DustDevil61

what makes you say that? A little late to reply, but it may have been a bit an over-reaction of mine to the 2 or so posters that had acted like everything was sealed and delivered. This thing has lasted so long that I can't let my mood swing by every bit going on with Glendale, the Coyotes, and the NHL. That Goldwater-leaving-Glendale-alone was meant to be sarcastic. Continuting off the "Clown College" bit...this is fitting, too:

So, it's over, right? Judging by the last couple reactions, sounds like Goldwater is leaving the CoG alone. No need to lose hope yet. The fight's just starting, and it looks to be one well worth watching.

How the hell can they justify that? Property and sales tax hikes while they're pissing money away to a hockey team that shouldn't be there? Wonder how long the current council will be in place until they're voted out. I don't know, but...maybe until November? I thought I heard something along that timeline (general election and so on...).

The Predators ownership did their best work in becoming profitable, by getting an additional break from the state the city did not know about after the city redid the arena lease. Well, that's a bummer. Gotta love lawyers and those that write these kinds of things. Guess it's now a lesser-of-two-evils kind of thing.

I find it interesting that it's looking more likely that the biggest southern-market failure (Phoenix) will be facing what looks, at least more recently, like a southern-market success story (Nashville) next round. I guess that solidifies my Preds bandwagoning stance this NHL playoff season.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Asbestos-Investigation-Nassau-Coliseum-Islanders-Long-Island.html You know what? I think I know how that asbestos got there... ...but he won't tell you that.

Josh Howard, sans headband; Ty Corbin following after Jerry Sloan in enforcing the policy.

I may have posted on this before, but for Oklahoma State's current set, I love the gray: They could darken it by a shade, and maybe they could use it a little less (I'd like to see White helmet/Orange Jersey/Gray Pants or Black/Gray/Black, for example), but all the colors balance out well on the helmet, jersey, and pants. It's unique to Div. I football (except for Washington State, as far as I can tell, also pictured):

Agreed. I think this is the best the Sonics have looked. While the original arching uniforms were good, I never liked that bland "Sonics" font--it always looked too plain and it shouldn't simply be brought back full-time (if and when the the Sonics return someday): The late 90s look had a logo/script that was too big on the uniform and, while red was a nice addition to the color scheme, was featured too predominantly, IMO: The last set Seattle wore was a good update on the original arching uniforms, with its unique, bifurcated (similar to what Memphis has had) "Sonics" and "Seattle" font. The only thing I'd like to see them try (if and when the they return) is to get an arch on the back, with the player name inside.

I wonder what happened with that so-called "deadline" from Bettman and the BoG last Thursday (I think).

I've had a thought, and it's a bit of a crazy thought...but I have this idea with the Coyotes in financially dire straits and a looming NBA lockout in mind. Could it be a smart move to let the Coyotes play a handful of home games in hockey-capable, primarily-NBA buildings? Places that come to mind for me are Portland, Houston, Milwaukee, Salt Lake, and Oklahoma City. The rarity of an NHL game in those places, combined with no NBA action, would virtually guarantee a sellout in any of those places.

I named the original thread, so, hey, there's a possibility...

How long did we go without mentioning Deron Williams?

I've remembered that Birmingham (AL) was a potential NFL relocation site in the late 1970s, so it could work. Omaha might, as well; are you basing this on the support the UFL's Nighthawks are getting? If Omaha has a chance for an NFL team, then Salt Lake would, too (in terms of size), as SLC's metro area is a bit larger than Omaha's (1.1 Million to 850,000), without including Provo/Orem and Ogden. Are there any areas that aren't considered part of the Omaha/Council Bluffs metro area nearby that I'm missing?

With a team that cold have a losing record getting into the playoffs (Seattle), the idea of going back to 3-division conferences doesn't sound like such a bad idea. Here's how I would handle it, though--3 divisions in both conferences, 2 with 5 teams, one with 6 teams, each. Teams essentially changing divisions are in bold (as I'd be using "base divisions," such as the NFC East or the AFC North; the AFC and NFC Souths are dissolved). National Football League American Football Conference AFC East (Based off of currenct AFC East) --Buffalo --Indianapolis (from AFC South) --Jacksonville (from AFC South) --Miami --New England --New York Jets AFC Central (Basd off of current AFC North) --Baltimore --Cincinnatti --Cleveland --Pittsburgh --Tennessee (From AFC South) AFC West --Denver --Houston (from AFC South) --Kansas City --Oakland --San Diego National Football Conference NFC East --Carolina (from NFC South) --Dallas --New York Giants --Philadelphia --Washington NFC Central (based off of NFC North) --Chicago --Detroit --Green Bay --Minnesota --Tampa Bay (from NFC South) NFC West --Arizona --Atlanta (from NFC South) --New Orleans (from NFC South) --St. Louis --San Francisco --Seattle Here, I wouldn't want to break up the Titans/Texans or the Panthers/Buccaneers rivalries, but I do like returning the Colts to the AFC East and moving the Jaguars there, where they'd be in the same division as the nearby Dolphins and would remain division rivals to the Colts. While not making a whole lot of sense, it would seem best to send the Falcons and Saints back to the NFC West, where they were before 2002. The Texans going to the AFC West would give a closer divisional team to the Chiefs. The Panthers would be an NFC East team if the Cowboys weren't rivals with the Eagles, Giants, and Redskins, so I figure that they'd do best there. Here's another NFC scenario: National Football Conference NFC East --Carolina (from NFC South) --Dallas --New York Giants --Philadelphia --Tampa Bay (from NFC South) --Washington NFC Central (based off of NFC North) --Chicago --Detroit --Green Bay --Minnesota --St. Louis (from NFC West) NFC West --Arizona --Atlanta (from NFC South) --New Orleans (from NFC South) --San Francisco --Seattle The main reason for this is that the NFC Central would be an excellent division, regionally speaking; the only problem here is that the NFC West would stretch all the way from Seattle to Atlanta with no team inbetween (St. Louis). Tampa Bay would remain in the same division as Carolina here. Which scenario is better?

Well, in the NBA, with all the Hornets-to-Seattle discussion, here's what a Hornets-to-Seattle scenario would look like (just the Western Conference in both cases; relocating teams are underlined, teams just changing divisions are colored and bolded): Western Conference Pacific Division --Golden State --LA Clippers --LA Lakers --Phoenix --Sacramento Southwest Division --Dallas --Houston --Memphis --Oklahoma City (from Northwest Division) --San Antonio Northwest Division --Denver --Minnesota --Portland --Seattle (from New Orleans and Southwest Division) --Utah Of course, this would be if other possible relocatees (Memphis, Minnesota, Sacramento, etc.) stayed put. It's that simple. In the event of a Kings-back-to-Kansas City situation coupled with a Hornets-to-Seattle scenario, the West could end up looking like this: Western Conference Pacific Division --Golden State --LA Clippers --LA Lakers --Portland (from Northwest/Midwest Division) --Seattle (from New Orleans and Southwest Division) Southwest Division --Dallas --Houston --Memphis --Phoenix (from Pacific Division) --San Antonio Midwest Division (formerly Northwest Division) --Denver --Minnesota --Kansas City (from Sacramento and Pacific Division) --Oklahoma City --Utah This is another interesting option--as it would put the Suns in the same division as the Spurs, while the lowly Timberwolves would not be as far from other teams in the new Midwest division. Seattle and Portland would go together into the Pacific, replacing the moving Kings and the Suns, renewing some of the old rivalries with the remaining California teams. What seems to be a new rivalry between Utah and Oklahoma City would also be maintained in the new Midwest. Of course, I don't know how long the Suns have been in the same division as the California teams, but it would seem to make sense to put them in with the Texas teams and the Grizzlies. Thoughts?

Hey-oooooh! Post of the day, perhaps?

Besides orange/brown/orange, I really liked the orange/white/orange Browns look. I also like the all-white look of the Browns. Those Eagles yellow/sky blue uniforms were pretty good, as well.

While not my favorite, it's great.

Some more: --Those lime green Seattle Seahawks alternates. If only they wore white pants with those. --The shoulder yoke on the Tennessee Titans, especially with the white roads and light blue pants: --Chicago Bears orange alternates. --Denver Broncos orange alternates. --Cleveland Browns (now defunct) orange alternates. --Brown/orange look for late 80s Padres is better than the initial MLB look (gold/brown). --Houston Astros mid-1990s blue/gold look (though navy/orange are best colors, and current star is best), they pretty much nailed the script: --If you haven't noticed before, teal and gold can and do look together, as seen by mentioning the Sharks' current and Hornets' alternates.

Here are some of mine that I like: --San Francisco Giants' current orange alts. (hoping for A's yellow-gold next year; let's hope they go all yellow-gold, hat and pants included) --Utah Jazz 1996-2003 Mountain look, for the most part (My guilty pleasure, won't ever be worn again soon, but the home whites and mountains on the pants made it for me) --Utah Jazz 2004-2010 Boozer-era (can you call it that?) blue-on-blue scheme (navy-on-sky) and home uniforms (though excited for the new green/navy/yellow-gold look) --Black "V" Vancouver Canucks jerseys, as well as the yellow ones with the "Canucks" crest on it that came immediately after. --New Orleans Hornets initial look in the Big Easy, especially the yellow-gold alts: --Though I hate the logo, the OKC Thunder's home uniforms are great, and their roads aren't so bad. Orange and light blue, who'd of thunk it? The light blue roads actually make sense, being the primary color in the Oklahoma state flag. The only problem with the roads is that about half the league already wears some kind of blue; on their own they are good. Colorwise, I'd only drop the navy blue and gold and replace it with a dark gray. --Late 90's Sonics color scheme (not too hot on the logo) of green/yellow-gold/brick red --San Jose Sharks post-Edge look (with the orange-gold) --Late Vancouver/early Memphis Grizzlies black/teal/red look (before the navy/light blue/yellow-gold makeover): --Black/purple/silver Sacramento Kings look (it was their best years in recent memory) --First few years in Dallas, Stars look (home white); love the green and black:

Here's a little thought I had--what if the Clippers did move to Seattle? (Not that it's going to happen--it makes too much sense). How would the NBA's Western Conference look like then? Here's what I thought: Northwest Division Denver Nuggets Minnesota Timberwolves Portland Trailblazers Seattle Supersonics (formerly the LA Clippers) Utah Jazz Southwest Division Dallas Mavericks Houston Rockets Memphis Grizzlies New Orleans Hornets Oklahoma City Thunder Pacific Division Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Lakers Phoenix Suns Sacramento Kings San Antonio Spurs My reasoning for the Spurs being in the Pacific Division is that some of their biggest out-of-division rivals are Phoenix and the Lakers, though I wouldn't exactly like to see the Texas teams split up. Some other ideas of mine: Blow up the current Northwest Division and go with a "new Midwest division": Midwest Division: Denver Nuggets Houston Rockets San Antonio Spurs Minnesota Timberwolves Utah Jazz Pacific Division: Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Lakers Portland Trailblazers Sacramento Kings Seattle Supersonics (former LA Clippers) Southwest Divison: Dallas Mavricks Memphis Grizzlies New Orleans Hornets Oklahoma City Thunder Phoenix Suns Or, how about this: Midwest Division: Denver Nuggets Oklahoma City Thunder Phoenix Suns San Antonio Spurs Utah Jazz Great River Division: Dallas Mavericks Houston Rockets Memphis Grizzlies Minnesota Timberwolves New Orleans Hornets Pacific Division: Golden State Warriors Los Angeles Lakers Portland Trailblazers Sacramento Kings Seattle Supersonics (former LA Clippers) "Great River" obviously referring to the Mississippi River, of course. However, things would be made far simpler to see the Grizzlies move to Seattle or back to Vancouver, then you could simply swap them and Oklahoma City.

MLB, if the A's and Rays pull up stakes: AL East: Boston NY Yankees Baltimore Toronto Indianapolis Arrows (formerly the Rays) AL Central: Detroit Chicago White Sox Cleveland Milwaukee Minnesota AL West: LA Angels Seattle Kansas City Las Vegas, Portland, Sacramento, or Utah A's Texas NL East: NY Mets Philadelphia Washington Florida Atlanta NL Central: St. Louis Chicago Cubs Houston Pittsburgh Cincinatti NL West: Colorado Arizona San Francisco San Diego LA Dodgers Disregarding the odd-numbered leagues and keeping rivalries (Rays/Arrows with Red Sox and Yankees) intact.

The irony that is found in that picture!