monkeypower

I can't speak to the OHL, but I would agree the WHL has kind of hit its limit in Canada. There's just not many places left that are a) big enough, b) have an existing arena that's already good enough or means to build new/improve old and/or c) have an existing franchise and location with the capability or interest of moving up a level. There has been talk over the years about one more BC team being a possibility (Chilliwack coming back or Nanaimo moving up, usually) but there's never been anything of actual substance. I don't know if the WHL has any true ambitions of expansion though. If somebody wants to cut a check, I'm sure they'll take a look at it, but I don't think the WHL is actively searching or soliciting in either country. The relocation of Winnipeg to Wenatchee was more about the WHL being done with Winnipeg's ownership group and the BCHL Wenatchee franchise fitting the a), b) and c) criteria I set up above. I personally think it may be the case where there are already too many existing sub-major junior teams and I could see more folding than expansion in junior A upcoming. It's also getting to the point where there might not be many possible markets left for that level as well. There is also a lot of dust to be settled within the coming years in junior hockey. The BCHL left Hockey Canada (to mixed results despite what their propaganda machine has been putting out and, despite what some people on social media have latched on to, their move didn't have anything to do with the various Hockey Canada scandals over recent years) Following that, BC Hockey promoted three existing Jr. B leagues to "Jr. A" for a trial period with the goal of creating a new Jr. A league of the most successful teams The five biggest (richest) Alberta teams have just left mid-season for the BCHL, now leaving the AJ in a bit of a flux Some existing BCHL teams are discussing moving back to Hockey Canada and into one of the promoted Jr. B leagues Some, don't know how legitimate, discussion that the AJ, the Sask, and the Manitoba leagues will cull lesser teams and create a prairie spanning league of the remaining (don't know if travel costs would allow that though) There is more recent smoke that the NCAA will start allowing (or more like realize they won't be able to block it from happening if it goes to court) CHL players to play college hockey and there have been a couple insiders and forum posts saying it's seemingly becoming more "when" than "if". If that does happen, it could throttle Jr. A because those players who do want to go NCAA can now play at the higher level of junior hockey in the CHL, relegating Jr. A to even more of a lesser league There's a lot of question marks right now in Jr. A hockey about what the landscape will look like and I personally don't think trying to start a junior hockey team is a good business decision right now. I know if I had the money, I wouldn't.

Is the former home of The World of Sid and Marty Krofft not CNN anymore?

Both of the prior Atlanta relocations can be reasoned away if wanted. The Flames moved in 1980. There's little comparison to be made between the Flames situation and a potential new team nearly 50 years later. The Thrashers were bought in a package deal by an ownership group who wanted nothing to do with them and handled them like they wanted nothing to do with them. I personally don't think the Flames should be used a knock on the feasibility of the Atlanta market but I can see some questioning through the Thrashers.

Anecdotally, I was born and raised in Calgary. The only Mormons I knew growing up were my neighbours across the street. The LDS reports 200,000 Canadians with 83,572 Albertans (but the 2021 Canadian Census only reports 87,725 for all of Canada, FWTW). Cardston, where the famous temple is, isn't really known for hockey and (not that this is the be all end all because there are issues with birthplaces on the site) Elite Prospects only has 17 people listed as having Cardston birthplaces. Fun fact for you Simpsons fans, Patty and Selma visited the Remington Carriage Museum in Cardston at one point. Derek Ryan himself is an adult convert through his wife and he's from Spokane.

Canada only has about 200,000 Mormons and the Mormon hotbeds in America aren't exactly hockey hotbeds so just by the numbers, it makes there wouldn't be many professional Mormon players.

All my junior hockey knowledge is Western, but from what I have heard and gathered, Mississauga has had attendance issues for pretty much their history. Here are their attendance numbers, click on the bars to go to the OHL totals for each year, and their personal highest average was fourth lowest in the league and their highest I could see was fifth lowest. I just don't think there's much of a market for junior hockey in the GTA (probably for the same reasons the Argos have lower attendance) and from a Westerner's perspective, I don't know if there's much of a city pride atmosphere for any of the suburbs as opposed to viewing themselves as Toronto adjacent. I, unrelated, came across a relatively recent video from Kitchener's PxP person who talked about the Mississauga market and you can get some of the sentiment the OHL community has towards Mississauga.

Not in this case because the ice is going to be so far away from the stands but I have seen first hand jerseys like this and they are hard to read from even a lower bowl perspective (or the equivalent in smaller arenas where it's just one level). Also, people can definitely read NOBs from a lot of places, in person and on tv.

Why the outline inconsistency in the top of the S? It's the only part that's filled in completely.

Black on red is always a tough contrast. I could see the logos and numbers being okay because of the size but there's no way the names are going to be visible at a distance, especially football stadium hockey distance.

As a Ducks fan, it's a big no to all three of those things, especially because they have been permanently selling plenty of retro merchandize for at least the last decade. It also hasn't been 15 years either, it's a much more recent phenomenon. The real answer is that the Mighty Ducks brand and colours are so tied into an ownership group in a way that has never been seen before in sports that made it very understandable the new owners would want to separate from said previous owners. Then after the switch was made, the team immediately won the Stanley Cup and shortly there after entered the best period in team history. The Anaheim Ducks have way more success and years (18 to 13, lockout included) than the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim.

I could really do without the phantom yoke and I think the logo is too high up on the torso but as a fan, I'm a fan.

I never once said anything about promoting Orca Bay. I said the ownership based the logo after themselves, it's arguably braggadocious and self-important and is corporate synergy but none of those things have to equal promotion. It's like when the Saskatoon Blades switched to a bulldozer logo because the then-owner made his money in construction. He's not actively promoting his construction company, he just reflected himself in the logo. It would be like if I owned a team and gave them a powerful monkey logo (because of a dumb name I accidentally made on this forum when I was 12)(why do I still have this name).

You're pretty off base here. There's nothing to do with promoting the ownership group like your Starbucks example or with something like the Mighty Ducks. There's no financial/advertising conspiracy or corporate synergy here, Orca Bay wanted to change their logo and picked the creature the ownership group was named after. The orca logo is more akin to the Cleveland Browns being named the Browns or the Calgary Hitmen being named the Hitmen or the Winnipeg Jets having the compass notch in their logo pointing (true) north. The ownership wanted to reflect the ownership in the name or brand in some way.

The ownership group took on the Orca Bay name in 1995 and as you said, the orca logo is from 1997. Now, I'm normally not much for conspiracy theories but I have to believe this one.

I think some people forget or don't know the Orca was only the logo because it was the name of the then ownership group. (I am correct in saying that, right?)

I could see something like this being the case and the reasoning being a water effect or like the light on the water going from the shore to to the deep where sharks are abound.

They have leaned into the pink occasionally over the years during anniversaries and subsequent jerseys plus one outdoor game jersey. The thing with the Hitmen is that they have been in their current colours for 26 seasons and only wore pink for 3, with the last of those being in 1998. So as much of a history they have with pink, it's not a lot in the grand scheme of things.

I was right, though I was thinking they might be a recoloured Carolina black template but these are a unique template based off their original jerseys and their Bret Hart Night jerseys. The phantom yoke is a dumb as usual and I think the logo could be moved down on the torso. The photos on the online store also show the jerseys having the Bret Hart "the best there is" speech as a hanger effect.

Couple thoughts: Always nice to see them in black and pink again This is reading as phantom yoke, which I kind of thought we were past as a society Based on the explosion/blast emoji in the tweet and the mask looking to be on the shoulder (that is the shoulder right?), I'm reading the return of the "Starburst" logo on the front.

Could just be a graphic issue on the shop, but the Angels might have added the drop shadow outline to the front numbers, but not the back, and the NOB is stouter than previous. I've long been in favour of the Angels making the wordmark and number outlines/dropshadows consistent (either adding to the numbers or removing from the wordmark) on the homes and aways because I always thought it looked weird and made the numbers stick out as plain, but just doing the front number doesn't help that.

IIRC with those DALLAS jerseys, there was some level of an attempt from the Stars organization to pull from college hockey.

The Victoria Royals of the WHL unveiled these third jerseys last week. Minus the outline numbers and adjusting the shade of blue, what about something like this for the Lightning?

FWIW, Calgary Stampeders GM and head coach Dave Dickenson mentioned in an interview a couple days ago that he feels the shrinking of the UFL from 16 down to 8 has already been better for the CFL because the pool of players is bigger (a thought shared by the vast majority of CFL fans online I've seen).

The Blazers brand has always been so tied into the Oilers because they started as the Kamloops Junior Oilers in 1981 and then kept the colours through the name change after Pocklington sold them off in 1984. They went what I would call "throwback inspired" with their current primary set in 2015, which is essentially just the Oilers navy/copper/red set in navy/orange (and the same jersey template Red Deer has been wearing in black/maroon/silver since 1997), so it makes sense they would look to Edmonton for an alternate. Back to the point, Kamloops had those River City alts for last year at the very least as well.