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Gothamite

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  1. It's not pointless when players have to call out the fans for not supporting the team, and when the owner admits that they can't keep pouring money down the Tampa Bay drain. Are there any realistic relocation prospects now? No. But there could be soon, and if Tampa Bay doesn't start to support one of the best teams in baseball, the Rays will be first in line to jump.
  2. No, MLB basically didn't do any such thing. They were desperate to get Parc Labatt built. The team was in a downward spiral, attendance was terrible, and MLB tried to do what it had successfully done in other cities - boost attendance (and income) with a new ballpark. The Expos tried to get the ballpark built for nearly five years before MLB took over the club. And then a couple years after that to get a deal done to relocate to Washington. The Expos struggled that entire time. You can't lay the blame at Selig's feet. It just isn't true. He gave Montreal plenty of time to come up with a plan to keep them in Montreal.
  3. And I suspect that the fans in Montreal could be won over again with a competitive team and competent ownership. Which again cannot confidently be said of Tampa Bay.
  4. True, but a baseball team leading its division every day of the season won't draw there, either. We've seen that. A pennant-winning baseball team there won't draw. We've seen that, too. A baseball team fighting for its playoff life won't draw. Neither will a baseball team actually playing playoff games. It's looking pretty clear that no baseball team will draw in Tampa Bay.
  5. In hindsight, perhaps. But Montreal was really a no-go at the time. I'd like to see them step up now and take the Rays. They were a great market in need of a good team, and the Rays are a great team in need of a good market.
  6. TV Viewership is just one tiny part of the picture. By itself, it's not enough to outweigh the pathetic attendance. But now Tampa Bay defenders don't even have that tiny scrap to cling to.
  7. So what's the excuse for people not watching the Rays on television, either? They have to drive to Orlando for the remote? I hate to see any fans lose their team, but this is a failed market.
  8. Hell, why not Greenpoint or the Brooklyn Navy Yard? All good ideas, but no stadium plans in place. Until that day, the Rays stay in Tampa Bay.
  9. If there was an obvious place for them to relocate, they'd already have moved. The lack of an empty stadium elsewhere is the only argument for keeping them in St. Petersburg.
  10. And they have a great team. A fun team with great young players and at least one genuine superstar. They compete for the playoffs year after year, and yet people don't come to the ballpark. People don't even watch on television. People in the Tampa Bay area can't even fall back on the "give us a winning team and we'll support them" line.
  11. I do like. Specifically, I'd like to add it to my blog. PM me if you wouldnt mind me sharing. Never seen that one before.
  12. Seriously? They didn't learn from this mistake again? Hey, you leave a carcass lying about in the desert, and Reinsdorf will always circle back to try and pick a little more meat off the bones.
  13. The logo is brilliant, but I preferred the original home white and gray roads. I guess this is a good place for me to mention my absolute loathing and contempt for all the publicity seeking, self-aggrandizing 9/11 tributes, from the Mets' grab-bag caps to those stupid star-spangled gloves and boots. A solemn occasion deserves a somber, dignified tribute, not the attention-seeking antics of overgrown toddlers.
  14. Isn't there already a pointless thread for these?
  15. I'm not familiar, but the use of the word "scandal" indicates to me that such behavior wasn't exactly celebrated.
  16. Thanks for the kind words. I don't think the two situations are analogous at all. Unless there are players who are ordering extra rings specifically to sell on the secondary market. I don't begrudge anyone selling their own property. If Mac, or Aaron Rodgers, or the pro shop day shift manager wants to sell their own ring, that's their business. I'm only objecting to him setting up a little cottage industry selling first-run rings to people not entitled to order them on their own.
  17. In all other sports I agree with you (I don't want to hear anything about "winning" the 1997 NFC championship), but baseball is different. Because of the history, the historical nature of the leagues, winning a pennant is a major goal in and of itself. Not the ultimate goal, but still a very significant one, and one worthy of celebrating.
  18. I have no problem with using the share's benefits for your own personal beneft, information and the like. I have a huge problem with you selling those benefits to other people, even if you're not making a large profit.
  19. Come now. While you may not be passing others off as shareholders, you are facilitating the claim. It is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. And I never claimed you were making a profit. I've seen your ad before; I know you're looking to break even at best with a barter. Nor did I claim that you were violating any rules or bylaws. My choice of words was deliberate. While it may not be illegal or prohibited, I'm not sure that it's particularly cool to do so. We paid for our shares, and therefore the right to certain (precious few) benefits that accompany them. Selling those benefits to others just seems... wrong. But perhaps that's all just me. Frankly, I hesitated mentioning it in the past, and only through repeated observances thought it merited at least a quick note. I don't think I need mention it again.
  20. Mac, I'm not sure it's particularly cool to be selling shareholder rings.
  21. Shareholder rings start at $399 for White Lustrium® and cubic zirconia, and go up to $2400 for 10k white gold and diamonds.
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