monkeypower

I think there are only four banners (five including retired numbers) that teams should hang.

Stanley Cup Champions - self explanatory 

Conference Champions - winning the Conference finals

Presidents Trophy - also self explanatory

Division Champions - most points in the division at the end of the regular season, so no hanging a division championship because you were the last division team standing in the playoffs

30 minutes ago, Wings said:

 

 

I thought it was pronounced sa-skach-uh-won

sa-skatch-win

The Oil Kings unveiled a new shoulder patch back in August. I don't hate it, but I can't help but feel there's something "off" about it. Maybe it's because of the size and shape.

Side note, the Oil Kings have created an identity issue for themselves with the black and green alternates. It's like they can't decide, especially now with a white version of the black/green jerseys, which team they are and they don't want to entirely commit to the black/green. Living in Edmonton for school, all the ads I've seen have been black and green and their internet presence is mostly black and green, but the red and blue still makes a lot of appearances. 

16 hours ago, the admiral said:

With the national spotlight being cast on Smashville more than ever before, fans attending those games at Bridgestone Arena will once more help to create the atmosphere that has now become famous around the hockey world as the best in the NHL. [citation needed]

Here's Calgary's flag. It's hard to tell here on the white background of the of the site, but there's a strip of white above and below the red.

It looks like it could have been a logo for the Calgary Cowboys WHA team.

1 hour ago, Sodboy13 said:

Yeah, Edwards wanted a free billion dollars from the city for all of his sports toys, and when the mayor had the sense to tell him to go screw, he brought in the NHL to try to influence the mayoral election. Murray was stacking Ls all season long on and off the ice.

 

If Murray Edwards thinks he can do better with one team in Houston than he can with four teams in Calgary, I advise him to go ahead and try his luck.

I think Edwards would sell the team in the case of them moving to Houston and who knows what would happen with the other teams. Though all four have dedicated fanbases here in Calgary, though will major overlap.

1 hour ago, the admiral said:

 

Why? If the Saddledome is an impediment to touring acts and isn't ideal for the Flames either, then that's the priority over a minor-league football stadium that only gets used a few times a year. I'm sure it's fine enough for what it has to be. That billion-dollar omniplex the Flames wanted was a stupid idea. Pay for your own normal arena and leave it at that.

Okay before was the wrong word and obviously the Saddledome is priority, but it terms of amenities and fan gameday experience, McMahon Stadium is in worse shape than the Saddledome, especially compared to the new ones in the league. And calling it minor league is kind of flippant.

But yes, an arena is needed and people here are in favour of a new arena, just not of what’s been proposed. By and large, I think most in Calgary are on the City’s side and not the ownership’s.

Another distant Houston candidate the could be Flames with their whole arena situation.

There was this article from Eric Francis (someone who has been obviously pro-ownership throughout the arena discussions and many Flames fans have probably rightly called him a shill/don't like him) back in December where he feels the Flames will be in Houston within the next three years and I have heard from a guy who heard from a guy who apparently knows people in the ownership (take that as you will) that there's more to the Flames and Houston thing than the public knows (also take that as you will).

That Francis article is not good and he's clearly on the side of the ownership, but there might be some inkling of truth to this.

Another wrinkle is that the Flames ownership group, CSEC, also own the CFL's Stampeders, the NLL's Roughnecks and the WHL's Hitmen, the latter two share the Saddledome with the Flames and if you recall the CalgaryNEXT proposal that started this whole Flames arena saga, the plan also included a new stadium for the Stamps along with the arena for the Flames, Roughnecks and Hitmen. The Roughnecks and Hitmen are directly affected by this whole arena discussion with the Stampeders also along for the ride (and personally, I feel the Stamps need to get a new stadium before the Flames do), so a forgotten issue is how the ownership's and the NHL's posturing with the City of Calgary will impact the other three teams.

3 hours ago, philcar1994 said:

Kootenay Ice 20th Anniversary logo

 

Ehh. The stars look like they were placed from a different logo and the 20 has a weird sideways drop shadow.

I'm assuming the one big star is for their Memorial Cup championship and the three smaller for their WHL championships.

As per the 17-18 thread, for some reason the ICE (which I believe the team decided is supposed to be capitalized like REDBLACKS) decided not to throwback to their own history for their 20th anniversary, but instead to the Cranbook Junior A team they forced to fold when the Ice moved there from Edmonton.

16 hours ago, shstpt1 said:

My problem with brandiose lately is that there’s too many alternate logos, way too many hats, and absurd colors. Several teams that they’ve redone the last few years have featured a jersey in that green color. 

I think that's my problem with MiLB identities (and some MLB). Is it necessary to have what sometimes seems like a home hat, an away hat, a home alternate hat, an away alternate hat and a Sunday alternate hat, each with their own different logo? There should really only be a home/away hat and an alternate.

And all four of Gwinnett's hats are the same colour, so it's especially unnecessary. If you're going to have so many hats, at least change up the colour on some of them.

^ Oh yes, the Quad City Flames.

One of the members of the Flames AHL wasteland.

Augusta GreenJackets new logo. I think the plaid hat is a nice touch, but I will miss the actual Masters green jacket from the old logo.

1 hour ago, DG_Now said:

Eh....doesn't seem like we really lost anything. I've never listened to Pardon My Take, but I have seen my fair share of people who seem to intentionally not take things seriously and/or wear sunglasses on TV for no good reason.

The glasses are part of the PFT Commentor anonymous shtick. He always wears them.

So on this morning’s PMT they sort of explained what happened with the ESPN show. PFT said ESPN came to Barstool eight months ago wanting a PMT show and the name was “Pardon My Take” based until a couple weeks ago. PFT didn’t like the name change but Big Cat understood why Barstool changed it.

The two were angry with ESPN for mismanaging it and the people from ESPN who got the show cancelled but they were also angry at Barstool for putting them in the scenario. The two threw Barstool/Portnoy under the bus a bit but Big Cat is more of a “company man” than PFT. It remains to be seen how this effects the PMT and Barstool relationship because PFT (and Big Cat in a roundabout way) said PMT shouldn’t be lumped into the other things Barstool has done.

They also said the first episode almost didn’t air because of why it was eventually cancelled. The show was also supposed to be 20 episodes.

I just don't really know what ESPN expected with Barstool in the title.

To add to Sodboy's point, the actual vehicle (Vanny Woodhead) the PMT vehicle was filmed in is PMT's. I'm sure they wrote if off as a Barstool business expense or something but the show was all Pardon My Take. IIRC, outside of PMT (Big Cat, PFT and their producer Hank), there was little to no Barstool in the actual production of the show. It was all Embassy Row and ESPN.

44 minutes ago, DG_Now said:

Did the show ever actually air?

Their first (and only) episode with Scott Van Pelt as the guest.

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I will admit, I am a Pardon My Take fan and I listen to all the podcasts. It's a fun, smart show and has clout in the sports/sports media world but they're only going to get so far in the "mainstream media" with the Barstool name attached, even though it's not really the "Barstool brand" people think of when they hear Barstool. A lot of people at ESPN like PMT and I don't think the cancellation will have an effect on the podcast but I feel for the PMT guys.

The way the statement reads it seems it was less about PMT and the first episode, it's more about Barstool (read: Portnoy, Dave). Calling the show Barstool Van Talk didn't help ESPN either, it should have just been something related to Pardon My Take but I don't know if that would have flown with Barstool.

This is/was Calgary's proposal to the Flames.

And here's Nenshi's response,

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There has been a lot of discussion about the proposed arena over the last couple of days and I wanted to take the time to clarify a few things. The City has been negotiating in good faith with the Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corporation (CSEC), the owners of the Flames, for months with respect to a new arena in Victoria Park. Our goal has always been to reach an agreement that would be a win for taxpayers and a win for CSEC.

Back when CSEC introduced CalgaryNEXT, I proposed a number of principles (which were unanimously adopted by Council) to guide our work with respect to any new arena. The most important tenet was that public money must be used for public benefit, particularly with many Calgarians still struggling during this fragile economic recovery. Furthermore, I have always maintained that there must be public engagement on any proposed agreement prior to Council making a decision.

I keep hearing people say that ‘the Mayor doesn’t want an arena’. This is simply not true. I recently released my vision for a cultural and entertainment district in the River’s District, in the eastern part of downtown, and a new arena is a vital part of that plan. We know, however, that it takes more than just an arena to make a vibrant community (after all, the Saddledome has been there for 34 years without spurring much additional real estate development) and I have outlined a solid plan to make a cultural and entertainment district a reality.

There is no doubt that the Flames are a crucial part of our city’s cultural fabric and a new arena will have a positive impact on our city. Everyone understands this. That is why the City has devoted considerable time and money to advancing discussions with CSEC on this project.

That is also why I am surprised that CSEC has walked away from the table. It’s true that negotiations have been long and difficult, but that is to be expected given the amount of public money at stake. The City has a fair and reasonable proposal on the table and we were expecting negotiations to continue after our August break.

It is disappointing that the ownership group has unilaterally determined that there is no deal here. CSEC was told as recently as Monday that the City is still at the table and willing to negotiate. The City has not and will not ever leave the table as long as I am Mayor. We will continue to search for a win-win deal: a win for citizens and taxpayers and a win for the Flames’ owners.

Yesterday, Council authorized me to share details of the proposal that the City has on the table now. You will hear more about the details of the proposal later this week. I think the City’s proposal is eminently reasonable and a good mix of public money and public benefit--where taxpayers and the owners share in the risk and in the upside. I hope you look on this proposal with a fresh perspective and the knowledge that I am fighting for you, even if it becomes difficult. Nothing of value, like building a great city, comes easy, and we must be wary of those who pretend that it is.

The City is ready to talk and ready to engage with CSEC. We have before us a path to a win-win for our community, but it requires partnership and goodwill.

I thank you for your support and I look forward to sharing the details of the city’s proposal shortly.

Naheed

1 hour ago, the admiral said:

Who cares about McMahon Stadium?

Plenty of people.

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The CFL isn't worth building a billion-dollar stadium.

Probably not, especially not the CalgaryNEXT proposal. Cost being only one of the multiple reasons that proposal wasn't good.

The last three new CFL stadiums to be built cost $278 million (Regina), $145.7 million (Hamilton) and $210 million (Winnipeg).

But it will be interesting to see if and when the Flames go back to the city to see if they still include the Stamps in a proposal because the hockey arena will include three out of the four CSEC teams.

No the Saddledome isn't falling apart but it is showing its age and lacks a lot of the ameneties of all these newer arenas, same with McMahon (so much concrete), so admiral is right in saying Calgary is due for a new arena/complex. But what the Flames want from the city isn't going to work.

The admiral's also right about the concerts. Calgary gets skipped over for Edmonton all the time because of the Saddledome and its limitations. And if acts do come, it's often stripped down a bit and the acoustic aren't the greatest. (Keep in mind, I've never been to a concert at the Dome. This is just the common knowledge in Calgary).

I will say I never found the Saddledome's bowls wonky though.

I don't think Saskatoon could work either. I don't think it's big enough and the two professional teams already in the province get supported by the whole province.

Everybody in Canada knows about Rider Nation for the CFL's Roughriders and the two year old NLL Rush have become a smash hit, but both leagues play a weekly (football) schedule with the Roughriders playing nine home games a season out of Regina and the Rush playing their nine out of Saskatoon.

Both teams draw from out of their respective cities with season ticket holders across the province. Since the homes games are only once a week at most, people are willing to make the drive to "home" games.

I don't know if Saskatoon itself would be able to fill 41 home games a year, much less games played on different days of the week.

The current arena would also need renovations to make it up to NHL standards. Saskatoon has been approaching the idea of discussions on a new arena, but I don't know if NHL is on their minds.

The Swift Current Indians of the WMBL (summer collegiate league in Alberta and Saskatchewan) are now the Swift Current 57's. The name comes from the 57 years they were known as the Indians.

The change was made to drop Indians in order to "promote the team in a more current and sensitive manner."

12 minutes ago, jstogasterisk said:

It's a ladder with a small bench seat attached for children to sit on during Mardi Gras parades. The wheels are for mobility. Hope it helps!

Huh I didn't know that was a thing. That's kind of a cool touch then.

I did see the ladder part but was thrown off by the wheels on the top of the thing but it appears to be for rolling it like a wheelbarrow.

The top right logo holding the three bats, what is he holding in his other arm?

9 hours ago, wildwing64 said:

Thread titles are all appearing like this on my phone screen. Anyone else getting this?

 

 

Is that not how you read in England, directly downwards? Like how Japan reads from right to left.

In my stories, I usually clean up the quotes and I actively make an effort to not change what the person was trying to say. 

Mostly it's just taking out the filler words and fixing some grammar. (e.g. has to have and writing the word they meant to say if they flub it)

The biggest change I'll ever make is when a person has a long quote with lots of "ands". I'll replace an "and" with a period and a new sentence if it's a changing thought and still makes sense.