Harmening Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I like that you put the gray outline on the numbers. (blue jersey). I wonder what compelled them to go with a WHITE outline on white numbers. I wore that style of jersey when I played seventh grade football in 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebod39 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 when I worked within Nike Team Sports, this color consistency issue came upevery year amongst our group as something to address with the 'boys.We presented them a "color consolidaton" presentation every year for 3 yearsincluding even the endzones, stadium colors and business cards and letterhead. While they did see the validity in our points, they just couldn't bring themselves to ever do it. Inever really got an answer other than they just didn't want to. I do agree that the home whites are an institution now much like the Yankees pinstripes.They are untouchable and made more so by the fact that it willtake an act of god for this organization to do anything to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 I also had heard that Jerry Jones is color-blind. For real. And, that he couldn't really tell that there even was a difference in all of the metallics. And that this was one of the main reason for the inconsistencies.One curious thing though - in my research, I have found that the Royal Blue that the Cowboys use in the White jerseys changes Pantones all the time. It's been changed like 4 or 5 times since 1987... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Record Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'd have tried keeping the metallic silver green. Are you SURE????: Even though the silver green may not be the most aesthetically pleasing choice, I think it is one color that just says "Dallas Cowboys". I'd be all for them using the silver green as the only gray/silver shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Another thing I'll add about the "Silver-Green": from what I can tell, they only started using this color around 1995 or so. Prior to Pantone (the company, not me!) adding the extended (blended) metallics in the '90s, the Cowboys used a custom metallic ink mix for their Silver Blue color. Once a Pantone Metallic that fit their needs came into play, they adopted it but then added a second one for the home pants. Not sure exactly when this happened. I have a 1987 style guide sheet that shows the "Custom Silver Blue", a 1995 sheet that shows the Silver Blue and the Silver Green, and this continues through 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Record Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Another thing I'll add about the "Silver-Green": from what I can tell, they only started using this color around 1995 or so. Prior to Pantone (the company, not me!) adding the extended (blended) metallics in the '90s, the Cowboys used a custom metallic ink mix for their Silver Blue color. Once a Pantone Metallic that fit their needs came into play, they adopted it but then added a second one for the home pants. Not sure exactly when this happened. I have a 1987 style guide sheet that shows the "Custom Silver Blue", a 1995 sheet that shows the Silver Blue and the Silver Green, and this continues through 2005. Interesting. I was a Cowboys fan in the folly of my youth. When they canned Landry I canned them.Do you know how this silver green compares to the color(s) they used in the 70's and early 80s? It looks distinctly Cowboys to me and invoked that time period. Of course, I've had a few beers since back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Here's what I have estimated for 1979 - the year before switching to the Navy Blue jerseys and Silver pants for the road:These are estimated colors - I don't believe NFL teams started using Pantones until the early '80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epper Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Pantone, i think your first concept is pretty much perfect. good addition of the star to the sleeve of the home jersey, and good job getting rid of the nasty "silver-green", one of the ugliest colours in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 It's really nice. I might try lightening the silver, though. The Metallic Silver Blue I'm using is the exact same one that the Cowboys are already using for the helmet color. I use the RGBs for metallics that Pantone, Inc. have designated as correct for computer monitors. They look EXACT to what they'd look like if they were printed using metallic inks, but they do tend to be a little darker than what most graphic programs would show inherently.I know what you mean though. Trust me - this color wouldn't look as dark if they were printed with metallic inks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacker12 Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Man, this is basically what I had in mind for the Cowboys. The only difference in my design was that I didn't have the pinline numerals. In the dark jersey, I had white numbers with a silver blue outline. On the white jersey, I had navy numbers with the silver blue outline. Also, I had the star on the sleeves smaller and more like they have on the actual navy jerseys. Otherwise, this looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Funny everyone seems to think that the stars on the sleeves are too big......this was taken from the official graphics...they're that big in the Cowboys' style guide... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirginiaTechSucks Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 minus the fact the cowboys can rot in hell for a million years you did a very good job on them. I just wish the Skins would listen and make the 70th anniversary throwbacks permanant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Record Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Here's what I have estimated for 1979 - the year before switching to the Navy Blue jerseys and Silver pants for the road:These are estimated colors - I don't believe NFL teams started using Pantones until the early '80s. Thanks. It's interesting how memories and perceptions change over time. If quizzed, I probably would've picked the silver/green every time.Seeing the late 70s colors, though, I'm sure they're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruColor Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 Bumpin' this because I don't think my buddy CowboyKevin has seen these yet......and I keep forgetting to tell him about them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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