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What if... the White Sox relocated to New Orleans (and changed their name)?

This is the same premise as my original White Sox → NOLA design, but if they changed their name to the "Pelicans." Once again, Mardi Gras colors felt like the way to go with this one.

4 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Whoops! For the road jersey, I meant adding a white stroke to your original design with the "Oakland" script. My fault for not being clearer. 

Ah gotcha, here you go:

Watching Pitt - UNC last night really reinforces how much better the Rams’ uniforms could be.  Just imagine a royal blue helmet with the classic horn:

49 minutes ago, Cujo said:

I've decided with white tops, the Dolphins should ALWAYS wear aqua pants and the Chargers should ALWAYS were their yellow.

If the Dolphins play the Jaguars in Jacksonville, and the Jags decided to wear their teal tops and/or pants, then I’d argue white pants would be the better way to go for the Dolphins. Better contrast.

Similarly, if the Chargers go into Pittsburgh or Green Bay, who almost always wear gold pants, then I’d say the all-white would be better for LA.

Don’t get me wrong, I prefer the aqua pants for the Dolphins & the gold pants for the Chargers, but there are some instances where an alternate combination is preferable.

What if... the Pirates relocated to New Orleans (and changed their name)? 

This is the same premise as my original Pirates → NOLA design, but if they changed their name to the "Pelicans." Mardi Gras colors felt like the way to go here.

16 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Very nice!

Could we see the road jersey with white trim, a la the '70s and '80s Dodgers uniforms?

Sure:

5 hours ago, mrcubfan415 said:

I’m not so sure the Dodgers would be so quick to drop their classic blue. I’m wondering how this might look in the classic blue and white but keeping green as an accent color (e.g., for the front numbers).

As much as the Dodgers in Oakland doesn't feel right, this feels even less right:

1 hour ago, -Akronite- said:

Primary home uniforms also would've been perfection. A shame.

For this particular matchup, I like the green contrasted against Ohio State's red. Along with the metallics, it gives me heavy Christmas vibes. If only the game was played in December.

Ohio State vs. Notre Dame would be a perfect matchup if Notre Dame went with gold pants. Green & gold vs. red & silver. 

What if... the Dodgers relocated to Oakland?

Although the Dodgers never seemed to have much interest, the City of Oakland Baseball Committee sent a letter to Walter O. Malley encouraging him to consider moving to the city. Green actually has precedence in Dodgers history.

3 minutes ago, maxwasson said:

Also are you going to get to any of my suggestions (none of these are new)?

• Buffalo Bisons (Red Sox) Not my suggestion, but It has been requested in this thread

I already did this one.

4 minutes ago, maxwasson said:

• Grand Rapids Rippers (Cleveland)
• Sioux City Cornhuskers (White Sox)

These are both before the 1900's, I honestly don't feel the need to go that far back. Plus, I don't imagine there's many universes where those cities nor their team names last into the modern day.

8 minutes ago, maxwasson said:

• New Orleans Pelicans (Pirates)
• New Orleans Pelicans (White Sox)

I don't think changing the name to "Pelicans" would add much to either of these identities.

7 hours ago, teeray01 said:

This version is pretty awesome.  Can we see the road and alternates with updated sleeves?

I'd rather avoid it, because like I said it still feels like it references Native American imagery more-so than it does eagles.

7 hours ago, maxwasson said:

 

Would the Minnesota BASEBALL Vikings also be eternally cursed by the being best team in the MLB to never win a World Series? 

Hey now, that hits a little too close to home. 

5 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Love this! Something about the "crude" look of the scripts works really well for a team called the "Vikings."

I'd love to see some sort of logo on the sleeve, either the actual Vikings logo or, as you suggested on Twitter, an "M" with Viking horns. 

Maybe something like this?

I'm a little late, but I'm a bit surprised to see the distaste towards the Browns' throwback/alt. I honestly thought it looked pretty nice. The mismatched stripes are a bit quirky, but that hasn't stopped people from liking other traditional sets. Plus, it's historically accurate, and there's no way they were gonna change the helmet stripes too much.

I know people are going to hate me for this, but the only thing that would've made it better in my mind is if Pittsburgh went with their black-out Color Rush. More adventurous alternate uniforms like that can work well for divisional opponents, so it's not just the same matchup every year.

What if... Cleveland's baseball team relocated to Minneapolis (and changed their name)?

Per @coco1997: In 1957, GM Hank Greenberg was fired when it came to light that he started a secret campaign to move the team to Minnesota. I figured they'd maybe snatch "Vikings" before the NFL team.

4 hours ago, coco1997 said:

The throwback looks great, but I think I have a way to make the feather work across the board. Is it possible to tweak the original feather design to look angular, similar to—and I hate to use this comparison—the one on Chief Wahoo’s head?

I suppose it could work, but honestly the single feather motif still brings to mind Native American imagery to me, not an eagle, so I think it'd be best to avoid it personally.

11 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Great job once again on the scripts! 

 

I know you're going for a mainly Guardians-inspired look, but I can't help but think this concept, given the new identity, would be the perfect opportunity to work in the sleeve feathers. 

Thanks! At first I thought the smooth, round shape of the feather would clash with the sharp, jagged wordmarks, but as a throwback, it could work...

3 minutes ago, VampyrRabbit said:

I second the sleeve feathers. And also a similar shade of metallic gold Atlanta United use might work better than the black, or compliment it.

I kind of wanted to keep this one strictly to red & black, as I already utilized gold for a Guardians-inspired set for this series.

What if... Cleveland's baseball team relocated to Atlanta (and changed their name)?

Per @coco1997: Prior to the Braves landing there in 1966, they were also & a contender for Atlanta. I went with the name "Eagles," as it's what Ted Turner considered renaming the Braves to in 1976.

13 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Yeah, this looks great. The simplified piping was a good call, too, and looks closer to those Padres jerseys. 

Love this! The “Rangers” script is especially strong.

Thanks!

12 hours ago, MilSox said:

Great job on the scripts, but I feel like they would have gone with the Dallas Braves, and maybe had a logo like the old Chiefs one where the Indian is running across the plains states.... only with Texas, obviously.

Possibly, but even if they did, that logo would likely be long gone by now, and considerations would have to be made about possibly changing the name, as well. 

What if... the Braves relocated to Dallas (and changed their name)?

Per @coco1997: Braves president John McHale also met with representatives from Dallas in 1964 to discuss moving the team there. The Braves' throwback "Hank Aaron" set was a big source of inspiration for this one.

23 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Great job creating that "San Diego" script in the style of the Braves! I know that's an especially tricky script to work with, but you pulled it off. 

 

I'd kind of like to see the navy & gold on the home and road jerseys reversed, if only because on those 2016 Padres unis, navy was the primary color with gold used as trim. I also realized that if you wanted to, you could use the Padres' original 1969-84 "SD" monogram somewhere, since its blockiness matches the Braves' number font fairly well. 

Thanks! 

A general rule of thumb I've developed for Braves concepts (the Angels follow the same rule for me, too) is that the outline of the script ought to be darker than the script itself, at least on the primary home & away jerseys, because the outline is so thick and the script itself is so thin. Otherwise, it ends up looking like a "re-color concept," for lack of a better term, that disregards a bit why the original wordmark was colored the way it was. Regardless, here's a look at your request:

It honestly looks better than I expected, I took the liberty of trimming the stripes down from 3 to 2, as otherwise it was just too much gold.

What if... the Braves relocated to San Diego?

Per @coco1997: Braves president John McHale in 1964 admitted he had met with representatives from San Diego about moving the team out West. I went with a scheme inspired by the city's large naval presence.

On 9/18/2023 at 12:59 PM, coco1997 said:

 

I really like the idea of "Twins" referring to the mountains, but with this name change, the use of yellow/gold doesn't make as much sense as it did for a team called the "Bees." Mountains make me think of cool tones, so how about a scheme based on Salt Lake City's previous flag?

 

You'd have to play around with the shades a bit to find the right contrast, but I think it has potential. 

I get that. I honestly didn't keep navy & yellow entirely because of the Bees, but because the Utah Jazz also used to have a similar color scheme. Personally, if I ever did a royal blue & kelly green color scheme for the Twins, I'd want to reserve it for Minnesota, as it's one of my personal favorite color schemes and has precedence in the Twin Cities. I suppose I could harken back to an earlier Jazz scheme, which also uses cool colors:

It ends up pretty similar to my Carolina Twins concept, though.

20 hours ago, teeray01 said:

How about the Utah Bees?

Honestly, I prefer the way "Salt Lake Bees" sounds.

18 hours ago, FlyingLamprey said:

Definitely an interesting concept (love the sleeve patch!), but this would be a huge drag for anyone red-green colorblind.  The darker version you posted later does help with this a little, but they both still struggle to show up on websites like Coblindor.  Maybe a kelly green-navy combo would work better in this case?  Other than that, nothing else to complain about - great series!

That's very true, thank you for the insight! I played around a bit with the color-blindness simulator you linked, and it honestly seems like the red alternate would be the biggest issue, but even then , the white outline on the script helps out a great deal. Otherwise, the scripts would just look a slight bit thicker to someone who is red-green colorblind than they do to people who are not color-blind. It could also help to have a white outline on the away jersey, which I was considering adding anyway:

I've always been kind of bummed that there aren't more red & green teams in sports, but the point you bring up is probably a big reason why. Thank you again for the feedback & kind words!

2 hours ago, HobbesTHero said:

So this one is entirely fictional, but since I know you said you were (at one point) running out of teams I thought I’d go ahead and suggest it.

 

Norfolk Yankees.

 

In Billy Joel’s “Miami 2017” he includes the line “They sent a carrier out from Norfolk and picked the Yankees up for free.” I thought that might be a fun concept, the Norfolk Yankees. The song was written around the time that NYC was going bankrupt, so the song was a “what if” about that. 

Since it's fictional, without any actual evidence surrounding it, I'd probably prefer not to get into it, as if anything, I'm trying to run out of teams at this point, but suggestions keep coming.  

What if... the Twins (temporarily) relocated to Salt Lake City?

I didn't think the 'Twins' name could work in SLC, but a Twitter user pointed out to me that it could represent the 'Twin Peaks' of the nearby Wasatch Mountains.

5 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Great work creating those scripts in the Guardians' style! I'm curious to see how this set would look with forest green in place of Kelly, similar to how the Guardians pair red with navy blue. 

Thanks! I thought about going with forest green, but it just felt too "drab" compared to kelly green. Here's a look, though:

5 hours ago, coco1997 said:

I was thinking about a potential Indians-to-Minnesota name change, and here are a few ideas I came up with:

Gophers - This name could serve as a nod to both the black baseball club of the early 1900s (the St. Paul Colored Gophers, also called the Twin City Gophers) and the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers. 

Lakers - With the Lakers leaving Minneapolis for L.A. following the 1960 season, maybe the Indians could grab that name shortly after their arrival? "Lakers" always made way more sense for a Minnesota team ("Land of 10,000 Lakes") than a Los Angeles one. 
 
(Hero) Twins - You could keep the "Twins" name but have it refer to the "Hero Twins" (or "God Boys") of Native American mythology. 

 

Vikings - Perhaps the relocated Indians, still wanting a name that refers to a group of warrior people, could beat the NFL squad to the punch by a few years? Other names the Vikings considered were "Miners," "Chippewas" and "Voyageurs." 

I'll see what I can do; of those options, keeping "Twins" or going with "Vikings" feel the most promising.

What if... Cleveland's baseball team relocated to Oakland (and changed their name)? 

Per @coco1997: In 1964, the "Oakland Baseball Corp." made a $6.5 million bid to purchase and move the team but were rejected by Cleveland’s board of directors. I went with "Oaks," the name of the PCL team.

14 hours ago, coco1997 said:

Nice work on the Bees! I’ve always loved that minor-league identity. 
 

Any chance we could see the alternates without the pinstripes?

Sure thing: