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I quote this because I've found another case of this happening: the PlayStation 2 version of NBA 2K9 still features the Seattle SuperSonics, 2 months after their messy & controversial move to Oklahoma City. (Just take that in... ) Of course, having said that... As far as I can tell this is the only place where the PS2 version acknowledges the move: as a URL on a fake decorative web browser in the game's Association mode. I wonder why they even bothered at that point, to be honest. The 360 & PS3 versions, however, do accurately feature the Thunder, since those builds of the game were finalised almost a month after the PS2 port was - July 14 for the PS2 version, compared to August 8 for the 360/PS3 one; also the ability to patch logos, unis, etc. onto those consoles after release compared to the PS2's online capabilities, such as they were.

I'd be very surprised if this hasn't been posted here already, but since he's currently playing in the Stanley Cup Finals: Zdeno Chara in his rookie season; he played 25 games with the Islanders in 1997-98, their 3rd & last season in the notorious fishstick jerseys. I may be wrong, but unless there's someone I'm forgetting, Chara is the final active player who wore those things in a game. (as I typed this post Chara blocked a shot with his mouth and had to leave the game... Fisherman's curse? )

If flags count, then the Flames do currently. Aside from that, the only example that comes to mind is the Coyotes' old Goals For Kids patch on one shoulder, then the same logo but reading "Phoenix Coyotes" on the other shoulder. FAKE EDIT: The Blue Jackets themselves did this! In the back-half of the CJB era, 2003-2007, they replaced Stinger's head on the shoulder with the cap logo on one shoulder and the current primary on the other.

While I hesitate to call it a good logo aesthetically, I do think that the Columbus Blue Jackets' original, pre-debut primary: ...Is at least more interesting than the logo they replaced it with: I still initialise them as "CJB" wherever I can because of this silly thing.

I bring this up again because I think I've stumbled upon something interesting about this uniform. Consider this: for the 1999-00 season there were five different NHL games on the market: EA's NHL 2000, Sony/989's NHL Faceoff 2000, Fox Interactive's NHL Championship 2000, Konami's NHL Blades of Steel 2000, and Sega's NHL 2K. EA & Sony's offerings came out before the season started (with Faceoff hitting stores on an incredibly early August 31), Fox's released right as the season was beginning, and Konami & Sega's games came out in early-2000 when the season was already half-over. I bring this up because as I've discovered, the other two games that released on or ahead of time, Faceoff and Championship, have more-or-less the exact same away jersey for the Thrashers as NHL 2000 did, with minor differences like number fonts and sock designs. Faceoff: Championship: (Not the best photos so I apologise, these old games' replay systems are a bit janky. ) So what to make of this? Either: -3 competing game studios didn't know what the jersey was going to look like, and they all made the exact same wrong guess, essentially; or my new theory: -This was actually planned to be the Thrashers' away jersey, and it was shelved before the season started but after the games were finalised.

The Down Goes Brown book was talked about before, and having spent the last 2 weeks reading through it I really have to mention the insane 1970 draft "lottery" that it talks about in one part. That year they gave the expansion Sabres & Canucks the top picks, but apparently decided flipping a coin to see who picked #1 was too easy, so they hastily brought out a big wheel with 13 numbers on it, decided landing on a 7 would be a respin to make the wheel actually even, and then let the teams pick what half of the wheel they got. Buffalo won the right* to pick so they took 8-13, Vancouver was left with 1-6, and so they spun. President Campbell then announced that the winning number was 1 for the Canucks, but Sabres GM Punch Imlach noticed something: the winning number was actually eleven and it was shown vertically as 1 1 instead of "11" on the wheel, which Campbell proceeded to misread. So, Vancouver got swerved, Buffalo won the #1 pick and got Gilbert Perreault; the Canucks settled on Dale Tallon and the rest is history. * - how did the Sabres win the right to pick first? Easy, they flipped a coin

Ah yes, the "I'd rather be anywhere else" face, a classic

Guess we'll never know for sure where he disappeared to during the "have another donut!" mess.

huh, I didn't realise Jeff Gordon had a career in hockey journalism before getting into stock car racing :V

Oh man, I remember that Greatest Uniforms poll the NHL did for their centennial last year, I think I'll go see the results again- ...oh

If I had my way Detroit and Toronto would still be in the West. I know, "muh timezones", but I think they both had better rivalries over there anyways: Detroit had San Jose & especially Colorado, Toronto had St. Louis & arguably Los Angeles and they both had Chicago and obviously each other; and I think splitting the "Original Six" 3 per conference was a better setup than dumping 5 in the same conference anyways, and leaving Chicago on their own to feud with St. Louis and... Nashville, I guess?

Saw someone on Facebook compare Dundon's short run with the Hurricanes thus far to Loria and the Expos; which, for starters: But also, the difference being that once upon a time people actually cared about the Montreal Expos.

I'm just gonna point out that the only reason Bettman got the job in 1993 was because President Gil Stein resigned in disgrace after nominating himself to the Hall of Fame. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but maybe wait until he's out of the job before considering him for the Hall?

I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have a salvageable look. To me this set has an amazing colour balance; the way the brighter red pops with the pewter and orange just looks so good. Change the still-terrible number font and shrink the logo on the helmet a bit, and I think their uniforms become among the best in the NFL.

That was the only jersey in the Capitals' 90s identity I actually liked. Once they ditched that for the black alternate, the one with bronze numbers you could barely even read half the time, I was like "nah, you guys can just rebrand now"

I feel the same way - it's funny how I can agree with him a lot on politics, yet I find him so much more fun, entertaining and funny when he's covering sports.

Only the goddamn NHL could try and influence a foreign election to suit their own needs and fail at it.

In other news, lockout-instigator and Growing The Game™ expert Jeremy Jacobs thinks Quebec City is "too challenged" to support an NHL team: https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bruins-owner-jeremy-jacobs-quebec-nhl-market-theyre-challenged/

Yeah, most of the uniforms that came out in the 90s I either loathe or like ironically, meaning I like it because it's stupid but never wanna see it actually come back ever again, except maybe as an April Fools' Day stunt.

Tacky, busy, and just plain stupid: How are these popular, especially around here? I just don't get it. A lot of those crazy bad uniforms from the 90s look tame compared to these. (Actually, that might answer my question - stupid 90s stuff is in right now. )

I can't help but wonder if the NHL will ask for another $500M from Quebecor for a second expansion bid, and then hang 'em out to dry once again.

This isn't so unpopular on this board (I don't think?) but apparently the Stampeders' 2-colour helmet they use with their black alternate jersey is really popular amongst CFL fans, and I just don't understand it at all: It's bad enough that it's just a recolour of the Jaguars' awful helmet, but the front's flat and the back's shiny - its not consistent at all, and that just really irritates me.

Here's my alt-history, hindsight is 20/20, "fantasy booking" take: if Karmanos was so intent on moving the Whalercanes to North Carolina in 1997 then he should've went to Charlotte instead of Raleigh. Not only would they not have needed to waste 2 dreadful years in Greensboro but they would've likely played at the old 21,000 seat Coliseum, in a city that had recently proved it actually did like pro sports. Now you might say, "what about the Hornets?" Indeed, I'm going to just assume this was something the team was worried about at the time, and I believe it's been brought up in this very thread as well. The funny thing is, while the Hornets indeed drew an impressive 23,405 fans per game in 1997-98, the 'Canes first season in Greensboro, that fell to 19,232 per game in 1998-99 due to the NBA lockout. And from there their attendance completely cratered as Hornets owner George Shinn basically alienated the entire city (in 2001-02, their last season in Charlotte, they drew just 11,286 per game) which led to their move to New Orleans in 2002 - just in time, I might add, for the Hurricanes' Cinderella playoff run that very spring. If that happens in a recently-scorned city looking for a new team to cheer for, instead of a city seemingly-apathetic to pro sports (not to mention the 2 seasons afterwards with no NBA team at all to compete with, or the decade they would've gone against the "who gives a " Bobcats after that) and maybe they could've made it work in Charlotte. Obviously it's too late now, the Spectrum as it is would be about as good for hockey as Barclays Center is - indeed, even the Checkers moved out a couple of years back - and obviously they would've had no idea any of the drama with the Hornets was gonna happen, but if at some point they decided "Hell, let's take a chance on Charlotte anyways" they might've lucked into some success. Hell, at the very least I'm willing to bet it would've still gone better than it has in Raleigh!

Well, actually, LEDs do produce heat, just less than other light-sources. Still, get 29 million pixels worth of them, and that adds up...

One thing that occurred to me about this set: swap out the front crest and replace the arm-sash(?) with standard stripes and this is basically what they're wearing now.