JQK Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 The Object: Create a new, original logoThe Rules: You have three days.WARNING! If your logo uses any part of any logo already in existence, you will be disqualified and banned from any further participation in the life of this contest.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Well, Syracuse has fallen as yet another college that has abandond their "offensive" name. And me, for one, am gonna fight back in my own special way.Your challenge, my friends, is to come up with an original Syracuse Orangemen logo, using what the name is supposed to represent, an Orangeman Indian.The Logo: Syracuse Orangemen - Indian logoThe winner of the poll will get a spiffy looking small banner to put in your sig, not to mention the admiration of your peers.You have until Saturday, 3:00pm EDT Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I hate to rain on your parade, but I'm fairly certain the name Orangemen didn't come from Native Americans (although we have had Chief Bill Orange and the Saltine Warrior as our mascots at various points in our history). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcap30 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 it came from William of Orange i believe who has his roots in Northern Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 it came from William of Orange i believe who has his roots in Northern Ireland Orangemen came from the native americans, and it was their mascot for many years. An Indian Orangeman statue is still standing on the campus Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Orangemen came from the native americans, and it was their mascot for many years. An Indian Orangeman statue is still standing on the campus We've had Native American mascots, but I'm pretty sure our name doesn't come from Native Americans.I'm still in the process of Googling this for more info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 From www.suathletics.com:The Saltine Warrior, an Indian figure named Big Chief Bill Orange, was born in a hoax published in The Syracuse Orange Peel, October 1931. The remains of this 16th century Onondagan chief were supposedly found in the excavations for the new women's gymnasium in 1928. In 1951, the Senior Class commissioned a statue of the Saltine Warrior to be placed near the discovery site. The students of the famous Croatian sculptor and SU faculty member, Ivan Mestrovic, competed for the honor. The winner was Louise Kaisch who arranged for a member of the Onondaga Nation to pose for her statue. The Saltine Warrior, cast in bronze, was moved several times, at last finding a resting place on the south-east corner of the quadrangle, next to the Shaffer Art Building. In the mid-1950's, the father of a Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity brother owned a cheerleading camp. He made a Saltine Warrior costume for his son to wear at SU football games. Thus began a nearly forty-year tradition of Lambda Chi brothers serving as SU's mascot. In 1990 however the University opened up the mascot traditions to the entire student body (Daily Orange, February 22, 1990).This is all i could find. Nothing about Syracuse having to do anything with William of Orange or Northern Ireland. Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffles Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Right, I know about the Saltine Warrior. I pass it every day on the way to class.But there's no mention of the name. Which is fine, I'm actually kinda sorry I brought it up 'cause it really doesn't matter in the context of the contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Let's just makes some logos... Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-O Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I of course will get in on this, l love the King's Court Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilTownMVP Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 ::yawn::Being politically incorrect for the sake of being politically incorrect has been played out. Dubya's thoughts on "terrorist" nations: "They never stop thinking of new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfannova Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the name changed mainly becasue of the conflict of having Orangemen and Orangewomen, so instead they'd just call both teams the Orange, not because of political correctness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJTank Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I would say that is Political Corectness too. Men and Women, so what its two different names for the Mens and Womens team. www.sportsecyclopedia.com For the best in sports history go to the Sports E-Cyclopedia at http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfannova Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Meh, it's just that its' harder to come up with one marketing identity and one set logo to lower costs if you need two logos, two shirts, two namethingies, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yh Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 And as an added kicker to the "grand prize" I will publicly praise any entry which features Rusty Staub dressed as an Indian Chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfannova Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 My entry. I think this is Kinda what you wanted..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yh Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 My entry. I think this is Kinda what you wanted..... I'd like to see a little more detail in the feather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 My entry. I think this is Kinda what you wanted..... jackass. Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQK Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 nudge......i--i mean BUMP!!! Stay Tuned Sports Podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcgd Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I haven't litterally laughed outloud on here until I saw "I'd like to see some more detail in the feather" Genius!I might take a stab at this. considering I had to avoid anything that had to do with Native Americans while at Carthage....peace,pc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoneranger Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Meanwhile, back at the ranch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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