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  1. On 3/15/2018 at 2:33 PM, Sodboy13 said:

    I'd imagine the SPHL has their eyes on Moline, since Peoria is apparently staying there.

     

    One assumes Peoria doesn't have enough money to do anything else.  Or is content with a status quo of dominating the regular season before immediately crashing out in the postseason.  The Fort Wayne Komets model, only dumber.

  2. On 9/16/2017 at 12:02 AM, Viola73 said:

    You mean an ESPN that no one is watching. So much so, that ESPN President John Skipper sent out a company wide memo to his employees basically stating that ESPN is well...ESPN and not MSNBC....YEEEEAAAAHHHH Right!

    http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/john-skipper-sends-internal-memo-stating-espn-not-political-organization.html

     

    And I'm sure you've cancelled the sports package in your tv arrangement, because otherwise they are still getting your money.

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  3. 13 hours ago, BeerGuyJordan said:

    That's not how it went down. I'm not claiming Houston is some untapped Hockey hotbed, but they had a solid AHL market going. Their final 8 seasons were all top 10, performance-wise, and their attendance was in an upward trajectory, until the announcement of the team leaving (their second to last season, they had the 5th best attendance, in the AHL). During their final 5 seasons they outperformed markets like Milwaukee, Providence, Rochester, Grand Rapids and Hamilton, at least twice.

     

    That is even more impressive when you consider that they had more weeknight games than most teams. Les Alexander was known for blocking the Aeros out of the best non-Rockets dates, and asked for a ridiculous increase in their lease fees.

     

    This article outlines some of the history, regarding Houston hockey.

     

    http://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-houston-aeros-are-no-more-rip-6714750

     

    You didn't address the "they made more money from concerts" issue.

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  4. 53 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said:

     

    Doesn't make sense. They wanted a baseball school and as far as I know IUPUI doesn't have baseball. They wanted a school with some basketball pedigree and IUPUI doesn't really have that.

     

    They have gotten the second largest campus of the IU system, in the major metropolitan area that the league is headquartered in, and while it doesn't have pedigree, it does have enough resources to, say, cover up any holes in their athletic offerings.

     

    Besides, worrying about college baseball in the Great Lakes region is kind of stupid anyway.

  5. 7 minutes ago, buzzcut said:

    According to this report in the Detroit News, the Horizon League is adding a new school for this season. The report does not specify who it us, but I believe rhymes with Brand Wanyon.

     

    Horizon League has schools in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Kentucky, and Illinois.  I don't care how big a travel subsidy check Grand Canyon would promise to write, adding them (without, say, any travel partner at least) would be :censored: ing INSANE.

     

    Also Grand Canyon has that "for profit" thing working against them.

  6. 44 minutes ago, Seadragon76 said:

    In the case of Hawaii, it's all about distance. Being in the Big West greatly reduces the distance traveled by them during the conference season. Being in the WAC, especially in it's current form, would be bad for the travel budget.

     

    Cal State Bakersfield might jump at the chance at a joint bid with UC San Diego, but I think they're pretty happy in the WAC. Both leagues are one bid leagues, so there's no real reason to jump ship, especially with the WAC at only 8 members and in danger of being one big move away from total destruction.

     

    That's why half the league membership WANTS to leave.

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  7. 12 minutes ago, the admiral said:

    What if instead of going with someone else's parent-owned team, they owned their own team, one that was near St. Louis but not too close as to cannibalize the market, like St. Charles might, and was just far enough north as to facilitate affordable travel to Milwaukee, Rosemont, Rockford, and Des Moines? That's probably the direction I'd look into taking.

     

    Some fence-mending might be necessary, since SMG still runs the Peoria Civic Center.

  8. On 3/8/2017 at 1:02 PM, Sodboy13 said:

    I'm glad admiral block-quoted, because I wasn't going to HFBoards and was just assuming the answer was "The Blues."

     

    Also, good on you, local knob-polishing journalist. Your dereliction of duty saved the Portland Pirates!

     

    ...oh.

     

    Nah, the Peoria Journal Star's hack of a beat writer would have run with the Rivermen missing payroll immediately since he knows no discretion.

  9. 14 hours ago, BeerGuyJordan said:

    Can't say I'm surprised, especially with the loss of the Cali teams. The travel line of their budget has got to be huge. I'll be sad to see them go, if true. Proba ly the third best executed identity in the ECHL, behind Toledo and Orlando.

     

    The Aces historically subsidized travel to Anchorage as well-they got around it some by having teams play 3 game "series" and vice versa.  But yeah, with the loss of Victoria and then the California teams, Boise's the closest market now and it quickly (Salt Lake City, Loveland, CO, Rapid City) gets worse from there.  Probably not sustainable any more.

  10. Just now, dfwabel said:

    It gotta go back to 2008 when SLU left, opened Chaifetz Arena and took those 18-22 home games with them. Reports were the Blues received 5% of ticket revenue plus whatever received from concessions.

     

     

     

    That can't be it.  The team's been on the brink of financial catastrophe for far longer than that-this goes back to the Checkerdome days.

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  11. 3 hours ago, Marcos Flamengo said:

     

    Theorically the Komets would be an affiliate of the Blues and the Wolves, but there is some major problems going on though. Because there's a portion of the roster who wants the team independently, without NHL/AHL affiliation, but there's also someother players in the team who has contracts with the Wolves and defends an affiliation with the Blues. The anti-players union sentiments may be bigger than we think for the people of Fort Wayne, we don't know what's going to happen up next for the Komets. The Golden Knights hasn't so far an AHL/ECHL affiliate. The AHL affiliate, in my humble opinion, would be Reno, because it would be closer from Vegas. And we don't know which city will become a home for a Golden Knights' ECHL affiliate, probably also we don't know that it would be in the West or in the East.

     

    MOD EDIT

     

    That said, the Blues want out of Chicago because the Wolves historically murder an NHL team's player development efforts by focusing on winning with their own players rather than giving the parent team's players playing time.  Las Vegas is probably going to end up with the Wolves because 1) They don't really have a fully stocked farm roster because DUH.  2) they are the lowest, lowest man on the totem pole.

     

    The Blues are going to push for some sort of local option (Illinois or Missouri area), with the caveat that the Blues ownership group probably doesn't have a lot of money lying around, which is why they dumped the Peoria AHL franchise off to Vancouver (to be moved  to West Coast location TBA/Utica as a halfway house) and then affiliated with the independently owned and operated Wolves despite the known damage it will do to player development because a few bread crumbs are better than nothing.

     

    With regards to the Komets, you got confused.  The owners are anti-union (something about owing a couple years' worth of back dues to the Professional Hockey Players Association), so they jumped from league to league until the last remaining non-union league began to burn down around them, leaving them no choice but to move to the ECHL.  Historically the Komets have pursued a me-first policy, and to be honest its less of a problem at the ECHL because most NHL teams don't have that deep of a farm system.  The ECHL aspires to be like the  AHL from a player-development perspective but its not quite there yet.  The Blues,  probably due to the aforementioned financial problems and hollowing out of their farm system, don't even have an ECHL affiliate right now and haven't given any real signs of wanting to address that.

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