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MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
Also it really depends on what you consider to be "traditionalist." In my opinion: this... is actually more traditional (more in line with the unwritten rules of baseball design), that this... -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
Nike or the clubs themselves? Remember teams have the final say in that discussion. We saw this happen in the 70's and 80's too with teams like the Padres, Braves, Cubs, Rangers, Mets, Indians, Giants, Pirates, A's, White Sox all eschewing traditional road greys at some point. Not including the powder blue revolution. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
Follow up on this. I had forgotten that the New York Knicks had introduced a black accented version of their orange and blue uniform at least as early as 1996 to significant fanfare. Within the New York market, there was already an example of a royal and orange team successfully incorporating black into their pre-existing identity. -
MLB Phantom Franchise: New York Reds
Carolingian Steamroller replied to Victormrey's topic in Concepts
The black pins on the road with red undersleeves. Everything I know about baseball aesthetics screams at me that it shouldn't but.... -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
I have a cousin who grew up in Phoenix (her father is a Chicago transplant) but spent many summer here and considered herself more a Chicagoan to the point where she eventually moved here becoming indistinguishable from any other Lincoln Square lifer. We in Old Northwest send a lot of people to Arizona because our winters are good and truly miserable but we tend to get people back over time because our summers cannot be beaten. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
Depends on the definition of poor decision. From the Mets organizational perspective, the 14 years of black uniforms was a likely a success. I recall them being reasonably popular in the early going. Certainly popular enough that the throwbacks have been a success. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
Also the black Mets identity went through multiple phases. Originally, they were supposed to continue wearing blue caps and pins stripes at home but that shifted over the years to them wearing the black crowned, blue billed road cap. Then the snow whites with blue headspoons took over as the home uniform. In later years, the team shifted back towards the pinstripes and blue caps before finally ditching black in favor of cream pinstripes and plan snow whites at home before dropping the cream uniforms for straight white pinstripes. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
There's been some really interesting reporting on Mets introduction of black in the late 90's. Reportedly, the design came up with idea of New York as a "city of shadows," something I've found to be true. Even the pinstripes were supported to have black accents. http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?sportCat=mlb&page=lukas/110512_new_york_mets_black_uniforms But more to the second point, there's been a lot more fluctuation in the Mets identity that people probably realize. What they had when they broke into baseball, right before they added black, and what they've worn since ditching black has been the same but in between they had henley jereys, the racing stripes, an odd tailed "Mets" script. It's generally been pinstripes and "Mets" but a lot around that has shifted. -
MLB Phantom Franchise: New York Reds
Carolingian Steamroller replied to Victormrey's topic in Concepts
Shocked how well the Reds/Mets aesthetics blend together. -
2021-2022 NHL Jersey Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to squamfan's topic in Sports Logo News
Could you clarify a little? I see that the hem stripe, breezers, and socks are all similar but the sleeves are so different that the two sets don't appear similar to my eyes. The sleeves on the current uniforms look nearly identical to the 1934-1967 design to me. -
2021-2022 NHL Jersey Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to squamfan's topic in Sports Logo News
Kind of amazing that they wore this color scheme for a decade and a half. -
2021-2022 NHL Jersey Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to squamfan's topic in Sports Logo News
To be honest, I kinda liked these. -
Ace high in Poker. We're splitting hairs here but given how strongly Washington was against the whole concept of kings, its just "dog walking on hind legs" odd to see his face next an abbreviation for king.
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Of course. It's just weird.
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On the rare occasion I actually see cash (who has since 2020), Mr. Washington isn't marked as a King.
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This is wrong on all kinds of levels given Washington's intense disgust of Kings and his outright refusal to become something of a military dictator post Revolution.
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MLB Reverse Identities Series (Royals x Brewers 8/28)
Carolingian Steamroller replied to coco1997's topic in Concepts
That 30's Sox emblem works perfectly with that template. It's smooth and clean in a way that doesn't get in the way of the more outlandish elements of the design.- 81 replies
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MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
God I wish that Ballpark wasn't a nightmare to get to. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
@NicDB I didn't want to say that but I've personally found that to be quite correct. When I first started visiting Milwaukee I found it to be a smaller version of Chicago. There's definitely a lot of cultural exchange with Milwaukee residents coming South and Chicagoans going North. Lots of similar neighborhoods, sights, restaurants, etc. (I made my coffee this morning with beans from Collectivo.) As I'm sure you know, at least half the population of Chicago isn't fond of the Cubs either. There's also the commonality that Brewers and White Sox fans both tailgate before games. Though last time I tailgated we brought fried shrimp from Lawrence Fishery rather than grill. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
I think this is a long way of saying that the pandemic has meant that its been years since I've been to Milwaukee and thinking about the city is making me miss it. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
I'm sure enough stacks would blow that it would be visible from space. This is something that I find legitimately fascinating. Milwaukee is very different civically and culturally from other parts of Wisconsin, even other urban areas. It's closest to Madison, but the capital has its own thing going between the seat of governance and U of W. Milwaukee is very, very different from Green Bay. It's not quite as distinct from the rest of its home state as Chicago is (once you're past the outer suburbs Illinois turns into Kentucky), but it would be very cool if the Brewers leaned into Milwaukee's specific character. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
There's a lot of interesting stuff for the Brewers to go with: Destination for German Immigrants. Hot bed of Socialist governance in America. Industrial center for not just beer but also tools and motorcycles. Beautiful river and lakefronts. Magnificent, winged art museum. America's largest consumer of brandy. Not only macro breweries but widespread microbrew culture. Good times. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
The supply chain issues put us at an interesting point, or rather an throwback point. Uniform supply problems, sudden changes in manufacturers, stop gap measures, uneven attention across baseball were all pretty commonplace in the first century of baseball. Teams often relied on rinky dink operators in their home cities to provide the patches, numbers, and repairs that needed to happen. And that's even if they were largely all buying their base uniform from the Spaulding Company (see for example May & Halas for the Cubs). Those providers were subject to any number of problems. -
MLB 2022 Uniform/Logo Changes
Carolingian Steamroller replied to TheGiantsFan's topic in Sports Logo News
The plan was for them to use them as a regular alternate. Not sure what conspired to limit their use to three games. Hoping that changes and we get to them more this year. I know the Sox store sold out of City Connect jerseys in the span of hours. -
I've seen that but I'm not counting pre-season since that's often when changes get beta tested without becoming official.