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I thought the new unis were supposed to have fir trees?? Just another disposable fashion/promo uni in a series of many that belong outside the court that this City program is.

It’s a basketball.

If we're going that deep, the orange spikes in the streak are just a speed trail of color left behind by the streaking ball. The spikes surrounding the ball is the actual "shine" which is the rays. Just to make it clear.

The rays that were talked about were the ones surrounding the ball on the new jerseys in particular, not the actual streak/tail you are referring to.

Well, on it's own it's really not an argument, since it's normal for NBA teams to have basketballs in their logo package that are rendered in one of their colors. But, as one of several essential arguments supporting this case, it is obvious.

I see and completely agree with that thought process that you displayed regarding the logic of the elements of the uniform. Only that the bottom-line of my point was, that any possible downside with using an orange ball in this design was so meaningless, that it is barely a decision you make in favor of a more suitable solution when designing for a specific case with certain context in mind, and scrap the other less suitable options in the process, even if some happen to be objectively somewhat better in a vacuum.

The ray spikes surrounding the ball are indeed purple (with an orange outline), but that doesn't stop from nor create any visual mismatch for the ball to be orange consistently with their brand. Especially, as said before: 1) Orange is the team and logo color 2) Sun has been portrayed orange in their identity and is literally associated with that color in general 3) Basketball, which the streaking object literally is, is orange. I really can't believe it is being seriously discussed here what color the sun actually is in reality...

The idea of the white ball balancing out the wordmark applies to the white jersey even more. But, since the design is being considered for the Suns, I’d say you go with the orange ball despite of it being at a small disadvantage between the two options, which is a rather meaningless difference in this case anyway. Having the color be consistent to the brand is of bigger priority. What comes to the options #3, I find them too right side heavy with the graphics, so they don’t really work.

I see where you are coming from, and what I meant to imply was focusing on the idea of centering the wordmark in general. Yes, the first pic with the actual design looks most balanced out of the three, if you compare side by side. But with the white ball being such an egregious misstep, and the offset of the middle version being so minimal to the degree of it being irrelevant for the reasons I mentioned above – going with the orange ball is a no-brainer.

I don't see the issue existing with the Suns' wordmark having to be "balanced out" with a white ball. The wordmark is fixed inside a slanted graphic that goes across the entire chest. There's not that much importance for it to be aligned rigorously at the centerline.

They also have their orange partial streaking sun logo on the waistband, which creates inconsistency. It's a fundamental thing to use a similar graphic throughout the identity. And in this case it's so obvious the white ball was a choice to stray away from resembling the original streaking sun unis too much, something that has already been done with other teams. It seems they are totally willing to do that at the expense of the visual quality of the outcome.

The ball being white sticks out as a problem even more in practice. It leaves the uniform without enough orange and with a feeling of uncolored (unfinished) elements.

Not feeling the white ball either. What are the chances they are making these inferior design decisions, along with some other unis that were inspired by a previous classic design, to be clearly distinguishable from it, and not lose the opportunity to still have the original classic design sell separately? I'm very positive that's the reason.

The collar and arm trim needs a gold (outer) stripe too.

I loved the court they made for those too, and that second alternate uni, even though there should've been some more elements left black. The first uni, black one, felt like an afterthought with what came across as some existing script font just slapped on the jersey. Bad it wasn't, though. But all that, as said previously, for occasional use.

Fiesta doesn’t do it to me, I see it as an occasional one-off a la Miami Vice. Interesting per se, but too disconnected and not a colorway I’d like to have for a permanent look.

I, on the other hand, liked the font change fresh up, since Eurostile was already getting to feel dated. The colors just lack that something to me, and the metallic gold would fit like a glove as that missing piece.

Speaking of black, silver, and gold – I liked how the Spurs' 50th anniversary addition of metallic gold to the respective logo and the court meshed with the existing colors, and would definitely be for adding it to their scheme on par with silver. As it is, their brand and uniforms always feel underwhelming to me, even though the graphic package is solid.

It's just that they use it in the most dull way. They either don't stick to the properly-colored alternates, or mess up the design of the ones they currently have. At one point in the 00s–10s half the league was red. This time around the color that should be diminished is black, it's the same situation. Clippers and Magic are ones who have no business being primarily black, for instance.

It's up to 10 fouls in a summer league game.

The new Kings' scripts are well crafted, and even though of all teams it wasn't them who really needed a script wordmark (as opposed to the Clippers), it fits them great. The new uni design and template works just perfectly, only that they laid an egg on the white jersey with its predominant use of black – the wordmark, number, and trim. Especially when it blends visually with the purple stripe on the trim and appears just as an even larger splotch of black. Should've switched the black's and the purple's places on the collar and trim, to match the shorts, and made either the wordmark or the number purple, or both. Another remark is the away uni made black instead of purple, but as has been said, I guess I can live with it in this case, since the design and the color distribution on it are so all-around flawless. If only the third purple uni we got wasn't such trash.

Neither ones are very good.

Carmelo Anthony

Ah, my bad. True, and these new uniform designations is what's screwed up.

Not really correct, the Lakers wore their home uniforms on the road.