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Has this been posted in this thread? If it has, I missed it. ——— Florida finally fixed the stripe on their orange pants. I hope this means they also fixed the orange jersey so the stripe is consistent from head to toe. The Gators used to have the proper stripe on the pants. However, when they added an orange jersey, they broke continuity from the master stripe. So the pants matched the helmet but the orange jersey was a recolored version of their blue jersey. Florida then double down with their master stripe mayhem. Instead of just fixing the jersey, they changed the orange pants to match the orange jersey stripe. Hopefully this means Florida will have a consistent stripe across all garments, regardless of color.

That part makes sense. But it doesn’t make sense why there are two versions of the match worn shirt. Match worn sponsor is larger and intrudes into the outer stripes all the way to the pinstripe. Retail authentic has smaller sponsor with full outer stripes:

Now I am confused. I have seen multiple images with the Team Viewer ad applied as a direct heat press with the stripes intentionally broken off as part of the adidas design. I have also seen multiple images with the ad as one big patch applied over the stripes.

I noticed a weird discrepancy with this kit. The retail authentic shirt (shown in two photos above) places the sponsor over only the two middle stripes. However, the shirt that United just wore in a match is different. Their shirts use an even wider sponsor area which cuts into part of the outer stripes (but not the full stripe, the sponsorship area stops at the thin pinstripe within the stripe). The retail shirt looks much better.

Assumed it would be the case, but retail leak confirms Alabama will upgrade templates. This company also has retail products in the new template available for a few schools that have already been confirmed, but you may be able to find some others that are so far unknown.

Thank you. Someone had to say it. This thread becomes absolutely useless with post after post about why someone thinks “the Chargers will wear their yellow pants against the Raiders because they have worn white pants against them the last five years” and they think “this will finally be the year they break the streak and change things up.” If there’s news, post it. If a team introduces a new uniform element, post it. If not, we don’t need pages of mindless speculation with about as much basis in fact as TheSoundOfThrowingPennies.

It may have to do with their attempt to wear the throwbacks three times. Their article stated “The Titans will wear the uniforms in two games this fall, both at home. The organization inquired about wearing them for a road game in Miami as well, but it doesn't appear that will come to fruition.” Perhaps they aren’t totally eliminating it from their set but just means they won’t wear the regular light blue this year. Maybe they are trying to find a third game to wear them in or already stated their intentions to the NFL, which would prohibit them from wearing another alt since you can only wear alts 3 times all season.

Denver looks nothing like Auburn whatsoever, besides having the same colors. But sure, dude! ——— This is another example of the stupid NFL rules ruining a decent uniform (others that come to mind are the Saints color rush with black helmet and the Lions gray uniform with blue helmet, though the Lions had a crappy uniform made even worse). I imagined the Broncos would wear white helmets on the road for all all white look. Never did it cross my mind that they’d tank their best design and try to put a square peg into a round hole like they’ve done here.

New template for Michigan (#9 is wearing the old template, however):

The current Seahawks uniform could be good but it’s a classic case of when the designers don’t know when to stop. A few too many design elements detract from what could have been. If it were me, I’d strip the pattern off the helmet and numbers (it’s currently used in too many different applications, use it only around the collar and pant stripe), find a better number font, minimize the sleeve pattern to just the sleeve caps and take away the stripes across the upper chest.

I agree this is a good start, but I would also revert the halo from silver to gold. Their anniversary season where they did this made the look a lot better.

The gray Ohio State set looks very good and doesn’t feel forced, unlike a lot of alternates these days. A solid addition. ——— First look at Georgia’s new white jerseys. We only saw the new red jerseys in the CFP. Also, you’ll notice there’s a box in the back labeled “FA23 Black.” That means they will at least have them on hand. Whether they are worn or not is a different story. Georgia only wore black on the old template with the thick toilet seat collar and then the special 2020 alternate with the dog collar. Despite having the Vapor Untouchable template in both the Bulldog Bold and the 2021 block numbers, neither model was worn besides spring games.

I don’t see as much of an issue with the name as I do with the uniforms. The name seems relatively harmless. It’s just difficult with these historical franchises with decades of history. Nothing would ever resonate quite like the original nickname because it feels artificial. From that perspective, anything they choose will have folks that dislike it. If they can clean up the uniforms and make them more cohesive (also wear the right combinations), then it’s a step in the right direction. But at some point, they just need to own an identity and build some history. Another change will just reset the feeling of unfamiliarity. Redsk*ns to WFT to Commanders to some unknown name all within a decade is just unbecoming of an NFL team.

Never forget all of this was made possible by adding black to the color scheme by making the radical change to their away uniform. Damn you black swoosh.

I view that situation a bit differently since they had to recreate their entire brand from the ground up. Doesn’t mean the Commanders executed it well, but I can see how it happened. No excuse for the Colts here.

These are horrible. Completely unnecessary and feel like a big departure from the Colts brand by shoehorning in black. I know the last 8-10 years have seen an increase in bad uniform trends (Color Rush, lack of contrasting socks), but this feels like the next big step in changes to NFL uniforms. To this point, teams still operated within their set of home, away, alternates, and throwbacks. Alternates to this point have largely been color swaps of their primary uniforms, so despite being different colors, they still felt familiar and used the same helmet. This alternate has jumped the shark. This is the day when the NFL opened the flood gates and alternates are now fair game to create with an open canvas, for good or bad.

Mississippi State made a mistake dropping the block M/State logo. It was easily identifiable. The gray separated them from several other teams. I never liked the chest wordmark but it was their thing. The script helmet is too generic. I feel like one or two of these changes could have worked, but making all of these changes at once is too much. ——— A couple template updates: Tennessee: hopefully the Vols will relocate the SEC patch to its rightful spot opposite the swoosh. The last couple years, it was above the swoosh due to two other patches in 2020. When they removed the extra patches in 2021, they never placed the conference patch back in its usual location. LSU: LSU opted for the flat chest seam instead of the deep V. That may be the default cut if shoulder stripes are used. I feel LSU would look better without the contrasting cuffs. They should also match their pants stripes to their helmet stripes (the pants have thin subtle yellow stripes between the purple and white). Another Ohio State gray alternate teaser:

Cal looks almost identical to their Under Armour set, which was pretty good. For a BSN/Nike deal, that’s great. Hopefully this is indicative of what that partnership can accomplish for other teams, and less so what we saw from Cincinnati. Cal appears to be going back to a gloss helmet instead of the satin they’ve worn from the last few years.

He here is a better look at Cincinnati. This looks like a catalog order.

The league needs to change its rules. The alternate helmets (if they are going to stick around, and we all know they will) should be allowed with any uniform that the team selects, instead of being pigeon holed by some weird requirements from the league. It would stop the stupid combinations like the Saints black helmet with their Color Rush and the Lions blue helmet with their gray set. Somehow, the Panthers found a workaround but it feels like the rules are being applied inconsistently.

I think this template is giving teams problems. The Jumpman and SEC patches are too high and pushed too far towards the armpits. Georgia wore the manufacturer logo and SEC patch (placed in the same area as the Gator logo) on the new template basically in the same positioning as the old Vapor Untouchable template. Both patches are slightly higher than the G collar logo, but are centered roughly where the new mesh collar comes to a point. Florida looks roughly a half inch, maybe a full inch higher. You can also tell the patches are higher because Georgia stitched the SEC patch over the V seam while Florida’s Gator patch is entirely above the seam. Compare that to Ohio State, who placed the swoosh right on the edge of the V seam and chose not to embroider the B1G patch over the seam and instead stitched it a couple inches higher, creating a misalignment with the swoosh. I have wondered the last couple years if teams apply their own swooshes and Jumpman logos because we have seen inconsistencies with the diamond CFP Nike patches. This UF jersey only adds fuels to the fire for me on that theory. Side note - have Florida’s numbers application always been that simple? They’ve had that custom font for maybe 8-10 years but I always thought they used multiple stitched layers. Those photos make it look like the numbers are sublimated onto a single layer.

Weird development in Seattle where All Star Kenley Jansen has been spotted with a screen printed Mass Mutual sleeve patch. Boston (and I believe every other team with a sleeve sponsor) always has a stitched patch.

Nothing new, but still interesting: Dawg Nation (part of the Atlanta Journal Constitution) did a deep dive on Georgia uniforms over the years, including various tweaks, alternates, and prototypes that were never worn. They also speculate a bit about the often worn white helmet seen on recruiting visits. https://www.dawgnation.com/junkyard-blawg/alternate-dawgs-uniforms/FG2LNM7Y2VENLODOJS2SW6KIGU/ ——— As a Georgia guy, I like that we remain true to our classics, but still wish we would add variety a couple times per year. People know Georgia for its red helmet, red and white jerseys, and silver pants. But the fact remains Georgia’s colors are not just red, but red and black. All other Georgia teams embrace black. Some alternates and tweaks over the years have been less traditional, but there are plenty of alternates that are still “classic Georgia” looks. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say Georgia’s black is one of the best alternates in all of college football. They introduced it at a time (2007) before alts became a craze in the sport and it was seen as a special event. It also helps that they wear it with their usual helmet and pants, unlike many teams that wear matching black helmets and pants. I view these similar to Notre Dame’s green jerseys: an elite alternate when worn with the right combination. Red pants on the road is a classic look and should be worn more. Not all the time, but at least once or twice per year. The 1980 throwback worn in 2020 was beautiful. The pants had a super wide white stripe flanked by thin black stripes. This could work in the modern era with some minor tweaks. Red pants with a thin white stripe to mirror the helmet would look great and pair well with their regular white jersey. Recruits have worn white helmets and pants and I think it’s a fun look that could be done once a year. The helmet stripe uses the same design as the silver britches, so it still feels familiar, despite being a new idea. Silver helmets could work and have been worn before. I have long advocated for a silver helmet that uses the same stripe as the white helmet above. The helmet would pair perfectly with the silver pants. I envision that being only worn on the road, though. As another option, the team could introduce plain silver helmets (block G) and pants with a plain red jersey as a throwback look. There are ways for Georgia to add some variety without becoming another Oregon. Look at Florida. They have orange, white, and blue jerseys and pants in various combinations that are all seen as “classic Gators.” I would wear the regular uniforms 8-9 times per year and alternates 3-4 times. I think that would please both the traditionalists and fans open to change. I don’t want to see wild combinations such as paring red and black jerseys and pants, but a little variety would be nice. ——— I built this site a couple years ago as a way to play around with various ideas. https://andrewwagner.wixsite.com/georgiauniforms

Gold numbers on a white uniform can work ok for basketball. It’s not ideal but still works fine because the game is played within a small space with only ten players on the court. The TV cameras are fairly zoomed in and it’s played in an indoor venue. It doesn’t work for football because there are too many bodies on the field, natural lighting with the sun makes it difficult to read numbers, and it’s played within massive venues with 3-4 times the crowds of basketball. ——— Texas is updating its template. They would have been a great candidate for the Vapor FUSE with the horizontal seam instead of the deep V seam. The seam is pushing the wordmark down quite a bit. Otherwise, the uniforms are the same (including the recent changes to drop the collar logo and the TV numbers). Better photos are on Instagram. Not sure if this will embed, but here’s the link. https://www.instagram.com/p/CuZpQPJM7La/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== One benefit of moving the wordmark down, though, is it will allow the SEC patch to fit when they change conferences next year. I wondered how’d they do it because their old template had the Big 12 patch right on top of the wordmark. I wondered if they’d be like Ohio State with the misaligned swoosh and Big 10 patch (though Ohio State had no reason to do this, besides maybe a preference not to embroider directly across the seam).

The way MLS and adidas handle third kits is stupid. I understand why they have a threshold of units sold to require thirds, but releasing them in the middle of the season is weird. Atlanta did the same thing in 2021 with their third kit and it was only worn a couple of times and did not carry over to the next season. I understand they want to stagger the releases so people buy more, but it’s still bizarre.