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Was in Rochester once and had one of those monstrosities, hold the beans..... it was.... odd. As for the Buffalo Wings discussion, the wing just seems a little too thin. As for the wing diagram, I had always seen the 'wingette' called a 'flat' and the other main part a 'drummie'. At least that's how the meat market down from me sells them as.

That 'faux back' logo is heaps better than what they have. It's old-timey and has the feel of the old advertisements such as Hamburgler, etc. The current logo is just too 'cartoony'.

Yeah. Groupers is so much better than Miracle for a team name.

Yes, let's use a logo of what easily catches our team's namesake. How about a hunting rifle for the Milwaukee Bucks. Or traps for the Jumbo Shrimp.

The problem with Woodpeckers is you know within the first game people are just going to call them the Peckers. Fatbacks has a lot of real estate to play with to make the name their own.

Every time I saw this logo, it looked like the Tarpon was holding a pick ax. And I couldn't fathom why I kept seeing that. And then I realized. The bat rests on the front of his chest, slightly on his shoulder. The bat goes behind the roundel, yet his eyes/head are in front. It's clear by the length of the bat, it's nearly straight up and down. So, it shouldn't be going BEHIND the roundel if his bulging eyes are in front of it. Unless it's a ridiculously long bat. It loses the 3-D look and makes the roundel seem part of the bat, to me. And I can't unsee it. I like the logo. And think for a fish logo they did a good job and incorporated the Yankee pinstripes. Yet, that bat just keeps throwing me off.

Went to a few Hudson Valley games this past year. The old logo definitely had a 'kids club' feel to it. Really like the new primary and keeping the HV with the tail.The secondary homeplate logo is a nice logo for the area. Not liking the homeplate HV logo, though. Feels too unfinished. Like something's missing. It's blocky, and the alternating stripe effect just doesn't work across the entire background.

It's a real league.

He thinks the announcement of a team instantly creates thousands of diehard fans who will devote their lives and support to the team.

Exactly. So they're not going to pay MLB money to see a Rays game unless their team comes to town. However, getting in to a game for $10, even if not your team, might not be something to pass up.

The tickets are dirt cheap. So, I remember a Chargers game moving to Tempe getting a huge crowd when it was basically 'bring something to donate' to get in free. I forget Minnesota's game in Detroit, but remember it being something similar and had a huge crowd. True baseball fans might not be able to pass up $10 lower bowl seats.

And what's worse is that the USHL wants to start a team in Kansas City at a new arena that's to be built.

Seems quite excited stroking the star.

ESPN suffered one fatal flaw. Once they wound up with 5 channels (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNEWS, ESPNU, and ESPN Classic), they had huge rights fees to a lot of major properties.... they couldn't show more than one at a time. They couldn't put an NBA game and an MLB game on at the same time on competing channels. So, the extra channels became pointless most of the time. Other than college basketball or football, the additional channels meant a lot of dead space to fill with WSOP or Gymnastics. Or anything else. The additional channels was more about extracting more money from cable providers than it was actually filling those channels with viable content. So, aside from airing those sports, they had to focus on them to such an extent, that the rest of the time was nothing but putrid crap and the talking-head shows. Yeah, PTI was great when it first started, but it died a quick death and it's corpse has been propped up on the network for the last decade or more. But, that nearly $10/mo rights fees paid by cable providers for the Disney Sports Cartel package was charged to all subscribers. And it's those cord-cutters they're hemorrhaging is the problem. ESPN has nothing they can do to entice them to stay. And their carriage agreements stop the concept of 'a la carte' from ever happening. ESPN is on the basic tier, or not at all. The poison pill cable providers can't risk swallowing. But where the network brass has failed their carriage partners, the leagues are going to really feel the brunt of it. Sports relies heavily on random, casual fans tuning into the random big game but otherwise ignore the sport, league, or team the rest of the time. The Super Bowl is the most notable relic of this idea. But, March Mardness, the Stanley Cup Finals, NBA playoffs, World Series, the All-Star games, even things like Sunday Night Baseball or MOnday Night Football rely heavily on casual channel-flippers lingering on the game long enough to register and hopefully long enough to count for most of the game. As cord-cutting continues, and it will, the problem will be those cord-cutters will have fewer and fewer opportunities to randomly watch those sporting events. Children who may vaguely watch and one day become fans won't have access to something that may, in a true a la carte nature, be far too costly. Tightly packaged away with the 'basic cable' package, that sports tier would be the first thing axed by non-diehard fans. And that would up rights fees for everyone who IS a fan. And make their price-to-say-no that much more attainable. It kills future viewership in exchange for milking the most money out of the fan base today. It's short-sighted. MLB saw this in the 80s and 90s where it seemed to focus so much on older, aging fans, instead of cultivating the next wave of fans. Available viewership does that, too.

Given that the AHL is much more a junior circuit than ECHL being a bus league, is there any possibility an AHL team would/could work in Alaska? Or is the market too tapped out to afford it with the added cost of travel? Traveling to San Jose, Los Angeles, San Diego, etc is probably much cheaper than ECHL travel. But, tickets/attendance probably requires a bit more than they can support. NAHL is probably the route to take for Anchorage to get a team. With two other NAHL teams in the state, it makes the most sense.

Has any minor league team utilized 'wavy' pinstripes? Not criss-cross or overlap. Evenly spaced, but just zig-zag down the uniform?

It's actually cheaper/easier for Alaska to fly to major cities than the little dots on the map that are ECHL markets traditionally. The reason NAHL teams in Alaska were in the division with Texas teams was because flying to Dallas was actually cheaper. So, sticking them with sporadically placed western teams wasn't as ideal. Not sure if that's still the case. But, other than Seattle (the primary destination of almost all Alaskan flights), you're taking other flights to continue your trip in most cases.

There's two teams in the NAHL in Alaska. Fairbanks and in Soldotna. It would make more sense to switch over to NAHL. With three Alaskan teams, the ability to let the league favor scheduling Alaskan teams, would greatly cut down on travel. And road teams could travel to all three in one trip to get in as many games as possible.

STD Pigs is all I get from that logo.

Orlando Solar Bears, Houston ThunderBears, Knoxville Ice Bears,... there's something wrong with bears according to sports marketers.

I'm definitely in the "Redbirds hit a homerun" camp.

Indoor Football team in Evansville, Indiana were the "Evansville BlueCats". It's a decent name and imagery. Though it's clear the Waco BlueCats did it much better. And I really like the hook W, nice touch.

Salt Lake City Golden Eagles Have at it.

And San Fran Cis Co For Ty Nin Ers is better?

If a school wanted out, I don't see how the ACC could enforce this. Especially with public universities. They wouldn't sign away their rights without some sort of out clause. Every contract has some sort of out for both parties. To not would be utterly foolish and could be argued it wasn't negotiated in good faith by both sides.