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You're the guy! Oh, you already knew that I'm that guy. Current scheme = terrific. Germanic unis > all other Brewers unis. Totally agree. Once they dumped the "Motre Bame" hat in favor of "M", that was their best.

Wow...I don't really agree with anything on this list (maybe somewhat on Bills and Chiefs). Nice work at long list of "unpopular". I'll add that I hate the Cartoon Bird

I detest the Orioles cartoon bird and love the full-body bird (preferably from the early 1990s, though). Generally I prefer full body animal logos (Bengals leaping tiger, Lions bubbles, Coyotes alt) and it seems most of you prefer animal head logos. Also I love the matte college baseball helmets we saw a few months ago and matte football helmets. I also prefer the Angels' silver halo to the gold one.

I LOVE the blue Arizona football helmet AND I HATE the white Arizona football helmet, particularly the asymmetry caused by the different colored stripe on each side.

I have definitely seen a counterfeit jersey on a Twins "tickets still available" TV ad. Pretty much only us geeks can tell and since the majority of jerseys at Twins games are fake, it's really no surprise.

That place really has some variety. Where else can you get jerseys for "Miami Hot" and "Miamii Heat"? And where else when you click on those links can you but Timberwolves jerseys? In fairness, anyone would have to try to trick people in order to unload their Timberwolves jerseys.

It would appear that way. While I can see, with all the rings they design, that there will be similar elements, the Auburn National Champ ring is downright lazy...To not only use the Pats design, but to have what looks like the Lombardi Trophy?

That would have been awesome. It's exactly what I thought was going to happen when the trade was made. The uni change had not been announced (or, at least, I did not know about it). Even if it had been for one year, I'd really consider getting the yellow home version.

"Pillsbury Throwboy" would make my top 10 sports nickname list. Kudos to whoever came up with that one.

Can't speak for jerseys but I know that counterfeit Jordans and the like get a bum rap among the general public, so it wouldn't be a stretch to suggest that many non-logo nerds would frown on fake jerseys. You'd find a mixed bag of people...many people did not understand why music file sharing was wrong...the music was free and that's all that mattered to them. However, I think you're right that some non-logo nerds that "get it" would be on "our side". Aside from the fact that CCLSC has some designers (who obviously take intellectual property issues to heart), the biggest difference between "us" and the general public is that most "regular" people don't notice incorrect number fonts, huge wordmarks, and even last names on Yankee Jerseys. Therefore, they don't notice that the majority of the jerseys they see at the game are counterfeit. If they did, some would care and some would not. And if you don't like that we notice that stuff, then I wonder why you are even here...

Do you honestly think that everyone who owns a piece of counterfeit merchandise ends up in jail? If the biggest crime someone commits in his life is owning a piece of counterfeit merchandise, I would say his parents did a pretty great job of raising him. Counterfeit jerseys are a gateway drug...next stops armed robbery, assault and battery, and then finally murder I'd wager that most people don't care about theoretical infractions of property law. Yeah it's technically against the law like jaywalking or not transferring your old CDs to MP3 format, but really...big deal. Everyone who gets all hot and bothered about this should direct their energy to helping the sick or poor instead of defending the Yankees or whomever. OT: I assume the word "not" should be removed...is this illegal?

He was proboly David Arios or whatever back then too And only half the man he is now.

Agreed, I was mildly disappointed when I heard that news. I mean, it's good that they're recognizing it, but it just should've been a section in the yearbooks, the Wild Card isn't banner-worthy. In a sport that is, for now, the most difficult to make the playoffs, I am OK with such a banner. Maybe it would make more sense for, say, the Brewers, who have very few appearances compared to ATL. But in MLB, where getting in is the key, I am OK with this. What I cannot stand, however, is the phrase "Wild Card Champions." That is not a championship any more than "NBA Western Conference 7th Place Playoff Birth" is a championship.

Yes. The football jersey photos did not look too bad, though they may have just stolen the photos from another site. I took a look at the Twins jerseys though, and they had the crap I see all over Target Field...Huge wordmarks, bad number font, pre-Target Field wordmark with target field patch. Awful. I'd guess everything's a fake, and probably a bad one. And take a look at this beaut: Haulat

At Twins games, I would guess 2/3 of the jerseys I see look like the photo in the link: Link To anyone that said "they even have the authentic tags...they're real" You'll notice the authentic tag on these, even though it has the 2009 wordmark and the 2010 Target Field patch.

I've definately seen two stores that I can think of with "too good to be true" prices. One had some pretty blatant fakes (a very temporary small-town downtown storefront owned-operated by one guy that I imagine is long-gone). The other was an "outlet" store with "authentic" Adrian Petersons for $80...they looked pretty good...but I am not the expert at picking out the well-done fakes. But I suspect they were fake at the price.

Actually, that's not the case. When I order from NHLShop.com, I don't have to pay tax since there's no NHL Store in Indiana. You only have to pay tax if the retailer has a location in your state, and obviously CHINA JERSEYS 100% LEGIT doesn't have a location anywhere in Indiana. Plenty of crappy stripmall stores sell counterfiets and they probably do comply with the sales tax laws. (also in MN, no tax on clothing anyway)

It's the same thing. Yes gucci has a monopoly on gucci purses...if you don't like spending hundreds on a purse, then buy another purse with no "designer cred" or whatever. They don't have the right, nor do they "need" such a purse any more than I have a right to or need an overpriced Adrian Peterson jersey. There are other purses out there, just like there are other clothes (and team memorabilia) out there. My wife, fortunately, is not into fashion purses. If she was, she'd decide whether it is worth the money or not. These purses make the jerseys seem flat out reasonable by comparison. Nevertheless, it's not anyone's right to have one and if that's the price the market has set...so be it. It's too bad anyone will pay $500 for a purse, but it is what it is. It does not render contributing to the culture of IP theft noble or even OK.

Not being allowed to bring something in has always been a fear, as I show up to most games via public transportation. Like if I am coming from work with an umbrella or something... Anyway, this may be feasible but I think the teams would have to promote the heck out of it so as to not catch people by surprise. They may even have to have a "coat check" system where the fans can get it on the way out, as opposed to confiscating. The bottom line is that people feel they are paying a lot to go to the game and that they paid their hard-earned money for the jersey, which they did not even realize was "fake". I wonder whether one of the reasons they don't try this is that it's hard to not find enough "enforcers" that can actually tell the difference. Another problem the "enforcers" may have is the person that ruins a perfectly legit item with a sloppy customization...they may bust someone with a licensed product. I certainly agree with you here. At the very least, get out via web posters in the pro-shop, etc. that points out 1) the differences and 2) the theft aspect, if only to get a few people to understand. I assume (but I suppose I may be wrong) that most of the people I see wearing the fakes don't really understand that they are fake/illegally-produced either because they don't understand "officially licensed", don't realize just how "off" it looks, or accept that replicas are not going to have perfect detail (which is the case often...e.g., when MLB used to have nice looking replica jerseys with one-color block #s and names for all teams).

I'd guess this will not happen because the teams know the PR would be bad. Look at the response to the recording industry...people think they have the right to pirate music. Look at this board, populated in large part by people that "get it", and most are OK with IP theft. I think the general public would rationalize this the same way it does the music thing. Most people just think it's OK to steal as long as they are not walking out of a store with merchandise under their jackets. I think the leagues/teams understand this and will never take that hard of a line. Plus I don't think it would be good for long-term attendance if they piss fans off by turning them away at the gate. Particularly when most fans don't even realize the "deal" they got was on an illegal jersey. Even those that don't think of the counterfeiting as OK would certainly think that their ignorance of what they bought should not cause them to get turned away at the gate. The amount of money a fan spends at the game is not worth forgoing. I think the best a team can really do is to try to publicize this and hope a decent proportion of the fanbase will "get it". And, if they are so inclined, the Canadiens' "turn in" program.

My unpopular opinion is that "fierce" ruins a football helmet.

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I was not trying to say that there are as many for MLB, just pointing out that it is a problem (for those who think it's a problem) there as well.

Every time I go to a Twins game, I see TONS of knock-offs. The wordmarks are huge and the number font is way off...but most fans don't really notice. I am not willing to pay the costs of an over-priced jersey. So I just walk into stores and steal 'em.

I think at that point I'dve hauled ass. I own four Super Bowl rings in total - all bought off of players or front office staff. They're cool, but wearing one in public is equivalent to having a spotlight on you, attracting attention you don't necessarily want. I'd love to own some championship rings. Would be a great thing to collect if I had a lot more money. But I don't think I'd wear one I did not earn.