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Ferdinand Cesarano

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  1. It's the perfect example of the Mandela effect - I bet 99 out of 100 baseball fans who remember that moment would think that he was wearing a front number when it happened. It looks incredibly strange to see that uniform sans front number, to the point that you can tell something is wrong, but can't quite put your finger on it (until realizing what it is). On that "Mandela effect" thing -- the stupid people who think that Mandela died in prison have to somehow have overlooked this iconic moment:
  2. The Cardinals will always look wrong without the front number. Unfortunately, they had the numberless front during two seasons in which players of theirs had great performances, 1980 and 1998. I think that many people adjust their memories so that they "remember" those players in those pivotal years wearing the more typical uniform.
  3. When we think of Norm Snead as a Giant, we think of him in Yankee Stadium or the Yale Bowl, wearing the traditional uniform. We do not think of him in Giants Stadium wearing the set that would become associated with Simms and LT (minus the white helmet stripes). But he was reacquired in 1976.
  4. Billy Martin took over the A's in 1980, and wore the full mid-70s uniform for a very short time. But he soon got rid of everything from that set. The first thing to go was the white manager/coach cap. Then the green jersey was removed from the set. The white jersey, which had been rarely seen because it was worn only on Sundays at home (except Game 7 of the 1973 World Series, for some reason), became the regular home jersey. The next season Billy removed the "A's" logo from the yellow jersey, replacing it with an "Oakland" script. Here are the pitchers whose arms Billy ruined, wearing the uniform whose design he ruined, presented alongside the man himself. In 1982, the green was darkened, and a new buttondown home uniform with piping was introduced. The pants were returned to belted. That uniform was actually beautiful, and should never have been changed. It it far better than the current uniform. The road uniform was mismatched; it was a pullover/beltless design, in grey, with the "Oakland" script". It is this uniform and the one immediately above it that I associate with Billy in his stint as A's manager.
  5. Jack Clark in the Giant uniform that is associated with the later period of Will Clark, rather than in the pullover with the cursive wordmark and front number that we're used to seeing him in.
  6. Each one of these is a retired player appearing in a version of his team's uniform that did not exist during his playing days.
  7. Very nice. The Nets should play some games at the Forest Hills Tennis Stadium.
  8. I get the point that you're making; but your example in Rickey Henderson is not a good one. In Rickey's first stint with the A's, he passed 100 stolen bases twice and broke the single-season record; and he also appeared in All-Star Games and the postseason. So before he came to the Yankees he was already a major star who had enjoyed lots of national exposure. And, for the record, both the Yankees and the A's count as Rickey's right uniforms. For me the criterion that should be used in order to establish a "wrong" uniform is that the average fan would not remember that the player played for the team in question. While no one is unaware of Rickey's time with the Yankees or with the A's, many fans might have forgotten about his many other stops. The wrongest of all wrong uniforms for Rickey is that of the Red Sox. (I cannot speak about Ichiro because his entire career took place after I retired as a follower of baseball.)
  9. This sort of home-road mismatch was repeated by the Mets in 1982 and 1983. The Mets brought in the racing stripe on the road in 1982. Here is Joel Youngblood, seen in the road uniform in his last at-bat as a Met in 1982 before his trade to Montreal, alongside Craig Swan shown in the home uniform used from 1978 through 1982. The racing stripe came in at home the following year, 1983.
  10. Well, yes. I cannot claim to have visited such places very often. But a slightly seedy red-light district is necessary for any great and vibrant city. As a New Yorker, I lament the virtually complete loss of that sort of section here. We do have a Hustler club (to which I have never been, nor plan to go); but it is located in a remote spot, far from the centre of town. However, we have completely lost the gritty feel of the old Times Square. In some ways it is nicer now, by virtue of the installation of a bike lane and the creation of a large zone for pedestrians and for lounging at tables. But the cheesification has gone way too far for my tastes. So, when I saw that section of Baltimore Street, I had wistful memories of New York's 42nd Street from the 1970s and 1980s.
  11. I visited Baltimore a couple of times last year just to get the feel of the city by riding my bike around it. (On the first visit I rode all the way there from home, on my way to Washington.) I remember passing the Hustler club and the other similar interesting places on Baltimore Street and thinking "cool" -- until my reverie was broken by noticing that police headquarters is located only a block away.
  12. Or it could be that he simply recognised that neither the Magic set to which he alluded nor the Raptors' original uniforms were fit for adults to wear in public.
  13. Right, an "SL" cap with the halo worked in would be a good idea. Of course, Salt Lake don't even use their great "SL" logo on their caps normally, which is crazy. They have a great monogram, that they use on various materials and apparel. That monogram would be a perfect cap logo. Yet they inexplicably use graphic bee logo on the cap. The bee logo is cute enough. But, when seen from a distance, it looks like nothing at all. So, unlike the graphic logos of the Orioles and the Blue Jays, this bee logo doesn't belong on the cap. The uniforms would be perfect with an "SL" cap. I frequently argue that a minor-league team should look like its parent club; but I have to admit that Salt Lake look very good in their own style and colour scheme. Even still, seeing the name "Salt Lake" spelt out in Angels letters and colours is just so satisfying. If that sort of thing were the norm, then I could more easily swallow the separate identities of some minor-league teams. Also, those separate identities would be less annoying if more minor-league teams had names and uniforms as sharp and dignified as Salt Lake's.
  14. Another player whose correct uniform is from the XFL is Kirby Dar Dar.
  15. Deion has no wrong uniform; he is known primarily for playing for a lot of teams. But I wish that he had kept a consistent uniform number in his stops in the two sports. (Same with Bo.)
  16. Side point: I have never understood what happenned there. College coaches such as Louie Carnesecca, Rick Pitino, P.J. Carlesimo (and even some non-Italians) have made the transition to the pros, even if they didn't prefer it. Why did Tark flame out so spectacularly? Baffling.
  17. I don't think I've ever seen/noticed that NY/Apple logo before. I have to admit that I didn't know about it, either, which is why I erroneously said that they introduced the Yankee-style NY in the next set.
  18. The Knicks did the same thing, in approximately the same seasons. They had the traditional uniforms up through 1978-79. They then went to the style with the name "Knicks" and "New York" under the number in 1979-80. (I must say that I like the contrasting numbers on the road.) Then, in 1983-84, the same season that the Nets returned to their classic uniforms, the Knicks did the same (with the addition of the number to the shorts, and the retention of the Yankee-style NY that they had introduced with the previous set). [Edit: as @leopard88 mentioned, the NY logo actually came in with the traditional uniform, before the set with the name under the number, when it was placed inside an apple.] [Edit - I didn't notice that @Discogod and @kimball had already provided this answer.]
  19. Pretty much, I can't think of journeymen in MLB they way some hop around in the NBA for 7+ teams and get decent playing time. In my day, the great Bobby Bonds got that reputation after his long career with the Giants. From his final season with the Giants in 1974 through to his last season of 1981, he played for 8 teams. When the song "Talkin' Baseball" came out, it had a line in it "Bobby Bonds can play for everyone". Here is Bonds acknowledging his many stops (even though that Giants cap is not the style that he wore).
  20. You got these right. I really hate seeing Net players with the Knicks. (I posted Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin a while back.) Seeing that stuff not only increases my dislike of the Knicks, it also increases my annoyance with the Nets because it reminds me of what a bad job the team does in embracing its history and its former players.
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