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Ferdinand Cesarano

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  1. Kareem in an L.A. Dodgers jersey with Jackie Robinson's no. 42 and a Brooklyn Dodgers cap. You can't see the cap from the front; but that Brand 47 cap uses the better Dodger cap logo with the circular loops in the B.
  2. Well, having similar road scripts didn't bother the two teams once before. Anyway, what is the story behind that prototype Yankee road uniform?
  3. If the standard is an all-time great for one team and very good for another team (as opposed to terrible for another team, as many of these late-career "wrong team" guys were), then Ty Cobb fits the bill. After having played 22 years with Detroit, Cobb played two more with the Philadelphia A's. His service with the A's is not long enough to allow him to be considered one of the club's all-time greats; but, still, he hit .357 and .323 for them in those years, at ages 40 and 41.
  4. Apologies if the following has already been brought up in this thousand-page thread. As a result of the outrageous expansion of this topic beyond its few true exemplars out to the flimsy standard of "any guy who has ever been traded", as well as the parade of hockey players, all of whom are utterly unrecognisable to me regardless of uniform, I admit that my perception of the topic has become somewhat deadened. But here is a guy who ranks alongside Namath with the Rams and Killebrew with the Royals as one of the core illustrations of this phenomenon:
  5. This reminds me of two other pitchers who made comebacks with their teams after those teams had changed uniforms. Mike Norris with the A's in 1990: Dave Stieb with the Blue Jays in 1998: Edited to add Jim Palmer in spring training of 1991:
  6. Actually, the White Sox started their current look in 1991 (though I believe they jumped the gun a bit and actually started wearing those unis in the waning days of the 1990 season). Ah, right you are! Thanks for the correction.
  7. Rick Dempsey as Babe Ruth: Right team, right uniform, right number, wrong ... body?
  8. The right uniform for Luke Appling: Kidding. Though that was a great moment, and probably the one single feat for which he is most remembered. (For you kiddies: at age 75 in 1982, he hit a home run against Warren Spahn in an Old-Timers' Game played at RFK Stadium.) But you make a great point about Appling's career. This is true for anyone who played a long time for the White Sox in any era, be it Appling, Ted Lyons, or Luis Aparicio. Even Carlton Fisk wore four different styles. The defining feature of the White Sox for their entire existence was their changing look. It's amazing that this came to a halt in 1̶9̶8̶7̶ [edit: 1991, or, more accurately, late 1990], when they adopted the uniforms that they still wear. The Sox have now completely turned it around, and have become one of the most stable teams, uniform-wise. Indeed, all four of the big uniform changes that came in for 1987 lasted a very long time. Three of them (Sox, Braves, A's) are still with us; and one (Twins) was around until only a couple of years ago. [Edit: @mpcincal has corrected my erroneous assertion that the current Sox uniform debuted in 1987.]
  9. It's supposed to be so that you can get name+numbering done on any shirt at any shop in the world, since there's only 5 number colors for the whole league and pretty much any shop that customizes will carry the font. Plus it identifies the league, which is why the little logo is there, on top of making it harder for counterfeiters. personally I'm not a huge fan of it, especially limiting the colors available like the EPL does, which leads to disasters like gold numbers on shirts with volt trim or black numbers for teams that don't use black I don't like this either, because it seems to me that the choice of number font should be part of a team's look. This is why it is so comforting to see Champions League matches in which the teams' numbers contrast just as much as their colours do.
  10. I am getting the same error message when I try to use a URL. But why don't you just copy/paste the image? I don't mean copy the image's URL; copy the image itself, and then paste it here. Test: That is working for me.
  11. For some of us, the hammer and sickle is a symbol of justice. I consider it one of the most meaningful and beautiful symbols I have ever seen, which is why I display it prominently at home, at work, on my bike, and frequently on a button affixed to my clothing. Someone of my ideology should sneer at commodification; but I will not deny that I find it cool to be able to have a hammer and sickle on my keychain or on a bag or on a cap. I wear any logo as a means to express something about myself; and the ability to wear a symbol which I love so much is something I greatly appreciate. In between the Soviet flag and another flag very beloved by me: the Esperanto flag.
  12. That's me, the prolix proletarian.
  13. (Fixed it for you.) (In the interest of accuracy, I will note that I fly the Soviet flag out of a profound respect for the Revolution, and also out of admiration for the establishment of the world's first workers' state. However, by the time Stalin's descent into madness was complete -- and certainly by the time the term "tankie" was created by apologists for American war crimes -- the workers' state in the Soviet Union had been crushed. Still, even in its degraded post-proletarian-state condition, the Soviet Union continued to do humanity a great service by functioning as a counterweight to U.S. imperialism.)
  14. What's that mean? Just a little joke. When Dave Magadan was traded from the Marlins to the Mariners, this somehow caused me to conflate these two teams that had names and colours that were pretty close. For years I often said "Mariners" when I meant Marlins and "Marlins" when I meant Mariners. Eventually I got over it -- or so I thought! Blast you, Dave Magadan!
  15. Oops! Marlins, Mariners -- whatever. Call it the "Dave Magadan Syndrome".
  16. This is a good point. I agree with this distinction, that there is a middle ground between a "right" and a "wrong" uniform. And I also agree that the "wrong" uniform is one which makes you say "whoa, when did that happen?" But Hank Aaron with the Brewers is not a good example of this. Aaron's return to Milwaukee with the Brewers was huge news, and it is a well-known part of his story. He was on an American League All-Star team; and every home run he hit with the Brewers was national news, as it set a new record. Aaron's stint with the Brewers does not compare with Piazza/Mariners, Thomas/A's, Killebrew/Royals, or any of the others that were truly forgettable footnotes to history. I would say that Aaron with the Brewers fits into that first category you identified: neither right nor wrong. Likewise Charlie Hough with the Marlins. He threw the first pitch in team history, and he was extensively interviewed in the leadup to the club's debut. So, while Hough's right uniform is the Dodgers uniform, the Marlins uniform is not wrong for him. Finally, in agreeing that the Wizards uniform is not wrong for Jordan (while not being right, either), I will go a step further and say that the same applies to his White Sox and Birmingham Barons uniforms. No one seeing pictures of him in those uniforms says "whoa, when did that happen?" Everyone knows he played for those teams, as there were few sports stories bigger at the time. So those uniforms, while not equal to his right uniform of the Bulls, fall into the intermediate neither-right-nor-wrong category.
  17. Hmm. I had long believed that there were special uniforms for this game. But now I am doubting this. See this site for more. So, maybe Greenberg did indeed play in the game wearing a Yankee uniform.
  18. Great shot! This is from the Giants' 1962 Old-Timers' Day. That Lombardi was in a Giant uniform illustrates the Giants' constant commitment to embracing their history. For Joe, that Giants road uniform was meant to stand in for the uniform of the San Francisco Seals. Here are all three DiMaggio brothers on that day -- but only Joe gets to wear the cap of his Major League team. Joe once played in a game -- an exhibition game -- wearing a Red Sox uniform. In September of 1946, after the conclusion of the regular season, the Red Sox held an exhibition game against a team of American League All-Stars in order to tune up for the World Series. But Joe's Yankee uniform didn't arrive, so he wore a Red Sox road uniform at Fenway Park. Another uniform error led to Hank Greenberg wearing a Yankee uniform, though not in a game. [Edit: he might indeed have worn it in an exhibition game.] In 1943, an exhibition game was held at the Polo Grounds between teams made up of various active and former players as a means to raise money for war bonds. The game itself had special uniforms [Edit: maybe not; see subsequent response]; but the previous day's practice was done in the players' own uniforms. Greenberg evidently didn't get the memo, and didn't bring his Tiger uniform. So people at the site cobbled together a Yankee uniform (strangely, not a Giant uniform in the Giants' own park -- a reflection of the relative status of the two clubs), and Greenberg wore that for the practice. This is broadly similar to Reggie Jackson wearing a Mariner uniform for the team picture at the 1979 All-Star Game in Seattle. A weird postscript to this story is that the above photo of Greenberg actually got him in trouble with the Tigers a few years later, leading to the end of his Tiger career. In the winter before the 1947 season, the Tigers' owner Walter Briggs saw that photo for the first time. There were rumours at the time that Greenberg, a New Yorker, wanted to finish his career with the Yankees. In light of this, Briggs, acting with a petulance and an abruptness that surpassed even Steinbrenner-esque levels, became enraged at the photo, and sold Greenberg to the Pirates.
  19. New York Apples (World Team Tennis) AFC Bournemouth -- "the Cherries" Bakersfield Jam Denver Nuggets Kentucky ... Kernels?
  20. I couldn't argue with that. There's no doubt that Reggie is an essential part of the A's and the Yankees. But he was with the A's for much longer; and he became a superstar with them, even if he took it to the next level with the Yankees. But the one thing that irks me about that shot: he's wearing the wrong number! He should have gone back to no. 9 upon his return to Oakland. It's good that the A's retired no. 9 in his honour.
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