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I think you are correct in the fact that navy and neon have become their identity, but I don't think that means that they are tied to it for eternity. Maybe it is just my brain, but anything with a neon color like that just makes me think of a Monster energy drink. That branding might work if you are trying to get your drink to stand out in a cooler against other cans, but on the football field it has always just felt like a gimmick to me. I also don't think that the set as a whole has improved. The early 2000s era uniforms were pretty clean. Now the Seahawks, like many teams, have mixed and matched all of these elements into Frankenstein sets every week. Plus this newer set that they moved to in 2012 has so many little details that they have almost aged like the Bucs alarm clock uniforms in my mind. It's just too busy, especially for a color scheme that is already "in your face" with the neon green. The shoulder yokes are a mess, the pattern in the numbers is overkill. The pants stripe might be okay if those elements weren't there. I have also never loved the way the Seahawk logo gets lost on the helmet in the navy. I prefer the silver helmet because the logo pops a bit more. All in all, I think you are correct that the color scheme is their current identity, but that doesn't change the fact that I don't think it is a very good uniform.

Honestly, the stupid part about this broncos reveal has nothing to do with the helmet. I actually think its a great looking helmet. It's the color rush uni that makes it look bad. The color rush unis on almost every team are god awful and this is no different. Pair this new helmet with a set that makes sense and I think it would look fantastic.

I just want a helmet with the full horn. Navy/white, Blue/yellow, whatever... just give me the old horn.

I have long held this exact opinion. It could have played out almost exactly like it did in Cleveland with the Guardians. "Shift" the name but it still rings a bell for that franchises history since they sound similar. "Shift" the uniforms to the new name but keep your identity. Also I have posted this a few times back when they first came out with the Commanders branding, but I think the throwback below were absolutely fantastic out of Washington. If I were in charge of the rebrand, this would have been my basis for the rebrand - sans the old logos. This set and the name Pigskins would have worked really well IMO

This site is so much fun when there is a terrible uniform revealed. I'm laughing so hard that I'm crying at some of these posts.

I'm wondering if NFL aesthetics are finally turning a corner. I know these are throwbacks, but my god it looks so good to have pants, shoulder stripes, and sock stripes back in NFL uniforms. It just adds so much to the overall look. Maybe, just maybe, the leotard look is starting to be phased out.

Wow pants stripe AND sock stripes???? Looks really nice!

I said this before, but I enjoy the Angels CC. I also think the Rockies, Nationals, and Red Sox are good uniforms and fit the program perfectly. I'd even go out on a limb and say I like the Rockies CC better than their normal set which is so f'ing boring.

I think if the duck mask was less quirky I would dig it. It's like the entire jersey is serious, clean, and classic looking but then the duck mask is cartoony. I like all of the pieces of the jersey, but somehow they just don't fit together. It also just seems like they want to do anything BUT bring back the originals. They just keep dancing around it hoping the clamor for the original set goes away.

Without reading your post, I literally did the same thing I like the wordmark though. Looks nice.

Ok. I mean, you can say that, but sexuality is literally the only thing that makes the LGBTQ community a community. Just because you spin it into "acknowledging a group that’s historically been vilified" doesn't mean it isn't about sexuality. It's literally 100000% about sexuality. If it wasn't, there would be no group to acknowledge Just like if there weren't different races, there would be no reason to celebrate the great Jackie Robinson. That celebration is 100% about race. Race issues - a good lesson for children People's sexual activities - your free to do what you want, but doesn't really need to be a topic at a Blue Jackets and Red Wings game

I think this is comparing apples to oranges a bit. What makes this a bit different is that the players that don't want to wear the uniforms are doing so mostly because of religious beliefs. Whether or not you agree with those religious beliefs doesn't matter. They have the right to those beliefs under the First Amendment. So what you call bigotry is just the belief system of their religion. I'm not arguing for or against the NHL's decision to not do warmup jerseys. I'm claim zero religious beliefs so this statement isn't coming from an uber-Christian point of view. But you have players from Russian background, Christian backgrounds, etc that have the right to their beliefs. Full disclosure here: I don't care what people do in the bedroom. Have a great time as long as everyone is consenting and of age. But I've never understood why an arena of people would need to celebrate that by wearing pride jerseys. Especially when half of the stadium is children who should be more concerned about picking up a bobble head than celebrating people's sexual orientation.

One of my favorite Seinfeld episodes

You can do that for literally every major city though. MIA for Miami, CLE for Cleveland. Slapping PGH on the front is just lazy. At this point, I wish it was just an alt uniform rollout and drop the City Connect BS. The City Connect aspect seems like it is causing every one of these uniforms to have some cheesy element. In reality, I actually like this set a lot. Change that PGH on the front and this would be a killer alt uniform for the pirates. The PGH just downgrades the entire thing IMO

They should have made a new black alt that matched the primaries. That would be a great three jersey set

This is perfect for the Flyers honestly. The return of the original shade is great. They didn't have to reinvent the wheel here. The alternate is whatever. But that primary set is pretty close to perfect.

I think I dislike Anaheim's more, but I will agree with you (and we seem to be in the minority). As time goes on, the VGK arm striping bothers me more and more. I said it earlier on the thread, but that red stripe makes zero sense. Hell the white barely makes sense. Gold, black, and charcoal is all they need on that sweater. If you must enter either white or red or both, then at least do it in a way that is cohesive throughout the sweater. The gold doesn't bother me. Its the fact that they just used the original sweater design and paint bucketed the colors around to make a gold version that bothers me. It just doesn't work for some reason.

Panther's black helmet looks fine to me. I just wish there was a splash of silver on it, and the pants. Now, the silver stripes on the shoulders are basically the only silver in the set. Now those seem out of place to me. They went from being a pretty good balance of blue, silver, and black. I'm fine with them leaning more towards blue and black, but they needed to commit to that on the jersey as well.

The only two that I enjoy are the Rockies and the Angels. I think I like the Rockies just because of how insanely boring their day to day sets are. The addition of green is nice. I think the Angels set is great actually. I can't tell you how in the world it is a City Connect uniform, but I like the vibe of it.

The arm stripes on all of the Knights sweaters just bother me. A block arm, followed by a thick stripe, followed by a red stripe that just kind of floats there with no purpose. I think if those were fixed (and I'm not sure what the solution would be), then the shimmery gold is fine.

"How can we connect this to the city of Pittsburgh?" "Eh, just slap PGH on the front. Then we will just make up some BS about the angle of the letters being the same angles as some building or bridge." "Done"

First, I want to make clear that I do not like the ads. But, singling out the NHL is sort of ridiculous. At this point, every major sport other than the NFL has them. It always feels like MLS/soccer gets a free pass on this discussion too. Not sure if it is because everyone is so used to them. But the ad is literally the largest thing on the jersey. Again, I hate them. Hockey sweaters sort of have this sacredness to them, and I think that is why people seem more passionately against the ads in the NHL.

I know I shouldn't... but there's something I like about Washington Space Commanders

This will forever be my favorite Cardinals logo.

The Canucks issue is exactly like what we are talking about on the NFL thread about the Texans. It's extremely tough to establish a brand when your name is so vague. Your looking for a logo the identifies the team, but how do you visually create that when the name itself is so abstract? I don't know the right answers for either team . I'm not sure any of Canucks logos in the past have done a good job either.