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I think NBA was the first league to do this (85ish?) and I can maybe understand why.  Maybe.  Most of the teams outside of Boston and LA didn't have much visibility, so maybe they wanted it so that if you saw a photo of Indiana playing the Kings, you'd see the logo and know that those are NBA teams?  Maybe?

And with NFL, the logo coincided with the launch of Pro Line and more availability of authentic jerseys to fans (nothing like it is now, but I do recall when it started happening.)  So it was a way to 1)separate an authentic from a replica, since most authentics were still on mesh with printed numbers, and 2) if you saw someone walking down a street in relatively plain jersey (Raiders or something with just stripes) a random person would recognize that it's for an NFL team.  Again - maybe?

For NHL and MLB, they were simply hopping on the bandwagon because nowadays if it's not there, it looks off, and maybe like they're not as important as the other leagues.

As for MLB doing it for "visibility" purposes, while that may be their reasoning, I don't get it. The MLB "brand" isn't really a thing, and it's not like you don't see it on 80% of players, so I don't see any benefit to moving it.  There's no benefit to trying to make the MLB brand equal to the players' or clubs.  In fact, I think it could only hurt.

51 minutes ago, tigerslionspistonshabs said:

do you guys think they'd adopt the Thrashers moniker?

IMO it was among the worst "ends with s" name in major-league sports.  I don't care that it's a bird, few (if anyone) people outside of ornithologists (and maybe people in Georgia?) knows that, and probably either associate the term with skateboarding or heavy metal.

Wasn't a big fan of the logo either.  Looks like the type of overly spiked and shaded thing you'd see in the concepts forum.  Maybe fine for an AHL team, but not NHL.

47 minutes ago, gothedistance said:

 

Is 34 Ricky Williams? That's my favorite aqua jersey of the Dolphins.

It was mine too, but looking at it in context, it's too cartoony with all the unnecessary navy forced in.  The throwbacks, but with an aqua facemask, are now my favorite.

17 minutes ago, The_Admiral said:

You can't buy a house, you can't pay the mortgage, you can barely pay rent, it's insane what's going on up there. It's going to hurt a lot of Canadian cities, and the solution won't be to move the Calgary Flames to an office park in Alpharetta.

My first hand Canada knowledge is limited to a few friends that I correspond with on a semi-regular basis, and a few trips within the past year (granted, to Toronto and MTL areas, and not "other Canada"), but the issues I've heard about weren't described to me as anything different or worse than places like SF, NY and other American cities (with a less-visible, but I'm sure still existent homelss population and drug crisis), and what a lot of Americans are dealing with due to relatively-high interest rates and inflation.  Again - verrrrry small sample size that's not representative of an entire nation.  But is "quality of life" any worse than what people are dealing with in many North American and European cities?

When I hear "quality of life", I'm thinking of places I've been where there's literally mounds of dirt inside the house, people fishing in tattered rags, people dealing with occupation, etc.  I just thought it was a funny statement.

* I did see two protests against some proposed plan to privatize health care, which people did claim (probably rightly so) would have a "quality of life" impact.

4 hours ago, who do you think said:

But it seems like standard of living isn't great up there right now, by North American standards.

Yeah, Canadians are basically living in igloos and yurts, killing their food with their bare hands, and praying to various gods that their diseased children heal quickly before reaching the estimated Canadian life expectancy of 30 (since nobody can afford health care, unlike in the States where everything is affordable and everyone has access to care, nobody's defaulting on loans or living on streets or in subway stations, etc.)  Add in the wars, and yeah - the standard of living all the way up there is awful.

Damn, someone taking things a little personally.  An attack on the Chiefs isn’t an attack on you, dawg. 
 

Phillies have gone back and forth, seemingly at whim, between cuff trim being sewn around the end of the sleeve and the stripes being on a piece of elastic, like we're seeing with the Reds.  I've never felt the elastic looks good.  Among other reasons, the stripes are thicker.

The Brady "reports" certainly don't help his cause, especially claiming that spots have already been filmed for social media.  There's no way that wouldn't leak.

That being said, Paul is a legitimate journalist - not just some blogger or message-board poster, or rabble rouser.  I think it would be difficult to fool him, and while he doesn't have as much vested in game at this point given that he's retiring from UW in 3 months, I'm inclined to trust his instincts.

I think the situation last year was a good guy that unfortunately allowed his fandom to get him carried away without having the training / savviness that a tenured journalist would have.

There's no guarantee Paul is right - it's possible this guy is a great story teller and correctly anticipated all of Paul's vetting questions and had believable answers.  But the odds are in Paul's favor.

And honestly, while I'm not looking forward to the pants ,interchangable facemasks, or white helmets, nothing in the interview sounded unbelievable, with the exception of the "fans overwhelmingly disliked the blue helmet".  That part doesn't make sense.

It's "Fahn.... Dahn....Goh".

6 hours ago, GDAWG said:

A new trend when assembling coaching staffs: new random titles for coaches such as "Pass Game Coordinator" or "Run Game Coordinator" or "Pass Game Specialist" or "Run Game Specialist" for both sides of the ball.    There's still the usual "Assistant Head Coach" and also "Senior Offensive/Defensive Assistant"

 

Waiting for the day an NFL team hires a "Kicking Game Coordinator" even though they already have a special teams coach.  

Not really a new trend.  Even in early '00s, the Eagles had 'run game coordinator' (usually the OL coach), and a pass-game coordinator (or specialist... can't remember), usually the WR coach.

I think in part, the titles are like the BS "associate head coach" ones which are to make a title seem bigger than it is, since unless expressed permission is granted, coaches can only leave for "promotions".

Is "associate head coach" above "OC"?  LOL no, of course it's not, but "RB Coach / Asst Head coach" is enough to block a guy from being allowed to jump for a RB coach job, and maybe if it came down to it, it could be argued that "Associate Head Coach" is the #2 in command.

It's all nonsense.  

Spoiler alert - nothing is going to be done.

8 hours ago, illini1 said:

It doesn’t look the same to me. It says “kept the stitching style”. It doesn’t say it’s chainstitching. I think they might have come up with a way to mimic it. 
 

I hope I’m wrong. 

It's not the same style, but it's still chainstitching.  The Phillies (who's has always been on a patch) switched from the Cardinals former style to the Cardinals new style in 2019.  I think the old style looked better, but either way, it counts.

18 hours ago, Ferdinand Cesarano said:

Regarding the WNBA, a site called Sportsnaut says that the average salary is $147,745, and that the minimum is $64,000.  Business Insider puts the average at $113,295 and the minimum at $62,000.  Either way, that's enough to live on.  So for me that league qualifies as a major league.

I guess it depends on your definition of "live".  That's certainly fine in much of flyover land and in country areas far outside of cities, but not enough for any desirable area of a big city, and not enough for home ownership in many cities.

In addition to it being the highest-level and highest-paid level of competition that people can play, a true "global" major-league needs to have global appeal, while an American major-league needs to have national appeal.

MLB, NBA, NFL, obvious locks.

MLS - highest level of play in the US, I'd argue that it's achieved a pretty high level of national appeal (even if it pales in comparison to the previous 3), so I could see giving it that status (even if it's not even close to the top level globally).  Still have guys barely scraping by financially, so fair or not, many people aren't going to view it as "big league" if guys are making sub 100k salaries.  Hell - many people's threshold is much higher.

NHL - still higher than MLS, but mostly (IMO) because of its history in many of its markets in North America, and Gretzky kinda bringing national attention to it.  But it's still barely in the conversation with the first three.

NASCAR - forgetting whether it's even a sport or not, it completely fails the national appeal test.

It's more like 3+1+1, or 3+2.  If fractions aren't allowed, I'd say there's only a big 4, but MLS is very close to entering the chat with NHL.

To fire a coach after the SB when most of the popular candidates have already been hired would imply that they know exactly who they're targeting, and it's either a current position coach or one of the fired HCs that are out there.  The thing with the latter is that they'd possibly be one-and-done

Would Belichick take a DC gig?  Have also heard that Rex Ryan might want back in.  Staley would make sense, as he's not a shoo-in to get a HC job next year like Vrabel might be.

12 minutes ago, BadSeed84 said:

I'd argue regardless of what side one is on, they could find the joke funny.

If I had any power, I'd give it the belt.

Whoever made that decision for the Phillies can kiss my whole ass.

Whoever you are, :censored: the hell off.

Phillies appear to have ditched the chainstitching, at least from what I can tell. 

Just remember, the original Nike NBA jerseys tore all the time, and they got over it. 

4 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

First look at the chain stitching for the Cardinals. Not quite as good as direct embroidery, but I think they managed to pull it off quite nicely. The way the patch is applied is pretty subtle.

 

 

2 hours ago, McCall said:

That "outline" better at least be gray on the aways and not white.

That's basically how they changed the Phillies chainstitching in 2019.  It's too "perfect" for my liking.

They put a gray outline around the Phillies road script, but because it's twill, it stands out like a sore thumb.

(it's even more noticeable in game action.)

1 hour ago, infrared41 said:

My limited understanding of the situation is Kelce had a thing for Taylor Swift for a while before he finally decided to say it,  rolled the dice, and asked her out. Maybe I'm naive, but I don't believe there is anything more to it than that.

Im pretty sure it was actually Dick Vermeil that somehow fixed them up. He was doing something with the chiefs, his TV contacts knew hers, blah blah blah. 

Marshawn Lynch is the best. not sure how to embed. 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3PktAOrXrG/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=9ab7bad5-13f7-4298-8f63-782094d7d4b9

45 minutes ago, Cujo said:

 

HOLY JEEBUS IT'S FINALLY HAPPENINGGGG

2 hours ago, aawagner011 said:

This Twitter account has a few photos of the new Jays Nike Elite (on field authentic). The Blue Jay embroidery is definitely a downgrade. Several photos in the tweet, as well as a video that goes into more detail.

 

 

Patches lose their 3d detail 

I wonder if they're even sewn, or just heat-pressed.

1 hour ago, infrared41 said:

 

Tell me you've never seen Terry Bradshaw play without telling me you've never seen Terry Bradshaw play. I was there and he was much more than "Brad Johnson but on a team full of HOFers."

I'll defer to your judgement since I'm basing mine on watching a lot of old NFL Films and reading talking to my friends' families who lived through that era.  But I'm not old enough to have seen any of it first hand.  I still think we'd agree he's not in the same discussion with Mahomes, yeah?

I should probably be suspended for posting a Reddit link, but in here, people saying he was one of the original "gunslinger" types, who happened to be clutch in the post season, but equal parts great and horrible in the regular season when not being carried.  

Among the top guys for his era, but not overall in the convo for a top guy overall.  I'd love to know a modern comparison, and I'd love to know if, on another team that wasn't among the greatest dynasties in sports, how would he have done.

Is there a BBTV-era comparison (mid-80s on - basically starting with '85 Bears) you could make to help me visualize?