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500,000 people. That's 12,000 a game. The "best case scenario" involves being dead last in league attendance by a wide margin. Keep on reaching for the stars, Yvonne. These people are dumber than dog . Pretty sure the "500,000 people" was a generalized guesstimate and a sort of blanket statement when talking to the media. Her math is all about positive cash flows not actual calculations.

I liked those Packers uniforms too. So 80's, yet so awesome. Madden13 or Madden14 needs to have a Teambuilder so we can create throwback looks and teams that aren't in the game.

Have you ever been to Boulder? How much closer does it have to get to the Rockies? It backs up to the "front range" of the Rocky Mountains. I wouldn't say it's in the High Plains. Denver's airport is in the "High Plains". Boulder is not.

They're not racing stripes...

As a logo Elvis is better than Pat. However, the uniforms Elvis has been associated with...suck, while the uniform Pat is associated with is timeless and could easily be one of the best in the league, still. The Patriots' winning percentage over the last 19 seasons while Elvis was on the helmet is one of the highest in sports, all-time, for that long of a stretch. Only 3 losing seasons since Elvis debuted in Spring, 1993 (1993, 1995, 2000). I think it's safe to say Flying Elvis has been good to the Patriots. The throwback alternate is great as an alternate.

On the road. In overtime. 24 hours after a school tragedy. The plane crash is so overstated and not really relevant. The football players have little connection to a WBB coach. More relevant is that they blew a 17 point lead in the 2nd half. Except they interact every day in athletics facilities. No big deal. Plus it's more of a "That could have been us" dynamic. The guy in the black sweater is OSU football player Jamie Blatnick.

On the road. In overtime. 24 hours after a school tragedy. If the rankings weren't subjective, you'd have a point. Statistically, it's an anomoly that the two best teams are in the same conference. You have 70-to-80 BCS schools. There's a good chance that at least 1 outside of your own conference is worthy of playing for a National Championship, and that's not even considering the smaller-confernce schools such as Boise, TCU, et al. I don't know about that. Playing a team for the first time is a lot different than playing a team you just played 10 weeks earlier. Exactly. Only the big power schools are hurt. Everyone else loves it when a smaller school beats the overwhelming favorite.

Nevermind that that bowls were designed to be post-season exhibitions and didn't actually count in the standings for quite some time (until the late 1960s IIRC). It never made any sense to use them to determine champions in the first place. Exactly right, that's all they were. Exhibitions and rewards for good seasons. If we go by college football "tradition", the bowls are to be played for the fans and the press, and then the press determines who is best. That tradition died, and so can the bowl system for a more appropriate playoff.

I like how he says January 1st is pretty much a college football holiday. The last time January 1st was a great holiday filled with a bunch of entertaining and/or meaningful bowl games was like 1997. Remember when it was a day when about 14 games were played from morning till late night? When the Fiesta, the Rose, the Orange, and the Sugar all kicked off within 5 hours of each other? THAT was tradition, and it went by the wayside due to money. The bowl system, despite the long tradition that existed before revenues increased exponentially, is arguably outdated in this age of money and absolute no-argument champions.

Ditto this - I don't really frequent this thread that much, but I did go back several pages...and Legend, you're a funny dude. Well done, sir.

You really think the extra travel cost to pay for distances between schools is a significant cost for WVU?

Really...in the world?? Billy Joel is a hell of a musician. Maybe not the BEST, but certainly not overrated. Piano Man is great, and Middle of the Night is no slouchy music. He's got talent.

So they'd be just like Georgia...

You might want to try your math again when you add up the three scores, but at least you finally see what the data shows. And where are you getting UNR is one of the fastest growing universities? Enrollment hasn't really spiked up since 2007. UNR's 4-year graduation rate is 15%. It's 6-year rate is 48%. Less than half the undergraduates finish school in six years. It's tough to grow when people are leaving. I meant physically growing. Apparently, according people in the area, there are cranes running every day, and they're apparently going to renovate their stadium. You meant little (again). Especially since the athletic department is close to the $4M minimum in scholarship money to be class as D-1. Along the same lines as the scholarship money, Nevada's stadium barely meets D-1 capacity standards. Easy to change? Yes. Easy to fill? Not really.

You might want to try your math again when you add up the three scores, but at least you finally see what the data shows. And where are you getting UNR is one of the fastest growing universities? Enrollment hasn't really spiked up since 2007. UNR's 4-year graduation rate is 15%. It's 6-year rate is 48%. Less than half the undergraduates finish school in six years. It's tough to grow when people are leaving. Undergraduate enrollment went up by a total of 1,300 students over last five years

If this is true, why do WSU freshman have a higher average high school GPA (3.42 compared to 3.35), and why did WSU admit a lower percentage of students than UNR? Let's see, is it easier to get into a school that admits 76% of its applicants, or 88% of its applicants? And according to Collegedata.com, WSU's average SAT score were higher (1770 for WSU, 1750 for UNR, based on upper range of average scores). Weird. If you want facts, go to collegedata.com Quit making up :censored:ty statistics. You're making yourself look retarded, and I look retarded arguing with a retard like you. Let's just leave it alone since he has a "talent" in BS. Not to mention he's not even old enough to go to college yet. Just ignore him. He's like an itch you can't scratch.

If this is true, why do WSU freshman have a higher average high school GPA (3.42 compared to 3.35), and why did WSU admit a lower percentage of students than UNR? Let's see, is it easier to get into a school that admits 76% of its applicants, or 88% of its applicants? And according to Collegedata.com, WSU's average SAT score were higher (1770 for WSU, 1750 for UNR, based on upper range of average scores). Weird. If you want facts, go to collegedata.com Quit making up :censored:ty statistics. You're making yourself look retarded, and I look retarded arguing with a retard like you. Let's just leave it alone since he has a "talent" in BS. No, I would have a "talent" in BS if I wasn't actually good at the piano. But I am. Just looked it up, and Reno and WSU are about the same. The average GPA is higher for WSU but SAT scores are higher for Reno. I think it just comes down the the fact that one university is growing very fast, and the other is staying stagnate. If you were really talented, you wouldn't need to look at the music while you played. And two, where are you getting your statistics? I gave my source. It said WSU's SAT scores were higher. I think you're just giving us another load of BS.

If this is true, why do WSU freshman have a higher average high school GPA (3.42 compared to 3.35), and why did WSU admit a lower percentage of students than UNR? Let's see, is it easier to get into a school that admits 76% of its applicants, or 88% of its applicants? And according to Collegedata.com, WSU's average SAT score were higher (1770 for WSU, 1750 for UNR, based on upper range of average scores). Weird. If you want facts, go to collegedata.com Quit making up :censored:ty statistics. You're making yourself look retarded, and I look retarded arguing with a retard like you.

Las Vegas is still USC territory, plus UNLV will have difficulty in getting support from Stanford, Cal, and even USC academically. Like it (or aware of it) or not, USC is a school with academic chops and gets research money. Iowa State is possibly the least desired athletic program from a public university within the current BCS conferences. As a whole, only the private schools like Vandy, Duke, and Wake are at or near the same level. UNLV is actually one of the leading theatre and arts schools in the nation. Plus, the only other realistic option to have a 16th team would be UNR, and I think they would rather have the LV tv market. It's only USC territory right now because UNLV is not part of the same conference. Trust me, if UNLV joined the Pac-12, their football program would explode (in a good way). I think the Pac12/Pac16 would rather have San Diego State than UNLV. San Diego State wouldn't qualify academically for the Pac-12. Plus, they already have the California market, they honestly don't need SDSU. Sand Diego has the Chargers. Las Vegas has much more potential. If the Chargers move to LA, then SDSU becomes a lot more lucrative. Not sure how UNLV qualifies academically if SDSU doesn't. UNLV is much better academically than SDSU. The other option would be UNR, which is a much better overall university, but it's in a much smaller market. The ideal situation would be to get rid of WSU and get both. UNLV is not much better academically...take a look at any ranking, and they are about the same. WSU holds the Spokane market, which is bigger than Reno. Not by much, and overall UNR is a much better university than WSU. They are also growing faster (they're one of the fastest growing universities in the nation), and are much more athletically competitive than WSU. They already have UW for the Washington market. They really don't need WSU. Not trying to be a homer, but you really don't know what you're talking about here. WSU is ranked higher than UNR in any accredited ranking. Look it up. WSU already has more students than UNR WSU has more satellite campuses than UNR Seattle is not the Washington market. Spokane is big. Bigger than Reno. Spokane is the 75th largest TV market. Reno is 106. WSU has more alumni than UNR. WSU's alumni donations are bigger than UNR's WSU's weakness right now is its football team. That can easily change. See 2001-2005. Quit making up :censored:ty statistics.

Las Vegas is still USC territory, plus UNLV will have difficulty in getting support from Stanford, Cal, and even USC academically. Like it (or aware of it) or not, USC is a school with academic chops and gets research money. Iowa State is possibly the least desired athletic program from a public university within the current BCS conferences. As a whole, only the private schools like Vandy, Duke, and Wake are at or near the same level. UNLV is actually one of the leading theatre and arts schools in the nation. Plus, the only other realistic option to have a 16th team would be UNR, and I think they would rather have the LV tv market. It's only USC territory right now because UNLV is not part of the same conference. Trust me, if UNLV joined the Pac-12, their football program would explode (in a good way). I think the Pac12/Pac16 would rather have San Diego State than UNLV. San Diego State wouldn't qualify academically for the Pac-12. Plus, they already have the California market, they honestly don't need SDSU. Sand Diego has the Chargers. Las Vegas has much more potential. If the Chargers move to LA, then SDSU becomes a lot more lucrative. Not sure how UNLV qualifies academically if SDSU doesn't. UNLV is much better academically than SDSU. The other option would be UNR, which is a much better overall university, but it's in a much smaller market. The ideal situation would be to get rid of WSU and get both. UNLV is not much better academically...take a look at any ranking, and they are about the same. WSU holds the Spokane market, which is bigger than Reno.

Las Vegas is still USC territory, plus UNLV will have difficulty in getting support from Stanford, Cal, and even USC academically. Like it (or aware of it) or not, USC is a school with academic chops and gets research money. Iowa State is possibly the least desired athletic program from a public university within the current BCS conferences. As a whole, only the private schools like Vandy, Duke, and Wake are at or near the same level. UNLV is actually one of the leading theatre and arts schools in the nation. Plus, the only other realistic option to have a 16th team would be UNR, and I think they would rather have the LV tv market. It's only USC territory right now because UNLV is not part of the same conference. Trust me, if UNLV joined the Pac-12, their football program would explode (in a good way). One particularly good school within a university does not make a "academic fit". UNLV does have a law school, but no medical school and no fan support for football. Their "market size" is only telling if no LV cable carrier picks up a portion of the Pac-12 subregional networks. Las Vegas is still USC territory, plus UNLV will have difficulty in getting support from Stanford, Cal, and even USC academically. Like it (or aware of it) or not, USC is a school with academic chops and gets research money. Iowa State is possibly the least desired athletic program from a public university within the current BCS conferences. As a whole, only the private schools like Vandy, Duke, and Wake are at or near the same level. UNLV is actually one of the leading theatre and arts schools in the nation. Plus, the only other realistic option to have a 16th team would be UNR, and I think they would rather have the LV tv market. It's only USC territory right now because UNLV is not part of the same conference. Trust me, if UNLV joined the Pac-12, their football program would explode (in a good way). I think the Pac12/Pac16 would rather have San Diego State than UNLV. Pac-12 will not take a school which is part of the "Cal State" system. Is that in their by-laws? Who thought the SEC would take a Texas school?

Las Vegas is still USC territory, plus UNLV will have difficulty in getting support from Stanford, Cal, and even USC academically. Like it (or aware of it) or not, USC is a school with academic chops and gets research money. Iowa State is possibly the least desired athletic program from a public university within the current BCS conferences. As a whole, only the private schools like Vandy, Duke, and Wake are at or near the same level. UNLV is actually one of the leading theatre and arts schools in the nation. Plus, the only other realistic option to have a 16th team would be UNR, and I think they would rather have the LV tv market. It's only USC territory right now because UNLV is not part of the same conference. Trust me, if UNLV joined the Pac-12, their football program would explode (in a good way). I think the Pac12/Pac16 would rather have San Diego State than UNLV. San Diego State wouldn't qualify academically for the Pac-12. Plus, they already have the California market, they honestly don't need SDSU. Sand Diego has the Chargers. Las Vegas has much more potential. If the Chargers move to LA, then SDSU becomes a lot more lucrative. Not sure how UNLV qualifies academically if SDSU doesn't.

Las Vegas is still USC territory, plus UNLV will have difficulty in getting support from Stanford, Cal, and even USC academically. Like it (or aware of it) or not, USC is a school with academic chops and gets research money. Iowa State is possibly the least desired athletic program from a public university within the current BCS conferences. As a whole, only the private schools like Vandy, Duke, and Wake are at or near the same level. UNLV is actually one of the leading theatre and arts schools in the nation. Plus, the only other realistic option to have a 16th team would be UNR, and I think they would rather have the LV tv market. It's only USC territory right now because UNLV is not part of the same conference. Trust me, if UNLV joined the Pac-12, their football program would explode (in a good way). I think the Pac12/Pac16 would rather have San Diego State than UNLV.

As much as I hate to say it, Kansas State is probably either 1b or 1c on that list as well. Though they do have Kansas City close by, it's still a rural-based school.

How so?