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Could be "T" for "Tennessee Knights" 

I think Portland is the one city that loses a team and doesn't get a replacement. 

I'm seeing Charlotte as the one new site for expansion. 

STL to Dallas, PRT to Boston, those are my guesses. 

You'd probably have to delete the feathers. And for sure reconsider the backwards "P"! 

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2 hours ago, WideRight said:

Got to say, the more I look at it, the more I dislike LA moving to the old LA Avengers logo.  Thinking about bringing something like this back and then, maybe, looking at a speed blue version of the helmet.  I know where they are headed for the late 2010-2020 period, so I want to try to get there in stages. 

 

 

 

Forgive me, I don't know how I triple quoted.

I like the LA too... Maybe demote the Avenger to just sleeves. 

It won't surprise me if we have more black helmets in this era, so TB seems ripe, even with just a white outline to the black logo (like the ATL Falcons).

I also wouldn't mind LA going to Speed Blue (like the Seahawks) before settling on the darker blue. 

Nah I like the "b". I think I've seen it before in another of your concepts. 

1 hour ago, heavybass said:

Correct and it's something that potentially might bring someone down.

If you turn this into a political thing, so help me...! 

1 hour ago, WideRight said:

Because despite many efforts I have not been able to develop something different that I actually like.   

How about the 2001 Lincoln Lightning of the IFL? 

2 hours ago, heavybass said:

Unleashing the new Silver Sky colour onto the world...

Didn't @WideRightdo this already? 

Houston? 

Nvm you said same colors, and my guess wasn't. 

I'd have been OK with a metallic gold helmet but this looks good too. 

I remember a lot of talk back then about Sacramento (the Surge in the WLAF, Gold Miners in the CFL and Mountain Lions in the UFL) and San Jose (where XFL Demons were originally going to be).

I'd say San Jose from among your options. 

I like C but it has no relation to a Wrangler. That said, I'd go with A. 

Did you get turned down on the other W? 

Always loved the looks in this league. I have that media guide downloaded somewhere! 

Maybe:

Oakland/San Jose/Sacramento 

Louisville

Oklahoma City

Do the Jax Bulls exist? How about giving us a rundown of the league members? 

7 hours ago, heavybass said:

Before we progress, I assume most of everyone is enjoying the Gamblers look?

I feel like the helmet logo needs a white keyline to make it stand out. Otherwise, looks great. 

43 minutes ago, heavybass said:

One year later and because Black Helmets are a bad idea in the desert, the team will eventually begin research into finding a black that is heat resistant allowing the team to play well in Nevada heat... of course it'll take time to find such a black.

Why not just go for silver? 

11 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said:

Let's hope that changes in 2023 and they are all in their real homes. USFL will not last long in a battle vs the XFL with 1 stadium especially if the XFL gets the fan support they had in 2020.

They've talked about playing in two markets next year, maybe four. 

I'm a fan of the CFL and several of these are clearly better than what they have right now (ahemcalgarybcottawamontreal). 

6 hours ago, WideRight said:

Nothing gets past this board.    Bingo.  Hoping to merge the  Gridiron Labs design with the original flaming brand design (one of my favorites).  

That would look great. 

6 hours ago, WideRight said:

Waiting to hear back on an email I sent to Gridiron Labs for permission to use one of their logos as a base for a USFL update. 

... Ooooh, Dallas Wranglers influence?? 

6 hours ago, Brave-Bird 08 said:

why in the world did the Bengals do this announcement without any photos of the helmet or uniform pairings? meh

Don't they know the rules on this board, no posting concepts without art?!