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  1. Ferdinand Cesarano
    This is a good point. I agree with this distinction, that there is a middle ground between a "right" and a "wrong" uniform. And I also agree that the "wrong" uniform is one which makes you say "whoa, when did that happen?" But Hank Aaron with the Brewers is not a good example of this. Aaron's return to Milwaukee with the Brewers was huge news, and it is a well-known part of his story. He was on an American League All-Star team; and every home run he hit with the Brewers was national news, as it set a new record. Aaron's stint with the Brewers does not compare with Piazza/Mariners, Thomas/A's, Killebrew/Royals, or any of the others that were truly forgettable footnotes to history. I would say that Aaron with the Brewers fits into that first category you identified: neither right nor wrong. Likewise Charlie Hough with the Marlins. He threw the first pitch in team history, and he was extensively interviewed in the leadup to the club's debut. So, while Hough's right uniform is the Dodgers uniform, the Marlins uniform is not wrong for him. Finally, in agreeing that the Wizards uniform is not wrong for Jordan (while not being right, either), I will go a step further and say that the same applies to his White Sox and Birmingham Barons uniforms. No one seeing pictures of him in those uniforms says "whoa, when did that happen?" Everyone knows he played for those teams, as there were few sports stories bigger at the time. So those uniforms, while not equal to his right uniform of the Bulls, fall into the intermediate neither-right-nor-wrong category.
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    Gary Carter in the latter-day Expos uniform.
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    Hmm. I had long believed that there were special uniforms for this game. But now I am doubting this. See this site for more. So, maybe Greenberg did indeed play in the game wearing a Yankee uniform.
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    Great shot! This is from the Giants' 1962 Old-Timers' Day. That Lombardi was in a Giant uniform illustrates the Giants' constant commitment to embracing their history. For Joe, that Giants road uniform was meant to stand in for the uniform of the San Francisco Seals. Here are all three DiMaggio brothers on that day -- but only Joe gets to wear the cap of his Major League team. Joe once played in a game -- an exhibition game -- wearing a Red Sox uniform. In September of 1946, after the conclusion of the regular season, the Red Sox held an exhibition game against a team of American League All-Stars in order to tune up for the World Series. But Joe's Yankee uniform didn't arrive, so he wore a Red Sox road uniform at Fenway Park. Another uniform error led to Hank Greenberg wearing a Yankee uniform, though not in a game. [Edit: he might indeed have worn it in an exhibition game.] In 1943, an exhibition game was held at the Polo Grounds between teams made up of various active and former players as a means to raise money for war bonds. The game itself had special uniforms [Edit: maybe not; see subsequent response]; but the previous day's practice was done in the players' own uniforms. Greenberg evidently didn't get the memo, and didn't bring his Tiger uniform. So people at the site cobbled together a Yankee uniform (strangely, not a Giant uniform in the Giants' own park -- a reflection of the relative status of the two clubs), and Greenberg wore that for the practice. This is broadly similar to Reggie Jackson wearing a Mariner uniform for the team picture at the 1979 All-Star Game in Seattle. A weird postscript to this story is that the above photo of Greenberg actually got him in trouble with the Tigers a few years later, leading to the end of his Tiger career. In the winter before the 1947 season, the Tigers' owner Walter Briggs saw that photo for the first time. There were rumours at the time that Greenberg, a New Yorker, wanted to finish his career with the Yankees. In light of this, Briggs, acting with a petulance and an abruptness that surpassed even Steinbrenner-esque levels, became enraged at the photo, and sold Greenberg to the Pirates.
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    New York Apples (World Team Tennis) AFC Bournemouth -- "the Cherries" Bakersfield Jam Denver Nuggets Kentucky ... Kernels?
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    I couldn't argue with that. There's no doubt that Reggie is an essential part of the A's and the Yankees. But he was with the A's for much longer; and he became a superstar with them, even if he took it to the next level with the Yankees. But the one thing that irks me about that shot: he's wearing the wrong number! He should have gone back to no. 9 upon his return to Oakland. It's good that the A's retired no. 9 in his honour.
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    Here's the reciprocal:
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    It's the perfect example of the Mandela effect - I bet 99 out of 100 baseball fans who remember that moment would think that he was wearing a front number when it happened. It looks incredibly strange to see that uniform sans front number, to the point that you can tell something is wrong, but can't quite put your finger on it (until realizing what it is). On that "Mandela effect" thing -- the stupid people who think that Mandela died in prison have to somehow have overlooked this iconic moment:
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    The Cardinals will always look wrong without the front number. Unfortunately, they had the numberless front during two seasons in which players of theirs had great performances, 1980 and 1998. I think that many people adjust their memories so that they "remember" those players in those pivotal years wearing the more typical uniform.
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    When we think of Norm Snead as a Giant, we think of him in Yankee Stadium or the Yale Bowl, wearing the traditional uniform. We do not think of him in Giants Stadium wearing the set that would become associated with Simms and LT (minus the white helmet stripes). But he was reacquired in 1976.
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    Billy Martin took over the A's in 1980, and wore the full mid-70s uniform for a very short time. But he soon got rid of everything from that set. The first thing to go was the white manager/coach cap. Then the green jersey was removed from the set. The white jersey, which had been rarely seen because it was worn only on Sundays at home (except Game 7 of the 1973 World Series, for some reason), became the regular home jersey. The next season Billy removed the "A's" logo from the yellow jersey, replacing it with an "Oakland" script. Here are the pitchers whose arms Billy ruined, wearing the uniform whose design he ruined, presented alongside the man himself. In 1982, the green was darkened, and a new buttondown home uniform with piping was introduced. The pants were returned to belted. That uniform was actually beautiful, and should never have been changed. It it far better than the current uniform. The road uniform was mismatched; it was a pullover/beltless design, in grey, with the "Oakland" script". It is this uniform and the one immediately above it that I associate with Billy in his stint as A's manager.
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    Jack Clark in the Giant uniform that is associated with the later period of Will Clark, rather than in the pullover with the cursive wordmark and front number that we're used to seeing him in.
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    Each one of these is a retired player appearing in a version of his team's uniform that did not exist during his playing days.
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    Very nice. The Nets should play some games at the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium.
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    I get the point that you're making; but your example in Rickey Henderson is not a good one. In Rickey's first stint with the A's, he passed 100 stolen bases twice and broke the single-season record; and he also appeared in All-Star Games and the postseason. So before he came to the Yankees he was already a major star who had enjoyed lots of national exposure. And, for the record, both the Yankees and the A's count as Rickey's right uniforms. For me the criterion that should be used in order to establish a "wrong" uniform is that the average fan would not remember that the player played for the team in question. While no one is unaware of Rickey's time with the Yankees or with the A's, many fans might have forgotten about his many other stops. The wrongest of all wrong uniforms for Rickey is that of the Red Sox. (I cannot speak about Ichiro because his entire career took place after I retired as a follower of baseball.)
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    "NI"?
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    The 2014 Cleveland Gladiators say hello.
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    This sort of home-road mismatch was repeated by the Mets in 1982 and 1983. The Mets brought in the racing stripe on the road in 1982. Here is Joel Youngblood, seen in the road uniform in his last at-bat as a Met in 1982 before his trade to Montreal, alongside Craig Swan shown in the home uniform used from 1978 through 1982. The racing stripe came in at home the following year, 1983.
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    Well, yes. I cannot claim to have visited such places very often. But a slightly seedy red-light district is necessary for any great and vibrant city. As a New Yorker, I lament the virtually complete loss of that sort of section here. We do have a Hustler club (to which I have never been, nor plan to go); but it is located in a remote spot, far from the centre of town. However, we have completely lost the gritty feel of the old Times Square. In some ways it is nicer now, by virtue of the installation of a bike lane and the creation of a large zone for pedestrians and for lounging at tables. But the cheesification has gone way too far for my tastes. So, when I saw that section of Baltimore Street, I had wistful memories of New York's 42nd Street from the 1970s and 1980s.
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    I visited Baltimore a couple of times last year just to get the feel of the city by riding my bike around it. (On the first visit I rode all the way there from home, on my way to Washington.) I remember passing the Hustler club and the other similar interesting places on Baltimore Street and thinking "cool" -- until my reverie was broken by noticing that police headquarters is located only a block away.
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    Or it could be that he simply recognised that neither the Magic set to which he alluded nor the Raptors' original uniforms were fit for adults to wear in public.
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    Right, an "SL" cap with the halo worked in would be a good idea. Of course, Salt Lake don't even use their great "SL" logo on their caps normally, which is crazy. They have a great monogram, that they use on various materials and apparel. That monogram would be a perfect cap logo. Yet they inexplicably use graphic bee logo on the cap. The bee logo is cute enough. But, when seen from a distance, it looks like nothing at all. So, unlike the graphic logos of the Orioles and the Blue Jays, this bee logo doesn't belong on the cap. The uniforms would be perfect with an "SL" cap. I frequently argue that a minor-league team should look like its parent club; but I have to admit that Salt Lake look very good in their own style and colour scheme. Even still, seeing the name "Salt Lake" spelt out in Angels letters and colours is just so satisfying. If that sort of thing were the norm, then I could more easily swallow the separate identities of some minor-league teams. Also, those separate identities would be less annoying if more minor-league teams had names and uniforms as sharp and dignified as Salt Lake's.
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    Another player whose correct uniform is from the XFL is Kirby Dar Dar.
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    Deion has no wrong uniform; he is known primarily for playing for a lot of teams. But I wish that he had kept a consistent uniform number in his stops in the two sports. (Same with Bo.)
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    Side point: I have never understood what happenned there. College coaches such as Louie Carnesecca, Rick Pitino, P.J. Carlesimo (and even some non-Italians) have made the transition to the pros, even if they didn't prefer it. Why did Tark flame out so spectacularly? Baffling.
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