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The Magpie on the crest looks far more like a European magpie than it does an Australian one, which is a pretty big problem as they are very different birds. It would be perfect if the crest depicted an Australian Magpie.

The A is better proportioned than the logo the team currently use. That said, it really needs the Tuscan Spurs and the Halo would look better in Gold.

4 hours ago, timberwolf said:

The A halo is quite strong already so I kept that piece of the design. The one major-ish change I made to the lettering was opting for a cleaner font that maintained the vibe of the current set but felt a little less Texas-y.

The Angels used a Tuscan font when they first started off in the MLB in 1961 up intill 1970, and introduced a Tuscan font in 1993, which was a year before the Rangers used a Tuscan font for the first time. The Angels have a claim to use Tuscan that is just as strong as the Rangers, probably even more so.

I don't think the script is an improvement on what the Angels currently use, which is pretty solid and only really needs the drop shadow removed, and the white outline on the road. The outline on the script could do with more space between the letters and without the drop shadow effect, and with Tuscan Spurs.

Overall, the set could be improved with a Tuscan font, no drop shadow effect and gold halos.

2 hours ago, neo_prankster said:

I would also suggest that you could get away with having the white socks have an orange/white/navy stripe pattern to mimic the Dutch flag.

You couldn't. The Dutch flag is red, white and blue, the flag you've described is the Prince's Flag, which formed the basis for the Apartheid era South African flag and is strongly associated with, and used by the Far Right in the Netherlands.

12 hours ago, CaptainBuzKill said:

The one they released is very bland. Almost nothing going on. But I like that they are paying tribute to the old Chicago Stadium... Here's my take...

 

 

Removed white, make the red pop a bit more. Added the Bulls logo in red to give it a bit more life. Filled empty space with a subtle Street Map of Downtown Chicago, also added the original sign on the side of the jersey, with the 6 point stars Chicago is synonymous with.

 

Thoughts?

The street map is pretty easy to make out, so it's not subtle. It's a really good design anyway.

The orange on the Roma change looks really burned, almost brown, and looks plain ugly, especially on its own and not bordered with the deep red and the yellow. What colour is the base supposed to be? It looks cream in the first picture, white in the others.

On 2023-10-30 at 8:47 PM, Cate said:

 

Going back I would actually change the logo on the back for Newcastle, while for the watermark crest on the front I wanted to put it because it was a hallmark of the jerseys (in general) of that era.

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Both of the 1995-96 Toon jerseys didn't have watermarks and were all the better for it.

10 hours ago, LaGrandeOrange said:

MLS's Minnesota United have one of the best aesthetics in all of sport, I'd love to see them here.

MN United should have been an option too.

Newcastle - Fine recreation of the classic 95-96 kit, I would get shot of the watermark crest on the front and just have the magpie on it's own on the back under the collar, as the 1980s crest was never intended to be rendered in that size and the magpie looks indistinct and the mag on it's own would look a lot better.

Slovenija - This is great. Only thing I would do is get rid of the watermark on the shirt as it distracts from the effect on the Triglav.

19 minutes ago, ruttep said:

Watching Rangers/Canucks tonight reminded me how much I disliked the Canucks removing stripes from their pants:

 

What was the point of removing stripes? Either leave well enough alone or make the thickness of the stripes match those on the jersey and stockings.

On 2023-10-27 at 6:25 PM, SFGiants58 said:

 

He's still spinning from somebody using his name to make generic supercars in Italy.

 

 

It'll be a while before he can muster up the rage for separating the wordmark and EB marks out of a roundel.

On one hand, the EB110 did have quad turbos, four wheel drive and in the SuperSport configuration as in that picture, it put out more power than almost anything, and to be fair, the styling was quite distinctive. On the other, that styling was challenging to say the least, and it was launched at the same time as a global recession and as the McLaren F1.

Anyway, they aren't actually changing the logo that goes on the horseshoe grille, which is probably the most important thing and on which it looks great. The article in the OP is from 2022, and they haven't changed the badge on the new Mistral, so it looks like they aren't changing the logo for where it matters the most.

22 hours ago, Morgan33 said:

This Rangers jersey has got to be up there with the Turd Burger, the black Islanders script and the Devil's current third "Jersey" as one of the most unapologetically hideous alternate designs in recent memory...  This abomination, and I do not use that term lightly, is not fit for a minor league team let alone an Original Six franchise.

What was the goal here?  To take the most universally loathed uniform in Rangers history and make it exponentially worse?   Using any of the three Liberty designs would have been a better direction to take.  Absolutely hate it!

I'd like to see the Rangers add hem striping to the navy Lady Liberty jersey and see if that works. Never been a fan of jerseys that don't have hem striping and/or a chestband, always felt like the bottom of the jersey felt "empty".

On 2023-10-19 at 5:39 PM, vtgco said:

Totally appreciate the simplification for Puebla, and I agree that the ideas (not execution) behind that old logo are certainly better than the generic crest they have now. 

I would consider simplifying a bit more, by removing the blue ground, enlarging the castle so it meets the bottom of the inner roundel, and moving "19" and "44" to the sides of the outer roundel.

Thanks! I wanted to have La Franja on the crest somewhere, as it's the defining feature of the uniforms of the team and also it's nickname, and I feel it would lose something without it, and moving the foundation dates to the sides would put it a bit too close to "City Group" roundel territory for me.

On 2023-10-19 at 5:39 PM, vtgco said:

Not feeling the roundel for Sheffield Wednesday. The quarter circles one is definitely the best of those options, but I kinda feel like the '70s crest works better without a container. Your font choice is excellent, though!

I wanted to see if I could make one that fitted the owl, which wasn't easy considering the shape of it and incorporate a Factory Pomo style, which is why I used that font, which is FP AF. I agree though that the 70's crest works best just on it's own and thats the way I would have it on a jersey.

Crest redesign for Grenoble Foot 38, this combines the three roses from the city logo of Grenoble with a representation of its cable cars, in which the initials of the team (in Belgrad) is placed. The shape of the crest was dictated by needing to accomodate the cable cars and the three roses, and gold is added to the blue and white of the current colour scheme, as gold and blue are the colours of the province of Dauphiné, which Grenoble was the capital of.

C&C would be cool.

12 hours ago, raysox said:

Greater Manchester Inferno

One thing in the back of my head I wanted to do was have a shield logo kicking around. Not that I planned for it to be for Greater Manchester, but I think it works. Wait, what about that name huh? Well, it's the name of the county that Manchester is in obviously. I chose that because the stadium I penciled them in to play in is in Bolton and I was unsure how cool it would be to use it for a large suburb. The crest features a GM monogram with flames at the bottom to fill the negative space.

The Toughsheet Community Stadium isn't in the town of Bolton, rather the Metropolitan borough -  it's on the outskirts of a town called Horwich and is 5 miles from the actual town of Bolton itself. Many people consider what is Greater Manchester to still be either Lancashire or Cheshire depending on what county it was previously part of, and nobody considers Bolton to be a suburb of Manchester  - it is its own town, like most of the towns in what is called Greater Manchester. The Toughsheet is far from being a well located Stadium,  the City of Manchester Stadium or Old Trafford (as run down as that place is) would be better bets.  So I would change the name to Manchester Inferno and have the team play at the City of Manchester Stadium, which is a bigger venue and much easier to get to than the stadium in Horwich.

I'd also just use the name Manchester Inferno, as it's almost certainly what everyone would call the team anyway. You could even keep the GM in the logo (which looks great) and have it stand for "Gridiron Manchester".


 

Penrith is great. The Panther looks a lot better in a different art style and off the roids.

On 2023-05-16 at 2:28 AM, Dilbert said:

This is a going to be a separate club from Loyal. The Loyal will remain in the USL Championship

On 2023-05-16 at 4:43 AM, WestCoastBias said:

 

Yeah as of right now, can change though 

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I would just choose one shoulder patch for both road and home, rather than splitting the difference.

6 hours ago, gosioux76 said:

 

MLS, though, has proven to be the one professional league that has been a reluctant exception to this sort of pattern. The fact that Chicago and Montreal back-tracked on new logos in the past two years suggests to me that San Diego could do the same. I wouldn't be surprised if they do. 

They didn't back track all the way with Montreal though - the Fleur de-lys was brought back, but the front office/MLS decided that the Impact name wasn't coming back.

I would also argue both teams logos are downgrades from what they had before the ill-advised rebrands - Montreal no longer have their motto and lost the Impact with the new somewhat bland roundel, and while the new logo for the Fire is good, it's not as good as the original, which was probably the closest any of the original MLS teams founded in the 1990s got to a timeless look.

My guess is that they get rid of all the effects on the grey/white/chrome parts of the logo for a flat look and thats it.

8 hours ago, GFB said:

While the logo is simpler, the entire brand direction is the exact opposite of "blanded the f*** out." 

 

If you tell me with a straight face that the new branding is more "bland," then I'm never going to be able to convince you of anything.

I was talking about the logo, and as that is part of the brand, which with this rebrand, fits in with the wider trend of the minimalism at present, and its a trend that Ettore Bugatti would, judging by his creations and his family history (his father was a jeweller and a key figure in the Art Nouveau movement), would have wanted no part of.

And to my eyes, the new branding does feel more bland, and fits in with the trend towards minimalism. It feels colder, more sterile and a VW group product rather than carrying on the legacy of the orginal company, with the logo not even looking like a logo, rather just the name of the company in a font that is almost identical to the ones used on German trains.

9 hours ago, GFB said:

Again, that's a rudimentary interpretation of the brand direction. You say it's minimalistic and therefore fundamentally opposed to the vision of Bugatti;  I say it's restrained on purpose to highlight and allow the opulence of the car photography and lighting textures to shine through. If the branding was as visually stimulating as the car,  there's a real argument to be made that you're only muddying the water.

 

There is absolutely a time and a place to wring your hands about a brand going way too vanilla... Johnson & Johnson is a great example. But there's a clear vision and purpose to this rebrand and, considering what it's replacing (again, there's not a lot of actual replacing being done, just clean up work), it's probably an upgrade.

 

There is being restrained and then there is blanding something the f*** out. The new Bugatti logo is a textbook example of the latter. All they had to do was drop the gradients and get shot of the drop shadow. Instead, they got rid of almost everything except the font.

15 minutes ago, GFB said:

I'm all for the hysterics any time a classic logo gets updated, but the Bugatti badge has always been fugly and without seeing any of the new direction in context (the actual car badge, marketing materials, website, etc), this could absolutely be an improvement.

Problem with this update is that it not only gets rid of everything except the font and the EB monogram, it's also part of a trend that would have, quite simply, been anethema to Ettore Bugatti. The last word when you think of Bugatti, of the cars it has made, is minimalism.
 

The Huddersfield raised fist G looks great.

I like the idea of the Parramatta logo, but the eel doesn't look like a eel, with the head shape and the wavy fin that starts a lot further forward than most eels, and it doesn't have the googly eyes of most eels either. I would much perfer if it looked like an eel.  The Parramatta type looks good, but for the EELS, a non tilted font might work better, that part looks a bit awkward with more space between the inner shield edge and the E than there is for the S.

2 hours ago, WBeltz said:

I would suspect that MLS teams use the WC template, as it seems like usually the templates carry over for 2 seasons, before moving to a new one. 

The MLS Exclusive template was only used for new kit rollouts for the 2020 season with the exception of Austin, who used that template for their 2021 change, which was replaced the following year. A new template was released for 2021, and a new one the following year, which St Louis used for their change kit for this season. This year, the teams used a new template that was first introduced during the 2022 World Cup. 

It's likely that a new template will be introduced.

1 minute ago, MJWalker45 said:

 

The uniforms were likely already designed prior to the new logo release, so they're rolling with what was already made for them. 

So there is a chance Seattle could be wearing pea soup coloured shirts for two years after finally changing the shade of green.

42 minutes ago, Toronto206 said:

Why wouldn’t the Sounders use the colors they just unveiled on their new home kit?

They have a brain fart and go back to the old shades?

Here are the new shades of green and blue side by side with the old ones. The new ones are brighter and for my money at least, a lot nicer.

That SDT kit is too nice. Love the sunset above the mission, the tiles in different shades of blue and the lighter blue of the shorts, collar and cuffs. Top job.
 

17 hours ago, vtgco said:

Thank you! Glad you like it, though I worry it's too throwback Galaxy-esque...

Los Galaticos had their chance to own teal and gold/orange, but looks like white, gold and the two shades of blue are their main colours now. And even back when Galaxy were rocking the teal, black had a big part in their scheme between 1996 and 2004. Besides, the wave part of the logo of the City of San Diego is teal and orange, so as far as I'm concerned, San Diego have every right to use those colours, and I think they probably should.

Ettore Bugatti once said "Nothing is too Beautiful, nothing is too expensive".  His designs were intricate, forward thinking and when it came to luxury, the dude didn't take half measures. I doubt he would have approved of the blanding out of the logo in the slightest.