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That they made it work with the black pants too (white socks!) is the cherry on top. Also they figured out mid-season that this look is just plain awesome:

Good decision. The Bengals have a great white jersey look. No need to add a fourth jersey. Ideally, I would go: Home: black jersey, white pants w/orange stripes, orange socks Road (outdoors): white jersey, black pants, white socks Road (indoors): white jersey, white pants w/black stripes, black socks Cleveland matchup: white helmet, white jersey, white pants w/black stripes, white socks Halloween: orange jersey, black pants, orange socks

Also there are too many states these days. Please eliminate three (starting with Missouri).

What's vibe among Jet fans for the 80's green/white uniforms compared to the 90's green/black uniforms?

Sort of. We saw a lot of Grey For Grey's Sake and a lot Navy For Navy's Sake as well for a while. The latter being more pernicious since that usually involved the wholesale changing of a clubs color scheme. That's been dialed back in recent years with the Chargers and Rams ditching (mostly) navy for brighter shades.

Yes I know, I paired it down for simplicity. Also I just really like the 2005 away grey pants with the blue jerseys over the 2000-2004 pants.

I think we might be headed in that direction eventually.

What's your preferred Giants road set? A. B. C.

So, I disagree on two fronts. 1: I prefer the grey road pants which does have a single blue stripe. 2: For me, the relative absence of blue on the road uniform and red on the home uniform is a positive. I don't think every team can pull off two distinct color palettes for home and away but, imo, the Giants were one that succeeded. For me, having the contrast made the Giants stand out from the rest of the league especially since they could do it by only changing the jersey and socks.

This is just me, but I never found the Manning-era uniform bland in the slightest. They were consistently in my top tier of the NFL. I'm a sucker for when teams pull off two contrasting aesthetics for home and away, and I've always felt the Giants since 2005 pulled that off magnificently despite using the same helmet and pants for both sets. At the time, it was also unique in being the only team to employ flat grey pants and use them as a neutral color outside and apart from their color scheme. (The inclusion of grey in the striping on the current white home pants bothers me for this exact reason since it breaks the idea that grey is just a neutral color and not part of the official color scheme.)

Surprised at the love for the 80's and 90's Giants uniforms given what a huge deal the original 2000 rebrand was. The 60's style NY remains the superior logo imho.

I kinda want the 2015-2019 color rush for the Browns to come back. I liked the three orange stripes with the orange numbers. It worked well with the brown pants with two stripes. It would allow the Browns to drop the stripeless brown pants while keeping the mono-brown look in their repertoire.

Throwback socks had different stripe proportion.

A little amazed at the push back against non-throwback alternate helmets in the NFL. Especially since for the first 30 years of the NFL, wearing different helmets was often the norm, not the exception. To me, it a lot comes down to how a team choses to deploy uniform combinations week to week rather than the number of possible outcomes. Let's compare the two Ohio teams, the Bengals and Browns. (for illustrative purposes, I am counting the Browns throwbacks as distinct) Both teams wore three jerseys, three sets of pants, and three socks in 2021. But the Bengals wore 10 distinct combination and the Browns wore 5. If the Saints opt to only wear their black helmets with the color rush fauxbacks, they will not change the number of uniform combinations compared with last season. If they mix and match with their other uniforms, that's going to change things dramatically. The Rams are only supposed to have four uniforms at this point bone/bone, blue/blue, blue/yellow, white/yellow. However, the team has made the decision to mix the jerseys and pants in unintended ways.

It'll get sorted eventually. It's really not a big deal if your guy was wrong about the Bengals. They were already wrong about the Saints. Things change, this isn't rocket science. As I've said, twice, I really don't like arguing about this because people take it personally. I'm not sure why I even waded into this one (momentary lack of judgment, I guess).

This is why I don't like discussing leaks. Unless its a photo from the stock room of a sports store, it's impossible to pin down and we go back and forth about who's right or wrong rather than looking at the qualities of what does come out.

I don't know what else to tell you. That's a clear image of a white helmet (Riddell Speedflex) with black stripes above that tiger.

@willforgetmylogin Dude, the Bengals own social media team is using pictures or mockups of a white helmet with black stripes on the verified Twitter account of the team. Either that's the style they're using or they've left the marketing department in the dark.

Someone should tell the Bengals social media team then:

Someone already pointed out the inaccuracy of the Cincy leak. So apologies for double tapping that one. Furthermore, the hemming and hawing over which leaks are accurate or not accurate or who really has "a guy" is played out on these boards. This isn't a contest and all of this comes out eventually, it's not like a secret menu at a restaurant. Nobody dorky enough to be on these boards should care about clout or who has better or worse information.

You said Cincinnati was going with black with white stripes. Not white with black stripes.

I'm sure it was viewed as a good opportunity. A lot of teams do that when a new manufacturer or template comes in (e.g. Reebok Edge in the NHL) even though they can easily carry over their existing design. What I find dubious is the idea that the Nike template necessitated the changeover. (Perhaps I'm misreading the opinion? I've done that before.) The Cavs could have easily carried over their 2011-2016 design over to the Nike template but chose not to. There's nothing in the current template that would have prevented them from using that exact design, which leads me to suspect they made the change because of independent reasons.

No I disagree on this one. The pre-Nike Cavs design isn't that different from the Celtics and Nets which are pretty similar in their use of striping and minimalist aesthetic. I don't see anything in the current Nike template that inhibited that design. My suspicion is that the Cavs had long been planning a redesign based on the theory that their 2011-2016 set was viewed as the post-Decision hangover uniforms and were looking for a do-over after a few failed title runs once Lebron came back. Of course, the team didn't count on winning a title in the year immediately before the change was scheduled to happen.

If you look carefully at the high res photos of the actual uniforms the sublimated piping doesn't have quite the same proportions. The 2010's design had stripes that were 1-1-1-1-1 and this looks more like 1-1-3-1-1, sort of Northwestern-stripe-y. https://www.nba.com/cavaliers/jerseys Shorts seem tailored a little shorter than typical. I wonder if there's a template change coming down the road for the NBA and this is the Cavs getting ahead of it.