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8 hours ago, Bruins said:

Probably an unpopular opinion, but anyone else kinda bummed the howling coyote is dead? It was a really unique modern look, well-executed & stately, and the shoulder patch kicked butt. Brick red really worked for the desert too.

 

We'll probably never see them again, and that's a shame. They're another helpless victim of the Retro-Trend Machine, which has done a lot of good for the league's looks (CGY, BUF, PIT, etc.) But I think those were all pretty clear upgrades, where as the 'Yotes are a team that had a really nice look going, and are ditching it to chase a fad that's growing staler by the day. I understand jersey sales are important here, but now they'll only have 3 to sell, from 4.

 

Not to mention how well the kachina complemented as an alternate, and I still can't put aside how muddy they look on tv.

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

 

I didn't hate the howling head jersey as a whole, but i would say that that was a trend in and of itself. I just hate all swooshy animal head logos at this point including that one. 

That being said, i wish they would have done a Kachina with maybe some updated colors. I love the Kachina logos and stripe pattern but the colors are dull and could have used an update. They just don't show up well on TV.

53 minutes ago, Morgan33 said:

 

The league was really coming into its own during the period between the 2003 and 2007.  The wackier designs of the 90's were going by the wayside and a return to a more traditional aesthetic was beginning to take place organically.  You saw it in the Coyotes rebrand, the Flames return to red, the Bruins replacing their Pooh-Bear alternate with an Orr-era throwback, multiple teams returning to lace-up collars and the excellent All Star jerseys from the game in Minnesota. 

More importantly than that, newer teams were not trying to be something they weren't.  You didn't have Lightning masquerading as the Maple Leafs, The Hurricanes weren't using a diagonal-script, Nashville hadn't sucked all the life out of their identity, the Sharks still had their original (and perfect) colour scheme and Florida didn't feel the need to be another red team with a chest stripe.

Without the Reebok Edge debacle, it's not difficult to imagine the league being perfected within 3 to 5 years.   The Canucks were already transitioning to blue and green, the Bruins excellent cup-winning set eschewed the Edge aesthetic so it probably would've happened regardless, The Capitals wanted a return to Red as early as 02 and maybe the whole Buffaslug debacle doesn't happen without Reebok's influence.

My favorite era is late 80s - early 90s. After looking at the NHL Uniform database, I think the 89-90 season is great, including the All Star jerseys. Sure there are a few oddities, like the Leafs full arm yokes (i admittingly love those) and the North Stars adding black, but i love this era. That's my favorite Blues jersey and I love the yoke-less Bruins. 

http://www.nhluniforms.com/1989-90/1989-90.html

5 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

 

I don't think it takes too much effort to understand what he was saying. It wasn't a suggestion that the RR program isn't popular, but that the formula -- a throwback-inspired look in which the colors are flipped -- can only be done a limited number of ways for some teams. That, to me, is a perfectly logical take.

 

In general, I applaud the RR program -- compared to what Nike has done with the NBA, the Adidas concept manages bring something new to the table while displaying some restraint. But I could also easily see how the concept could either run its course or run the risk of turning into a Nike-esque series of clown costumes . I think @Ridleylash's idea of paying homage to prior franchises isn't a bad idea. Depending on who owned the IP, it would be cool to bring some old WHA identities back for a spin. 

 

Personally, I'd prefer just a straight-forward throwback program minus the "reverse" part of it.  

God, I would love to see this for the blues:

1 minute ago, 4_tattoos said:

So what's the deal with those white Rams helmets in the background?

 

Uh oh...

good catch

2 hours ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

Ooh that is nice. Really nice.

 

I still think the bone was a risk worth taking, but that white jersey is terrific.

I respectfully disagree with all of my soul.

When you have had some of the greatest uniforms in NFL history and you are primed for a rebrand in your new/old home, no risk like the color bone is needed. 

And i say this as a St. Louisan and former Rams fanatic. The old yellow/blue LA Rams uniforms were gorgeous and perfect just the way they were. And the Blue/white combo was great as well.

This is probably the instance where the LEAST amount of risk was needed. Just run out there in something classic looking. You're the RAMS FOR F'S SAKE! 

This new white jersey, while better than the bone, still doesn't do it for me. White and yellow next to each other, soccer numbers, new horn, horn and numbers don't have continuity with colors... so many issues still. Just not a good design.

2 hours ago, NYRFan said:

Yuck

I see very few redeeming qualities to this uni. It can't leave soon enough. 

 I agree. The Pit home and aways are great and should never be pushed aside for those alts. 

And some of you guys hate the name WFT? Woof that list is bad. 

50 minutes ago, _DietDrPepper_ said:

The hate for gray facemasks is stupid. It's like the grey away uniforms in baseball, it's a neutral color that works for every possible helmet in the NFL. There's only like a handful of teams I don't think would benefit from wearing a grey face mask permanently. 

I honestly can't stand the grey away uniforms in baseball. I'm indifferent on the facemasks. But I have never understood the grey in baseball. Why not a team in white and a team in the primary uniform color like other sports? 

If they pick a name, its going to be some kind of predatory animal or something to do with the nations capitol. And nothing will bore me more. Which is why i guess WFT doesn't bother me because at least it isn't that. Plus, based on their past name, whatever they pick will be as G rated as possible, which makes an animal an easy choice. My fear is that once they pick a name, they will basically have the branding of the Jags or Panthers in the colors of the WFT - swooshy animal head on the helmet and all. 

2 hours ago, ptaylor said:

 

I do get the appeal (feels classic and old school) and if the on-field product continues to improve then it could work.

 

But man, any time someone calls them 'The Football Team' I want to vomit. Will always feel like a placeholder name to me. 

I get this sentiment, but TBH even if they come up with a great name, it still wont feel right. Putting all debate of racism to the side, they are forever etched in my brain as the (Washington Football Team). That is kind of why i actually like "the football team." Giving them a different name at this point feels so gimmicky to me. As if they need a name just to make sure they have a mascot and so they can plaster an animal head on the helmet.

Ummmmm Cardinals.... we are all waiting...

1 hour ago, oldschoolvikings said:

It's just not worth it. The only team that I'd care to see an alternate helmet throwback from would be Tampa. The Buccaneers' current uniform is superior to the Buccos, but I'd still like to see those old orange ones maybe once a season. The other teams that get brought up as needing an alt helmet for throwbacks... namely Seattle and Philly... they just need to switch back to their old helmet colors full time. Seeing the Seahawks and/or Eagles wearing their massively superior old looks twice a year would just piss me off, and make me hate their current looks even more (if that's even possible with Seattle).

 

So the idea of opening the door to the possibility of even more mix-n-match chaos just to see the creamsicle Bucs every once in a while?  No thanks.

Your point about the mix-match chaos is 100% valid. BUT, I can think of a bunch of other teams that I would love a alternate helmet. For starters:

Rams (anything but their primary)

Cardinals (red helmet would be cool)

Titans (white)

Seahawks (gray)

Patriots

Buffalo (red)

And that's just off the top of my head. 

My only hesitation is that I feel like the NFL helmet is sort of more sacred than the uniform. Maybe it was collecting them from the gumball machine when i was a kid or something. But it sort of takes away from how special they are if teams have more than one.

1 hour ago, GFB said:

The colors are great; like the Cardinals, only bolder.

 

Everything else is not my cup of tea. I have a sinking feeling that the crest is going to look terribly dated in 5 years when trends change and rotated text goes out of style. 

I actually said to myself that it reminds me of the Cards road uniforms with the navy blue caps. 

Colors - 9/10

Crest - 6/10

Name - 3/10

That being said, as a St. Louisan sports nut, I'm sure I will be buying merch by the end of the day 

1 hour ago, Maroon said:

TODAY IS THE DAY!!!

 

MLS4TheLou shared their cardboard cutout audience picture last night:

 

 

I submitted a photo of myself before they they closed it off, but never heard if I'm out there somewhere... hopefully my mug is in the stands somewhere!

4 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

I actually like it. To each their own.

I'm with you. I personally love it, but that's because I have been eating it for over 30 years. Everyone likes the pizza they grew up on.

I think it is funny how divisive pizza styles are with people, especially provel cheese. 

4 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

Many describe him as a Nazi sympathizer. Others say he was simply a "pro-German" World War II isolationist. Seems like splitting hairs to me. 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/videos/category/history/charles-lindbergh-and-the-rise-of-1940s-nazi_1/

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-22684773/charles-lindbergh-the-nazis-and-american-isolationism

 

Thanks for the info. I honestly had no idea. Well I guess the dream is over haha

15 hours ago, the admiral said:

The Plot Against America just got turned into prestige TV, they'd never get away with honoring Lindbergh, are you crazy?

What did Charles LIndbergh do that would upset people? Honest to god, I have no idea... just curious

I have always wanted a St. Louis team to be named the Spirits of St. Louis. Not sure if it would fit for an MLS team, but that is such a great part of St. Louis history between Charles LIndbergh and the ABA team.