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Klondyke

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  1. I will never get why teams don't market test different designs. Just because designers like something, does not mean the public will
  2. The "Winnipeg Jets" name and IP was owned by the Yotes and was past along to the NHL when the Yotes went into bankrupncy. One of the reasons they took the name is they were able to just buy the IP from the league. I am a business owner and the process of registering trademarks has become slower and more complicated in recent years. If they wanted to get a name quickly, I think the best thing they could do would be to buy an existing IP like the "Utah Grizzlies" (ECHL team). Although it sounds like their owner wants a unique brand. Their owner (who also owns the Jazz) hinted he wants uniformed branding with that team and something representative of the SLC market. I am going to speculate that they will go with purple.
  3. The (FKA) Denver (now Utah) "Grizzlies" were founded in 1994, a year before the (FKA) Vancouver Grizzlies played a game in 1995. I think they would be able to use the name if they were to purchase it. FTR, I don't even like the name, but it just might be the option that is easiest with all the copyright issues
  4. There is already a team in SLC called the Grizzlies and they have played in the IHL/AHL/ECHL Getting a name through the copyright process in time for 2024/25 might be the biggest challenge. This took the Washington Commanders two years to do. The NHL Jets only got the name because the Coyotes were owned by the league and they just transferred the name to the team Buying the naming rights to the Grizzlies might be their best option
  5. I am a City Planner and my entire career is based around dealing with developers. While i think hockey will go back to Phoenix, this development is a half assed mess, that was rushed and has absolutely no forsite for the following reasons: 1. THERE IS NO PARKING IN THESE DESIGNS. Arena developments not near a Transportation loop need about 8-12k worth of parking spots. That is WAY too high of a capacity to put underground. 2. Those roads around the arena way way too narrow to support 8k-12,000 cars. It would take an hour just to leave the block. If they city were to expand the roads, it would be on taxpayers to pay for it. There is also a residential development to the north east, and while I am not totally familiar with Phoenix government, I imagine they don't want to deal with that. 3. There is no transportation in the area. Expanding it would also cost taxpayers money. The Scottsdale mayor pretty much stated these concerns are way he's opposed to it 4. Maybe they are changing the name back to "Phoenix", but the fact the arena says "Phoenix" on it in the Coyotes font makes me just think this is a lazy oversite. If you look at the 2nd rendering I posted, it also has their own mascot wearing an outdated Coyotes jersey. 5. They don't seem to have talked to any government body in the region. There very well could be neighbourhood bylaws that prevent them from using something like a goal horn past a certain time, or even have the arena's lights on too bright. Points 3 & 4 could just be oversites, but the lack of attention to detail just screams to me that this is a person who is not very well organized.
  6. The Coyotes current owner seems to be a bit of an idiot. I work in real estate and the time line he gave to build this new arena near Scottsdale was never doable. Things like a water services agreement with a neighbouring city need to be worked out WAY in advance. Instead, it seemed like the project never even knew they needed something like that. While Alex Meruelo (owner of the Yotes) has money in real estate, he's never developed anything before and does not really seem to understand the bureaucratic hurdles that come with a massive mixed-use development like that. I looked at the renderings and there was absolutely no parking included in it and I am guessing they made no attempt to coordinate with the local transportation system to set up service.
  7. The way it was phrased, was more to do with a legal situation. They don't the current Yotes owner to have reason to sue them. If he gets to keep the rights to the name/IP of the Coyotes/Jets history, and gets first rights at a new team (which is speculated to have a 5 year window), he would have less reason to sue the NHL. From the way Elliotte Friedman was talking, it does NOT sound like the NHL wants to do business with the Yotes owner again, but will want to put a team back there in the near future. Right now, the NHL just seems most concentrated and getting the team out of there. It looks like they will give him a 5 year window, with them not expecting to get the arena deal done. This came out in a different news source, but it also sounds like the Coyotes farm team will be relocated to Mullet Arena because they currently have a lease there.
  8. Just a note, the Aquilini family (owners of the Canucks) has always preferred blue and green.
  9. One of the reasons Winnipeg got the Jets name back is because they had 2 months to find something and since (at the time) the Coyotes were owned by the NHL, they were able to transfer the IP back to Winnipeg. Copyright stuff can lag for a while, so the best option might be for the Utah ownership to buy existing IP. I could easily see a deal with the Utah Grizzlies (former AHL, now ECHL team) to buy that name. The Utah Grizz have been operating in Salk Lake City since 1995 and are well known in the market. Outside of the Jets, the only modern instance I can think of with a quick relocation where the team was compelled to change their name is the Baltimore Ravens.
  10. Beat me to it! Other general notes: -The name/branding of the Coyotes is going to be 'deactivated' - it will be a Cleveland Browns situation -Utah is going to be trying to make the playoffs next year and will be very active in free agency
  11. Vancouver FC revealed a new Cherry Blossom kit
  12. Canucks have a few retro jerseys for sale at their team store. They're all Mitchell and Ness (and terribly quality compared to the OG CCM's). I am guessing that's what these will be
  13. Lions have told season ticket holders to look-out for a jersey that celebrate their 70th.. No idea if its going to be a retro or just a new third. They were really vague about it
  14. Back in my graphic design days, I once mindlessly created a logo for a gardening company that looked almost identical the the Soviet Hammer and Sickle. It looked so powerful, I really thought it was my best work until I realized I subconsciously ripped off the Soviet logo. We've also seen this a few times in some soccer kits, where they accidentally put something resembling to a Swastika in the design pattern. Not going to dump on anyone personally, but those who have more extreme sensibilities are disproportionately more likely to have some sort of mental health issue, so I don't think it' really worth piling on. Society's (and the design world's) issue is that we used to take these people with a grain of salt and understand the context of their situation. Now we don't.
  15. They were terrible live. This picture makes it look wawy better than what it was
  16. Worked for the Sharks. Marketing departments know well in advance what jerseys teams are going to wear in the playoffs. Playoff merch is the biggest sellers of the year and teams want their branding to figured out in advance. People like you with no sources, who talk out of their ass is one of the most entertaining things I see on here. Like when you wake up each morning, do you go "well its time for me to post on the internet as if I am an expert in a field I have no experience in".
  17. From what I have been told from my season ticket rep, is each team will only be wearing two jerseys next year. Of course he could be wrong, but interesting teams are still releasing 3rds I also asked my rep about the Canucks jersey, there is a chance the black skate will be the jersey for the playoffs.
  18. I am guessing if/when the NBA adopts this, they will have various rules regarding colours and animations on the court. My biggest concern, is how many game delays will we get because the tech is glitching. There are still clock and scoreboard malfunctions every year in the NBA/NHL. Refs can use a manual clock if/when needed in those cases, but its not like they can quickly paint a new key or three point line
  19. For anyone wondering, I checked in with the team's PR department. They told me they are technically Houston Oilers throwbacks and not Tennessee Oilers throwbacks. It seems like they are intentionally keeping the branding vague on their website, with little mention of a city/state name anywhere on the merchandise. I am guessing they want sales from both Tenn and Houston fans. Well it wont be the first time in NFL history two teams are representing the same city visually (not including NY, LA, or those old Chicago teams)
  20. With how much revenue COULD be generated from merch sales, I still remind shocked at how few teams test conceptual designs with fan engagement. Anyone who has worked in design know how often bad designs come from meddling clients who have no real conception about art.
  21. Live in Vancouver. Without a car (which most people in Van don't have) it's a 2 hour commute to that stadium. Calling it "Vancouver" is awfully generous
  22. Knights jerseys tonight don't have an ad on them. They specifically unveiled the ads on the gold jersey They HAVE been on the jerseys in pre-season, but only the pre-season games in Vegas. My only guess is that the ad deal is tied to when they actually wear the jerseys at home (tonights game is in LA and LA is wearing their 3rds)
  23. Get to Calgary a lot. The fans still massively prefer the Black C jerseys. Specifically the ones they wore before the RBK Edge came to life
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