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The company that operates Broward County?s hockey arena in Sunrise and owns the Florida Panthers who play there wants a $7.7 million loan from the county to renovate the facility.
In a letter from the company that owns the Florida Panthers, Sunrise Sports and Entertainment, President Michael Yormark told the county mayor and commissioners that he?d seek the loan to pay for improvements to the center ice seating section and the executive suites.
"We need tax money to upgrade our luxury suites. I asked for white tigers!" Galling.
Yet, just up the road in Tampa, the Lightning owner spent $35 mil of HIS OWN MONEY to renovate the Forum. I've seen it in person, looks brand new.
Unless I didn't notice it last year, I really liked that area where the organist sits and the light display over the 'organ pipes'. And those contraptions that shoot lightning bolts is kick-ass, too.
Nope...the pipe organ area, all arena seats, upper level rooftop deck, the concourse redecorating, all suites (and the removal of a few suites in each corner ) are all new for 2011.
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The company that operates Broward County?s hockey arena in Sunrise and owns the Florida Panthers who play there wants a $7.7 million loan from the county to renovate the facility.
In a letter from the company that owns the Florida Panthers, Sunrise Sports and Entertainment, President Michael Yormark told the county mayor and commissioners that he?d seek the loan to pay for improvements to the center ice seating section and the executive suites.
"We need tax money to upgrade our luxury suites. I asked for white tigers!" Galling.
Yet, just up the road in Tampa, the Lightning owner spent $35 mil of HIS OWN MONEY to renovate the Forum. I've seen it in person, looks brand new.
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Make no mistake: if Texas or OU leaves the Big XII, KU (along with K-State, ISU and Baylor) are going to be left out in the cold.
There were rumors way back when that the Big East would scoop up the Big 12 leftovers. Oh, and don't forget TCU.
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There's talk that Boise State could be a tough sell for the Big East, but yet I have also heard Boise is already shopping options for the non-football sports.
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You can't force rivalry. Look at USF-UCF for a perfect example. The Knight fans vehemently hate the Bulls, yet the Bull fans could care less after beating them 4 straight years (3 of them in steamrolling defeats).
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A local Tampa sports radio station had a writer from the Washington Examiner on this morning and here is the summary with a link to the interview:
http://www.620wdae.com/pages/usf.html?article=9319523
Essentially:
- Big East to invite UCF, Houston, and SMU for all sports with Boise, Air Force, and Navy for football only.
- Air Force and Navy will try to lobby Army to join as #12
- Should Army decline, backups are Temple, Memphis, and ECU
- He also said USF is a slight possibility for the Big 12 if they decide to go to 12 schools.
I'm surprised ECU is so low on the wish list. They actually fit geographically and the last 5 years have had a strong bowl presence.
Did I interpret this as Memphis being a backup for football only? That would be nuts.
Not necessarily. Nothing's been said about the status of the backup's invites. For all we know, a backup could be invited across the board.
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A local Tampa sports radio station had a writer from the Washington Examiner on this morning and here is the summary with a link to the interview:
http://www.620wdae.com/pages/usf.html?article=9319523
Essentially:
- Big East to invite UCF, Houston, and SMU for all sports with Boise, Air Force, and Navy for football only.
- Air Force and Navy will try to lobby Army to join as #12
- Should Army decline, backups are Temple, Memphis, and ECU
- He also said USF is a slight possibility for the Big 12 if they decide to go to 12 schools.
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Morgantown is not 2 hours from PIT, but more like 45-60 minutes.
Especially from the Airport. From KPIT to the WVU campus is maybe 45mins tops.
Which is what I thought. Morgantown is no different than any of the cites I named earlier.
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Technically it is in the sense of Big 12 Country. But what I fail to understand is that how much more isolated (in the sense of middle of nowhere) is Morgantown compared to College Station (TX), Lawrence and Manhattan (KS), and even his own Stillwater, OK?
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Big East = Big Cluster F***
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Kinda on topic, but read this story about a 16-team playoff for college football that Mountain West commish Crag Thompson has thought up. Not a bad plan if you ask me, and it estimates to TRIPLE current BCS revenues.
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One problem that isn't regularly published is that the city of St Pete will not allow the Rays to even sniff a new venue of any kind outside of city limits. This means that even if the city of Tampa (proper) or any other option has a plan, they really can't go public without roughing the seas.
I have heard of a few possibilities on the Tampa side of the bay, but most are skittish to interfere before the Rays get permission.
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As a USF fan, I am beginning to be concerned with our position in this realignment. No shot at SEC (UF), ACC (Miami & FSU), or B10 (not prestigious enough). The Big 12 would be our best case scenario. Geographically it's odd, but we are the only Florida team, in a recruiting hotbed, that's available.
I'm surely hoping the silence of USF in rumors/reports tells me something is up. Otherwise it's CUSA
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So I haven't read through all of this thread...but are the Rays seriously contemplating moving...or is this just a thread speculating on why they should move because of attendance woes?
Probably in response to the owners comments following Game 4:
I've also talkedwith people who think Mr Sternberg's comments lately have been used as fodder to work towards getting out of the lease with the city of St Pete
For the record, I don't totally blame the attendance on the last game on Rays' fans.
You can't expect people to sell out a game at 2pm on a weekday. People (the lucky ones) have jobs. When the economy has taken the
that it has, jobs come first.Scheduling can be blamed on attendance in this particular case.
This is true, I know many people that bought tix to Game 4 last Friday (time was unknown then), then had to either sell them or eat the cost over the weekend because it became a 2pm start. Curse having four games on one day
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I'm just curious to what their attendance was for the last 10 or so games of the year and the 2 playoff games. This season should have seen a huge spike, especially at the end, considering they beat out the team that 'stole' their superstar in Carl Crawford, the Red Sox.
They didn't draw worth
.Something like 18-20 for the series... they MIGHT have sold out the last night (although I have my doubts), but not any night prior.
One of the TBS announcers said at the Rays first home playoff game that it was the first sellout since opening day. I still think the issue is the location of the ballpark. Of course getting a new one built will be quite a struggle I'm sure.
Yes, the only sellouts the Rays officially had were Opening Day and Game 3 of the ALDS. The final 2 games of the reg season and Game 4 of the ALDS came close, but were a thousand or so short of sold out.
What some of you may not realize is that in most places, the season ticket base is roughly a 65-35 split of corporate-fans. In Tampa Bay, I have heard it is the opposite, with 35% coming from corporate money and 65% from fans. This is assumed due to the venue being in St Pete, with the majority of companies being based on the other side of the bay.
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OK, to be fair.....to those of you who say relocate, name me some REALISTIC places that could get them. Don't just name places you WANT them to go.
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There is really an interesting dynamic at play here. I think all these conferences are getting their ducks in a row, in the case that there is some sort of landslide realignment coming. But it seems like no conference wants to be the first one to really cause the seismic shift. I mean, think about it... The Big 10 brought in Nebraska, while Rutgers and Mizzou were dying to get in to the Big 10 as well. The SEC is bringing in Texas A&M when Clemson and West Virginia would love to join. The Pac 12 just brought in second or third tier schools with Colorado and Houston... when more recently, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech where interested in joining the Pac 12.
When did the Pac12 bring in Houston?
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Big East could take a look at Umass.
They came this close to joining the Big East back in the late 90's-early 2000's. Had their basketball program not had violations I think they would have.
They've been a pretty good 1AA football school, basketball team has been fair to good the last few seasons, (they were in the NIT championship game back in '08) its a very large school, may not be a bad choice.
Is UMass still moving to the MAC for 2012?
Should be, as far as I know.
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More Big East ineptitude: Conference not targeting schools in states that already have a Big East representative. Rules out Temple, UCF, Army, and Houston (if TCU stays).
Army? With Cuse leaving, this shouldn't matter.
St. John's anyone?
Fair enough, but if they're talking football, Army should be a possibility if interested.
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More Big East ineptitude: Conference not targeting schools in states that already have a Big East representative. Rules out Temple, UCF, Army, and Houston (if TCU stays).
Army? With Cuse leaving, this shouldn't matter.
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Reports say Dan Beebe is out as Big 12 commish:
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I can pretty much say that I don't think the Big East will poach the FCS. If they want to keep their AQ and competitive level, they need to grab the best available FCS teams (in which most have been said here).
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Big East football leadership minus Cuse and Pitt met in NYC tonight.
KySportsRadio Matt JonesBig East Commish says remaining teams have pledged to stay in league: UL, Cincy, USF, West Va, TCU, Rutgers and UCONN. Adding 2 replacements
11 minutes ago
Navy and Army?
Can't say I wouldn't argue with that. Wouldn't mind giving the Irish an ultimatum though.
Oh, and in case my quote from another forum wont suffice you, here's the ESPN story:
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Big East football leadership minus Cuse and Pitt met in NYC tonight.
KySportsRadio Matt JonesBig East Commish says remaining teams have pledged to stay in league: UL, Cincy, USF, West Va, TCU, Rutgers and UCONN. Adding 2 replacements
11 minutes ago
that it has, jobs come first.
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To the above post talking about the WAC....
Isn't Hawaii Mountain West bound for football only soon?