is also the color of thier helmet. Another example of that in the past was Philly back in SB XV. They used a silver "secondary" color instead of the "primary" green of thier uniforms and helmet. Now in the future it's hard to say. The Eagles had a green endzone back in SB XXXVIII. So only time will tell! ;-)
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As far as i can tell the numbers look good. I found a video on youtube that was taped from the NBC broadcast. Showing Riggins run in the 4th quarter. Got good views of the 50 the 40 and part of the 30 on that shot! http://wn.com/super_bowl_xvii
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I have really good pics of the playing surface that was the final one used (from 92 and before they moved to Ford Field). And that surface has no gaps in the numbers.
Super Bowl Field Database - Super Bowl LVIII
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Real Quick question, as you get closer to the Super Bowl games that have decorations for the team boxes. Are you planing to add those to the fields, or leave them off? If that is the case I have the duplicate profile, and I can add them after the fact, so it will not disrupt your computer program.