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I am NEVER going to buy a crappy replica for $80 or a slightly better authentic for $300

Then you're not entitled to own a jersey. Sorry, that's life.

When you see someone wearing a knock-off, whether it be at a game or on the street, do you go up to them and preach about how they are not entitled to own that jersey? Anyone else on here do that?

No, because I'm not the kind of annoying jackass who would go up to some random person on the street and preach at them. That doesn't change the fact that they're wrong for doing it.

Or you could grow up and realize that you're not entitled to own sports jerseys if you don't like the price.

I am NEVER going to buy a crappy replica for $80 or a slightly better authentic for $300

Then you're not entitled to own a jersey. Sorry, that's life.

You do not think I should own a fake jersey but I do, and you cannot stop me from doing this.

I may not be able to stop you from buying fakes, but your justifications are laughable. The only legal choices in the matter are to pay the prices that are deemed fair by the leagues and companies, or not buy a jersey at all. End of story.

I am NEVER going to buy a crappy replica for $80 or a slightly better authentic for $300

Then you're not entitled to own a jersey. Sorry, that's life.

I just don't see how you can possibly claim that you're not a troll. You signed up as "LoveTheFakes," post arrogant, condescending crap that shows you just don't get it, and you've never posted outside this thread. My troll radar is going off.

Wow, it's like they didn't even try.

Exactly. Coggs - how would you feel if people stopped buying memorabilia from you in droves because they decided eBay fakes were more cost effective? I bet you wouldn't be pleased.

I'd like to see how he dances around this one. I still can't comprehend how anybody could justify conterfeits.

Still no answer...

Exactly. Coggs - how would you feel if people stopped buying memorabilia from you in droves because they decided eBay fakes were more cost effective? I bet you wouldn't be pleased.

I know how to get that stuff at a discount, and yes it is all legit.

Suuuure.

More reading comprehension problems. I said earlier, I can afford to buy the "quality, licensed product", just choose not to.

How is it possible that you're perfectly willing to pay top dollar for expensive season tickets to the Giants, Rangers, and Mets, as well as buying authentic memorabilia from each team that doesn't come cheap, but you balk at even a $120 jersey?

I DID say there are some out there that are bad. I wouldn't buy that Tuck jersey you have pictured.

That's the "best" one I could find on Google. Most of them have numbers that are crooked along with being bubbly and shiny. They all have incorrect sleeve striping and number/NOB fonts.

In this case I CHOOSE to purchase the tickets I purchase.

Just like you CHOOSE to purchase counterfeit jerseys. That's not Reebok's fault.

The Giants jerseys I have bought on EBay look just as good as the idiots who pay $250+ on nfl.com

In your honest opinion, which one looks better and more like the real thing? The left one is an authentic and the one on the right is an average counterfeit.

You do realize that they make royalties off merchandise sales, right? And a free-market system doesn't function properly if people don't make money off their work and its exposure.

To answer your question, I wouldn't buy tickets to see pop warner

Why not? You'd get to see a football game for way cheaper than the NFL. Granted, the games wouldn't be nearly as fun to watch and you'd probably miss your season tickets at Meadowlands Stadium, but that's the NFL's fault for being such meanies and charging high prices for a top-of-the-line product, as opposed to yours for making the personal choice to trade those tickets in for Pop Warner. The nerve of Goodell!

Going slightly over the speed limit is not putting people's lives in danger, especially when other drivers around you are also likely going a tiny bit over the speed limit. Buying counterfeit jerseys puts the livelihoods of designers in danger. I'd say buying fakes has a more wide-reaching effect than going 1mph over the speed limit or jaywalking on an empty street.

as for your comment about me being cheap. Let's see, I have season tickets to the Giants and Rangers, and have had ticket plans for the Mets over the years.

Okay, here's a hypothetical for you. If a Pop Warner team in East Rutherford renamed themselves as the New York Giants and started selling tickets to their games, would you start going to those games instead of the NFL games? After all, you'd be seeing New York Giants football for cheaper, and quality doesn't matter as long as you're saving money, right?

Willing to bet you have done quite a few illegal things in your life.

Again, going 1mph over the speed limit or jaywalking on a road that's not busy or any other minor crime is hardly comparable to purchasing an illegal counterfeit jersey and funding the violation of copyright laws and intellectual-property rights. Furthermore, this thread isn't called "Thinking about doing anything wrong ever?" It's about counterfeit jerseys. The "everyone breaks the law during their lives" defense, therefore, is bullcrap.

2. I can afford to buy the $250 jersey, I just choose not to. I can also afford to spend $75 to get my haircut at some place a co-worker frequents, but I instead choose to go to a regular barber for $15.

The difference is, the cheaper barber is still legal, while the cheaper jerseys aren't.

If you can show me the starving designer of any of the jerseys I buy then I would be happy to stop.

It would take me all day to list the websites of just about every firm who has ever worked with a professional sports team.

Well, as a side, I believe drugs should be legal but regulated and taxed.

I completely agree. The War on Drugs has done more harm than good, and hasn't stopped anyone from doing drugs. But that's off-topic.

The point is, don't expect a good product if you're saving that much - quality comes with a price. And honestly, people who wear fakes around are complete posers in my book. Not to mention all the violations of intellectual property laws.

Nike's prices may have inadvertently opened up a market for counterfeits, but that does not excuse the personal choice to purchase them. The government's strict drug laws have produced a black market for drugs, but it's still illegal to possess them. How is this any different?

I blame the companies like Nike who pay ridiculous fees for the jersey rights and then expect the fans to cover their fees.

So it's Nike's fault that people choose to buy illegal counterfeits? Somehow I don't see that defense holding up in court.

Except the initial purchase is a crime in and of itself, dumbass.

I'm really starting to wonder if this is a previously-banned member coming back to with us. Say, LoveTheFakes, would you describe yourself as "culturally black"?

It's still you doing the purchasing.

So the feds are going to waste resources to locate me, arrest me, and prosecute me for owning about 5 fake jerseys.

I doubt the feds are going to go after someone who buys 50 jerseys a year. If they do then god bless them on their crusade.

How many is it - 5 or 50? You can't even get your story straight.