Gothamite

56 minutes ago, Sec19Row53 said:

Not to nitpick, but they aren't professional -- they're a collegiate wood bat league. Decidedly NOT professional.

Where I agree with you is that, like the team, the logo isn't professional either 

Point well taken.

1 hour ago, Gothamite said:

Soft unsaturated pastel colors don’t feel particularly “Madison” to me.  Nor do they work for a baseball team. 

48 minutes ago, tBBP said:

Not even when they're pulled straight from the city's flag??

But they’re not pulled straight from the city’s flag.  The city uses a very bold gold and saturated sky blue, as seen on their voter drop boxes:

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And as for their use on a baseball uniform, well...Boston just put it that on blast with those City joints

Boston also used a pretty standard gold and sky blue.  Not these unsaturated, muted  wall paint colors. 

The cream really doesn’t help. Maybe if the blue was more sky and less slate, it would be better. 

Yeah, this is... not good. 
 

This is the home cap. The winged-M has promise, but they ruin it with the tail, extra outlines and a drop-shadow.  Ugh. 
 

 

and this is the road cap.  The “cheese home plate” is fine in the context of a batting-mascot logo, I guess, but is pretty stupid on its own. 

 

I mean, that is the cap for a professional baseball team.  Ugh.  

 

Soft unsaturated pastel colors don’t feel particularly “Madison” to me.  Nor do they work for a baseball team. 

That one I would support him on.

2 hours ago, NicDB said:

Perhaps it's a mock up that the Packers made for promotional purposes?

I doubt they would have posted it on their official social media if that weren't the case.

1 hour ago, LA Fakers+ LA Snippers said:

But it was released by the Packers themselves…

yes.  That’s what’s so odd, that the Packers would release such a sloppy photoshop. 

1 hour ago, WSU151 said:

Odd that the Nike logos are facing the wrong way on that Rodgers jersey. The curve of the logo is usually on the front side of the shoulders. 

You're right.  Crummy bootleg all around.

That nameplate font is too small. 
 

8 minutes ago, WSU151 said:

Looks like the 49ers' Saloon wordmark is back as official; the stadium had a huge banner with it this week, and ESPN is using it during the draft. The endzones have had it for what, two years now, but I thought that was just the team doing it for fans. 

 

I love the Saloon wordmark, though I know quite a few on here like the updated one. 

Love that font for them.  Good on the 49ers. 

23 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said:

It's weird that it was the Chiefs, specifically. I don't necessarily think of them as a team that should have that many retired numbers.

They aren’t.  Eleven retired numbers, counting the one unofficial?  That’s too many for them.  

8 hours ago, Old School Fool said:

Hey they actually get a diamond to go on throwbacks again like in 1994. It’s like a throwback of a throwback that’s a fauxback! Aaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!!

Well, diamond is a pretty legitimate indicator  of a 75th.  Obviously not all teams use one, but plenty have.  
 

14 minutes ago, 4_tattoos said:

So it's possible for a new age helmet to have the internal workings of a Vicis, while the exterior has the simple mold of the old school Riddell helmets?

Probably.  
 

But that would defeat the whole purpose, if you can’t instantly tell what helmet the player is wearing.  

11 hours ago, 4_tattoos said:

Why did football helmets start developing all the random ridges, holes and vents anyway? Do they serve a practical purpose? 

The purpose they serve is making the company's product visually distinct.

White.

And if you look at the team's website, they're really leaning into it.

NJ/NY Gotham FC Moves to the Top of the Eastern Division in Thrilling Win Over North Carolina Courage

They use the three letters for game stats:

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Stats Summary: NJY / NCC
Shots: 15 / 15
Shots on Goal: 6 / 5
Saves: 2 / 2
Corner Kicks: 5 / 7
Fouls: 7 / 13
Offside: 5 / 0
 
Misconduct Summary:
NJY – Jennifer Cudjoe (caution) 86’

So no, I'm not sure we can say they're ditching the place identifiers.

And yet, this was last night.

Looks like the only thing they've chopped off is the slash. 

On 4/3/2021 at 11:07 AM, Lights Out said:

That script is very hard to read on the home jersey. They probably should have gone with a double outline.

Double outlines never improve legibility.

They probably should have gone with a better script.

On 4/8/2021 at 9:42 PM, Digby said:

 

Not a super thrilling rebrand but the logo and now the jerseys at least have a solid color scheme and don’t look cheapo. And doing the photo shoots on that one instagrammable block in DUMBO. An overnight shift to actual professionalism for this team.

New Jersey/New York New York FC will look pretty good this year. 

21 hours ago, DNAsports said:

Agreed.

Nothing about the name can be salvaged.  Nothing about the name should be salvaged.

Meh.

The black pants are terrible.  Other than those this is an upgrade, but that wouldn't be hard.

The only reason to keep “Red” in the name is to maintain a link to the old one. 

Which is not a good reason to keep it. 

Colors are staying, but anything that even hints at Native iconography has to go.  

9 hours ago, DNAsports said:

It’s an acknowledgment of something they shouldn’t acknowledge any further. The history is the franchise. Not the name.

Acknowledging now that the name is racist does not means you pretend it was never used.  But it does mean you don’t glorify it, and you don’t use it (or derivatives) anymore. 

1 hour ago, NicDB said:

I'm not saying they should. But a Redtail is hawk that's named after its feathers. Therefore the Lombardi R is still appropriate as it doesn't reference anything explicitly native.

Lombardi R is fine. 

No feathers, though. 

On 4/15/2021 at 4:08 PM, NicDB said:

I wanted the Redsk*ns name gone as much as anyone, but I'm not so militant about completely erasing the fact that they were ever called as such.  Redtails would allow them to keep their circle and feather, only replace the Indian head with probably a W or R.

they really can’t keep any Native iconography at all, even if they’re now going to claim that it has a different meaning.

And nobody’s claiming that we erase the past.  We just can’t keep condoning that past as if it was somehow okay.

3 hours ago, BBTV said:

Sounds like they're all over the place with this.

We can't discount the very real possibility that some of these names are pure misdirection.